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The Illusion of Choice? Ron Paul
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CountFapula Bringin' Sexy Back! User ID: 51210 04-29-2012 06:40 PM
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RE: The Illusion of Choice? Ron Paul
Astrochik Wrote:The force is with Ron Paul - the force of the people in this pivotal time. Nothing is going to stop it.
see i WANT to believe that's true. BUT at this time i dont feel that anyone will save us but us. not ron paul. no clif high, or ashyane bean. no one. not even jesus the galactic federation of reptoids.
only we can take back our government me feels. and it won't be through a candidate. i truly feel that they are straw men. even paul.
every anti-hero needs his hero.
while the hidden hand moves all.
signed,
American
It's all an act What's your part?
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Luvapottamus Registered User User ID: 82349 04-29-2012 06:51 PM
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RE: The Illusion of Choice? Ron Paul
Ron Paul isn't the enemy of big business.
The assassination threat comes from Globalists and hard core fascists.
Meaning the City of London, and their domestic arm, Wall Street.
Also he's not liked by the MIC.
He's the real deal. He's not going to put a chicken in every pot, but he will do enough to defeat totalitarianism, that he's got my support!
There is no such thing as sovereign debt. End the FED, bring back Greenbacks.
Wall Street Sales Tax http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb5OQUElilo
United Front Against Austerity
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The Evil AC I am not a number!!! User ID: 666 04-29-2012 06:55 PM
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RE: The Illusion of Choice? Ron Paul
Luvapottamus Wrote:Ron Paul isn't the enemy of big business.
The assassination threat comes from Globalists and hard core fascists.
Meaning the City of London, and their domestic arm, Wall Street.
Also he's not liked by the MIC.
He's the real deal. He's not going to put a chicken in every pot, but he will do enough to defeat totalitarianism, that he's got my support!
changeing totalitarianism with neo-feudalism doesnt make it better.
Ron Paul isnt the answer to any question, just a bad joke that is taken to serious by people,cause there are only clowns you can elect.
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 93512 04-29-2012 07:02 PM
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RE: The Illusion of Choice? Ron Paul
PizzaPhace Wrote:Astrochik Wrote:The force is with Ron Paul - the force of the people in this pivotal time. Nothing is going to stop it.
see i WANT to believe that's true. BUT at this time i dont feel that anyone will save us but us. not ron paul. no clif high, or ashyane bean. no one. not even jesus the galactic federation of reptoids.
only we can take back our government me feels. and it won't be through a candidate. i truly feel that they are straw men. even paul.
every anti-hero needs his hero.
while the hidden hand moves all.
signed,
American
See, that's the common misconception. It's not just Ron Paul. It's an idea and an ideal. It's a movement and it grows daily.
Thanks to what Ron Paul has been doing people have been waking up and looking around. Not many are liking what they are seeing and are starting to become active once again.
Whether it's fighting against the upcoming ban on firearms or raw foods or vote fraud due to machine counting people are taking on a variety of issues and the numbers grow.
And it's not just at the POTUS level either. It's happening locally. People pushing for openly counted paper ballots. People petitioning and sueing to ensure their Rights to choose for themselves. People are running for political offices based upon ideals instead of establishment party lines.
And the numbers grow.
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The Evil AC I am not a number!!! User ID: 666 04-29-2012 07:03 PM
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RE: The Illusion of Choice? Ron Paul
LoP Guest Wrote:PizzaPhace Wrote:Astrochik Wrote:The force is with Ron Paul - the force of the people in this pivotal time. Nothing is going to stop it.
see i WANT to believe that's true. BUT at this time i dont feel that anyone will save us but us. not ron paul. no clif high, or ashyane bean. no one. not even jesus the galactic federation of reptoids.
only we can take back our government me feels. and it won't be through a candidate. i truly feel that they are straw men. even paul.
every anti-hero needs his hero.
while the hidden hand moves all.
signed,
American
See, that's the common misconception. It's not just Ron Paul. It's an idea and an ideal. It's a movement and it grows daily.
Thanks to what Ron Paul has been doing people have been waking up and looking around. Not many are liking what they are seeing and are starting to become active once again.
Whether it's fighting against the upcoming ban on firearms or raw foods or vote fraud due to machine counting people are taking on a variety of issues and the numbers grow.
