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~~Jackinthebox~~

Quote: Drawing a Swastika is a Felony in NYS

This is absolutely ludicrous. A teenager has been charged with a FELONY for drawing on a sidewalk with baby oil. Now granted, he did draw a Swastika in a predominantly Jewish community, but in this day and age it is hardly surprising that a teenager might be desensitized to the meaning of the symbol, and detached from the history of it.

Read more: http://stationsixunderground.blogspot.co...z21tu3IBes

**WhenWillitEnd**

I could possibly understand defacing public property... but aggravated harassment?

**silversides**

It is unjust because it is over kill. This should be a minor offence.

~~Jackinthebox~~

WhenWillitEnd Wrote:

I could possibly understand defacing public property... but aggravated harassment?

It's not even defacing. He used friggin baby oil. Its like spitting on the sidewalk. $100 fine, or 20 hours community service at the library or something.

~~Jackinthebox~~

silversides Wrote:

It is unjust because it is over kill. This should be a minor offence.

Especially since he did not show clear intent to intimidate or harass anyone, and did no damage to property.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 111354 07-28-2012 10:09 AM

strange

~~Jackinthebox~~

LoP Guest Wrote:

strange

Police state.

I suppose I could get off on the conspiracy that Jews passed this law, and talk about how Jews think they are special. Which to some extent I do see that around here. There is a highway dedicated to Jewish veterans of war. I take offense to that, having a lot of veterans in my family who never once thought about involving their religious beliefs with their service.

But at the end of the day this is just one more example of the government being completely out of control and eating itself alive.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 101624 07-28-2012 10:31 AM

Jackinthebox Wrote:

Quote: Drawing a Swastika is a Felony in NYS

This is absolutely ludicrous. A teenager has been charged with a FELONY for drawing on a sidewalk with baby oil. Now granted, he did draw a Swastika in a predominantly Jewish community, but in this day and age it is hardly surprising that a teenager might be desensitized to the meaning of the symbol, and detached from the history of it.

Read more: http://stationsixunderground.blogspot.co...z21tu3IBes

oh, these people aren't exactly good neighbors. the wiki should be enough to give you the flavor of the place, but i can dig up more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiryas_Joel,_New_York

**JF Priest** · **JF Priest** Subscriber User ID: 47416 07-28-2012 10:33 AM **Posts: 23,839**

Jackinthebox Wrote:

WhenWillitEnd Wrote:
I could possibly understand defacing public property... but aggravated harassment?

It's not even defacing. He used friggin baby oil. Its like spitting on the sidewalk. $100 fine, or 20 hours community service at the library or something.

**We'll be back !** · (This post was last modified: 07-28-2012 10:51 AM by We'll be back !.)

That symbol was a symbol with a totally different meaning long before the Nazis used it !

The swastika has an extensive history. It was used at least 5,000 years before Adolf Hitler designed the Nazi flag. The word swastika comes from the Sanskrit svastika, which means “good fortune” or “well-being." The motif (a hooked cross) appears to have first been used in Neolithic Eurasia, perhaps representing the movement of the sun through the sky. To this day it is a sacred symbol in Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, and Odinism. It is a common sight on temples or houses in India or Indonesia. Swastikas also have an ancient history in Europe, appearing on artifacts from pre-Christian European cultures.

The symbol experienced a resurgence in the late nineteenth century, following extensive archeological work such as that of the famous archeologist Heinrich Schliemann. Schliemann discovered the hooked cross on the site of ancient Troy. He connected it with similar shapes found on pottery in Germany and speculated that it was a “significant religious symbol of our remote ancestors.”

In the beginning of the twentieth century the swastika was widely used in Europe. It had numerous meanings, the most common being a symbol of good luck and auspiciousness. However, the work of Schliemann soon was taken up by völkisch movements, for whom the swastika was a symbol of “Aryan identity” and German nationalist pride

This conjecture of Aryan cultural descent of the German people is likely one of the main reasons why the Nazi party formally adopted the swastika or Hakenkreuz (Ger., hooked cross) as its symbol in 1920.

The Nazi party, however, was not the only party to use the swastika in Germany. After World War I, a number of far-right nationalist movements adopted the swastika. As a symbol, it became associated with the idea of a racially “pure” state. By the time the Nazis gained control of Germany, the connotations of the swastika had forever changed.

In Mein Kampf, Adolf Hitler wrote: “I myself, meanwhile, after innumerable attempts, had laid down a final form; a flag with a red background, a white disk, and a black swastika in the middle. After long trials I also found a definite proportion between the size of the flag and the size of the white disk, as well as the shape and thickness of the swastika.”

The swastika would become the most recognizable icon of Nazi propaganda, appearing on the flag referred to by Hitler in Mein Kampf as well as on election posters, arm bands, medallions, and badges for military and other organizations. A potent symbol intended to elicit pride among Aryans, the swastika also struck terror into Jews and others deemed enemies of Nazi Germany.

Despite its origins, the swastika has become so widely associated with Nazi Germany that contemporary uses frequently incite controversy.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 111151 07-28-2012 10:37 AM

People may think jews are highly sensitive to the swastika because of the Nazis, but that is not the case! The swastika was illegal in Germany before the Nazis even existed! All throughout history the jews have hated the swastika! That's because the swastika is a sacred symbol that repels evil!

**Blue Waffle**

inb4?

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 111093 07-28-2012 11:03 AM

They have hate laws in NYC. Friend of yours?

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 111358 07-28-2012 11:13 AM

We all know who pulls the strings in America.
That punk is lucky the cop didn't shoot him

**Upgrayedd**

LoP Guest Wrote:

We all know who pulls the strings in America.
That punk is lucky the cop didn't shoot him

Word