America was founded by Protestants, fleeing Catholic controlled
monarchies in England.

The Catholic church that organized during the Spanish Inquisition,
by the same men who'd hunted down and murdered Christ's disciples
after Christ himself was crucified, locked down everything, including
the right to worship except as a Catholic. Tribute was extracted.

The movement begun by the Magna Carta and then the work of
Martin Luther to free the writings created by Christ's peers,
as well as the rest of the records of expectancy of the birth of
Christ prior to the inception of the Catholic church, was fulfilled by
the stampede by anti-Catholics to North America.

Conveniently for settlers, the Spaniards had shown up decades
prior, and spread disease that wiped out 9 out of every 10
of the indigenous inhabitants, after forcing gold out of the south
Americans till they were so sick of it they melted some and poured
it down the throat of their dear leader, Cortez, (too late to keep
his men's seed from spilling into the South American continent,
as well as African slaves and their Arab traders doing brisk trade
along the coastlines with the Conquistadores).

To argue about the religion of the founding fathers, is ridiculous.
They were to a man, anti Catholic and anti monarchy; hence the horrendous
treatment of the Catholic Irish and their lace curtains and
drinking when 2 million of them
flooded the colonies, during the potato famine.

The recognition of God as our Creator was inherent in the founders,
obviously; read the founding documents. as was the intention to
establish liberty from monarchy and enforced worship in the
Catholic church that went with it, known then as the fruit of the murderous
rampage through Spain at inception.

Our lives today would stun them, comparable only to Biblical descriptions
of Sodom, Gomorah or Babylon (as presented by the media) and as lived
in cities.

I really wish some of you could go back in time to those days and
experience the culture, the faith, and the founding of the United States
of America, to see the sacrifices made and the heroism of the day,
for liberty.

Janus  Wrote:

America was founded by Protestants, fleeing Catholic controlled
monarchies in England.

The Catholic church that organized during the Spanish Inquisition,
by the same men who'd hunted down and murdered Christ's disciples
after Christ himself was crucified, locked down everything, including
the right to worship except as a Catholic. Tribute was extracted.

The movement begun by the Magna Carta and then the work of
Martin Luther to free the writings created by Christ's peers,
as well as the rest of the records of expectancy of the birth of
Christ prior to the inception of the Catholic church, was fulfilled by
the stampede by anti-Catholics to North America.

Conveniently for settlers, the Spaniards had shown up decades
prior, and spread disease that wiped out 9 out of every 10
of the indigenous inhabitants, after forcing gold out of the south
Americans till they were so sick of it they melted some and poured
it down the throat of their dear leader, Cortez, (too late to keep
his men's seed from spilling into the South American continent,
as well as African slaves and their Arab traders doing brisk trade
along the coastlines with the Conquistadores).

To argue about the religion of the founding fathers, is ridiculous.
They were to a man, anti Catholic and anti monarchy; hence the horrendous
treatment of the Catholic Irish and their lace curtains and
drinking when 2 million of them
flooded the colonies, during the potato famine.

The recognition of God as our Creator was inherent in the founders,
obviously; read the founding documents. as was the intention to
establish liberty from monarchy and enforced worship in the
Catholic church that went with it, known then as the fruit of the murderous
rampage through Spain at inception.

Our lives today would stun them, comparable only to Biblical descriptions
of Sodom, Gomorah or Babylon (as presented by the media) and as lived
in cities.

I really wish some of you could go back in time to those days and
experience the culture, the faith, and the founding of the United States
of America, to see the sacrifices made and the heroism of the day,
for liberty.

Postman thoroughly pwned. Well said, Janus.

http://greatseal.com/committees/firstcomm/reverse.html

Great thread, Dr P, and, I concur, the founders of America were not Christian, they were irreligious.

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DrPissant, trying valiantly to get another paying gig as a paid forum shill.

f*ck off, you cut and paste waste of bandwidth. You've never had an original idea in your narrow mind.

Cosmah  Wrote:

Great thread, Dr P, and, I concur, the founders of America were not Christian, they were irreligious.

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Oxymoron.

LoP Guest  Wrote:

DrPissant, trying valiantly to get another paying gig as a paid forum shill.

f*ck off, you cut and paste waste of bandwidth. You've never had an original idea in your narrow mind.

Anger
Mean-spiritedness
Rudeness
Misrepresentation
Simplistic debating skills

I'd love to hear what original thoughts you come up with.

diggerbanks  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

DrPissant, trying valiantly to get another paying gig as a paid forum shill.

f*ck off, you cut and paste waste of bandwidth. You've never had an original idea in your narrow mind.

Anger
Mean-spiritedness
Rudeness
Misrepresentation
Simplistic debating skills

I'd love to hear what original thoughts you come up with.

Please explain your thoughts on why you believe a proud outspoken debunker like postman that has zero belief in the lunatic fringe would spend an inordinate amount of time on various forums and newsgroups doing nothing more than mocking others for their curiosity and beliefs?

One doesn't debate with postman because he's not here to debate; he's here to shill and kill threads. His mind isn't open and he's not respectful to anyone else's views. Your accusations are aimed in the wrong direction.