And it's not just at the POTUS level either. It's happening locally. People pushing for openly counted paper ballots. People petitioning and sueing to ensure their Rights to choose for themselves. People are running for political offices based upon ideals instead of establishment party lines.
And the numbers grow.
Do you have this mental vomit from ronpaul2012.com? cause it sounds like Paul propaganda
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freebyrd parable fucking genius! User ID: 69169 04-29-2012 07:06 PM
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RE: The Illusion of Choice? Ron Paul
PizzaPhace Wrote:Controlled opposition? How does he get away with his consistent fighting the system withouot ending up on the bad side of peoples list? Is he controlled opposition? A clever actor? Genuine?
Hardcore fans, conpiracy theories and the like are welcome to help figure this out.
Personally I think it's an illusion of choice. Like telling a kid who doesn't want to eat his veggies "Look only have to eat one Tommy. Your eggplant, your raw tomato or your boiled lettuce. But I'll let you choose the one you want"

well if i wanted to go way overboard on conspiracy i would say something like,
raul will split votes to ensure that obama gets a second term and rand paul will run in 2016
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Luvapottamus Registered User User ID: 82349 04-29-2012 07:07 PM
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RE: The Illusion of Choice? Ron Paul
The Evil AC Wrote:Luvapottamus Wrote:Ron Paul isn't the enemy of big business.
The assassination threat comes from Globalists and hard core fascists.
Meaning the City of London, and their domestic arm, Wall Street.
Also he's not liked by the MIC.
He's the real deal. He's not going to put a chicken in every pot, but he will do enough to defeat totalitarianism, that he's got my support!
changeing totalitarianism with neo-feudalism doesnt make it better.
Ron Paul isnt the answer to any question, just a bad joke that is taken to serious by people,cause there are only clowns you can elect.
Bill Still is closer aligned to my politics.
But Ron is a contender, and can do a lot of good if elected.
Just his candidacy has done a lot of good.
It's unseated a lot of unprincipled political hacks in the republican apparatus.
Too bad the democrats don't have a Ron Paul.
There is no such thing as sovereign debt. End the FED, bring back Greenbacks.
Wall Street Sales Tax http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb5OQUElilo
United Front Against Austerity
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Up YOURS Govt! Registered User User ID: 84321 04-29-2012 07:08 PM
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RE: The Illusion of Choice? Ron Paul
PizzaPhace Wrote:Controlled opposition? How does he get away with his consistent fighting the system withouot ending up on the bad side of peoples list? Is he controlled opposition? A clever actor? Genuine?
Hardcore fans, conpiracy theories and the like are welcome to help figure this out.
Personally I think it's an illusion of choice. Like telling a kid who doesn't want to eat his veggies "Look only have to eat one Tommy. Your eggplant, your raw tomato or your boiled lettuce. But I'll let you choose the one you want"

You may be right, and you may be wrong. However, my question is to you, is why all the media blackout on the guy? Why has delagations and caucuses fraud been caught on camera against Ron Paul? Why are Combat Veterans including myself his largest supporters? The sad thing is, he might be the real deal but we as Amerians are so used to being f*cked by smooth talking politicians, and are defensive of any one said politician who might actually have the answers we are looking for because we constanty get tricked. There lies the problem.
The Government's most effective weapon is the mainstream media: more dangerous than standing armies, more deadlier than nuclear arsenals.
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CountFapula Bringin' Sexy Back! User ID: 51210 04-29-2012 07:11 PM
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RE: The Illusion of Choice? Ron Paul
Up YOURS Govt! Wrote:PizzaPhace Wrote:Controlled opposition? How does he get away with his consistent fighting the system withouot ending up on the bad side of peoples list? Is he controlled opposition? A clever actor? Genuine?
Hardcore fans, conpiracy theories and the like are welcome to help figure this out.
Personally I think it's an illusion of choice. Like telling a kid who doesn't want to eat his veggies "Look only have to eat one Tommy. Your eggplant, your raw tomato or your boiled lettuce. But I'll let you choose the one you want"

You may be right, and you may be wrong. However, my question is to you, is why all the media blackout on the guy? Why has delagations and caucuses fraud been caught on camera against Ron Paul? Why are Combat Veterans including myself his largest supporters? The sad thing is, he might be the real deal but we as Amerians are so used to being f*cked by smooth talking politicians, and are defensive of any one said politician who might actually have the answers we are looking for because we constanty get tricked. There lies the problem.
your talkin to a vet so i completely understand your position. in fact many of my brothers in the USMC say the same thing.
i've noticed i've gotten on the "don't look for salvation.... BRING IT" tip lately.
and your end of the post nails it. we are always being tricked. same old song. but people expect a different outcome. they have a word for that you know....
It's all an act What's your part?
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 93512 04-29-2012 07:14 PM
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RE: The Illusion of Choice? Ron Paul
The Evil AC Wrote:LoP Guest Wrote:PizzaPhace Wrote:see i WANT to believe that's true. BUT at this time i dont feel that anyone will save us but us. not ron paul. no clif high, or ashyane bean. no one. not even jesus the galactic federation of reptoids.
only we can take back our government me feels. and it won't be through a candidate. i truly feel that they are straw men. even paul.
every anti-hero needs his hero.
while the hidden hand moves all.
signed,
American
See, that's the common misconception. It's not just Ron Paul. It's an idea and an ideal. It's a movement and it grows daily.
Thanks to what Ron Paul has been doing people have been waking up and looking around. Not many are liking what they are seeing and are starting to become active once again.
Whether it's fighting against the upcoming ban on firearms or raw foods or vote fraud due to machine counting people are taking on a variety of issues and the numbers grow.
And it's not just at the POTUS level either. It's happening locally. People pushing for openly counted paper ballots. People petitioning and sueing to ensure their Rights to choose for themselves. People are running for political offices based upon ideals instead of establishment party lines.
And the numbers grow.
Do you have this mental vomit from ronpaul2012.com? cause it sounds like Paul propaganda
I get that so called mental vomit from actually being active in the honest elections movement. Openly counted paper ballots with verified results that everyone can access. I get that so called mental vomit from being a gun rights activist and an activist for healthy foods and vitamins.
I'm an idealist.
I believe that I know what's best for me and it's not McGMO burgers and chemically tainted water. I believe that we can have actual elections in this country that are open and honest instead of hackable and unverifiable. I believe I have the right to enjoy activities without having a government paper saying I can enjoy that activity or having federal storm troopers bash in my door because some stooge thousands of miles away is butt hurt over something.
Yes I support Ron Paul but I was active in all of the above before Ron showed up and I'll be active with all of the above long after Ron leaves the scene.
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MrDeacon Registered User User ID: 66098 04-29-2012 07:15 PM
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RE: The Illusion of Choice? Ron Paul
I get that people doubt the system. I'm really critical of it aswell. I've also been taught not believe everything I perceive.
Ron Paul is the only politician who seems sincere, as he is looking out for all people, the small man the big man whatever.
At this point to not vote Ron Paul could be compaired to not taking a million bucks if it was offered.
Would much change if he was elected? I think not dramasticly, but it is a start. By showing TPTB that we do indeed have a choice and that choice is common sense instead of sensationlistic politics.

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.
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goldenfleeced Registered User User ID: 91884 04-29-2012 07:18 PM
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RE: The Illusion of Choice? Ron Paul
PizzaPhace Wrote:Up YOURS Govt! Wrote:PizzaPhace Wrote:Controlled opposition? How does he get away with his consistent fighting the system withouot ending up on the bad side of peoples list? Is he controlled opposition? A clever actor? Genuine?
Hardcore fans, conpiracy theories and the like are welcome to help figure this out.
Personally I think it's an illusion of choice. Like telling a kid who doesn't want to eat his veggies "Look only have to eat one Tommy. Your eggplant, your raw tomato or your boiled lettuce. But I'll let you choose the one you want"

You may be right, and you may be wrong. However, my question is to you, is why all the media blackout on the guy? Why has delagations and caucuses fraud been caught on camera against Ron Paul? Why are Combat Veterans including myself his largest supporters? The sad thing is, he might be the real deal but we as Amerians are so used to being f*cked by smooth talking politicians, and are defensive of any one said politician who might actually have the answers we are looking for because we constanty get tricked. There lies the problem.
your talkin to a vet so i completely understand your position. in fact many of my brothers in the USMC say the same thing.
i've noticed i've gotten on the "don't look for salvation.... BRING IT" tip lately.
and your end of the post nails it. we are always being tricked. same old song. but people expect a different outcome. they have a word for that you know....
Love, you mean...?
Have a smilie... you're a vet. You deserve a better 'gig,' right?
I bet the USMC uses your avatar for recruiting... you're that good... and after all... who doesn't LOVE pizza?
...what is this which is written in the Tanakh, `'The very rock which the builders rejected has become the cornerstone’?
The full soul loatheth an honeycomb; but to the hungry soul every bitter thing is sweet... - Proverbs 27:7 FELIX INFORTUNIUM...
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 93512 04-29-2012 07:22 PM
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RE: The Illusion of Choice? Ron Paul
LoP Guest Wrote:The Evil AC Wrote:LoP Guest Wrote:See, that's the common misconception. It's not just Ron Paul. It's an idea and an ideal. It's a movement and it grows daily.
Thanks to what Ron Paul has been doing people have been waking up and looking around. Not many are liking what they are seeing and are starting to become active once again.
Whether it's fighting against the upcoming ban on firearms or raw foods or vote fraud due to machine counting people are taking on a variety of issues and the numbers grow.
And it's not just at the POTUS level either. It's happening locally. People pushing for openly counted paper ballots. People petitioning and sueing to ensure their Rights to choose for themselves. People are running for political offices based upon ideals instead of establishment party lines.
And the numbers grow.
Do you have this mental vomit from ronpaul2012.com? cause it sounds like Paul propaganda
I get that so called mental vomit from actually being active in the honest elections movement. Openly counted paper ballots with verified results that everyone can access. I get that so called mental vomit from being a gun rights activist and an activist for healthy foods and vitamins.
I'm an idealist.
I believe that I know what's best for me and it's not McGMO burgers and chemically tainted water. I believe that we can have actual elections in this country that are open and honest instead of hackable and unverifiable. I believe I have the right to enjoy activities without having a government paper saying I can enjoy that activity or having federal storm troopers bash in my door because some stooge thousands of miles away is butt hurt over something.
Yes I support Ron Paul but I was active in all of the above before Ron showed up and I'll be active with all of the above long after Ron leaves the scene.
Oh and just for clarity's sake. Marine Corp veteran. Father and grandfather.
I'd doing what I'm doing for their sake as well as my own. I want them to live free and healthy. I want them to have honest politicians that were honestly elected. I want them to be able to go down to the firing range without having 30 pieces of paper from varied government agencies saying it's ok for them to go down to the range and fire a few rounds down the lanes. I want them to have access to organically grown food and healthy vitamins. I want them to have a decent education that emphasizes critical thinking instead of government propaganda and 'fuzzy math' such as the government uses on it's book keeping.
Call me a radical if you will but that's how I feel about it.
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 71550 04-29-2012 07:27 PM
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RE: The Illusion of Choice? Ron Paul
It's the H.O.P.E. program.
Obama for the left
Ron for the right
left
right
See the difference?
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Luvapottamus Registered User User ID: 82349 04-29-2012 07:28 PM
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RE: The Illusion of Choice? Ron Paul
PizzaPhace Wrote:Up YOURS Govt! Wrote:PizzaPhace Wrote:Controlled opposition? How does he get away with his consistent fighting the system withouot ending up on the bad side of peoples list? Is he controlled opposition? A clever actor? Genuine?
Hardcore fans, conpiracy theories and the like are welcome to help figure this out.
Personally I think it's an illusion of choice. Like telling a kid who doesn't want to eat his veggies "Look only have to eat one Tommy. Your eggplant, your raw tomato or your boiled lettuce. But I'll let you choose the one you want"

You may be right, and you may be wrong. However, my question is to you, is why all the media blackout on the guy? Why has delagations and caucuses fraud been caught on camera against Ron Paul? Why are Combat Veterans including myself his largest supporters? The sad thing is, he might be the real deal but we as Amerians are so used to being f*cked by smooth talking politicians, and are defensive of any one said politician who might actually have the answers we are looking for because we constanty get tricked. There lies the problem.
your talkin to a vet so i completely understand your position. in fact many of my brothers in the USMC say the same thing.
i've noticed i've gotten on the "don't look for salvation.... BRING IT" tip lately.
and your end of the post nails it. we are always being tricked. same old song. but people expect a different outcome. they have a word for that you know....
No president is going to fix everything. No president is going to fix everything he has the constitutional authority to fix either.
But Ron can do a good job doing what he thinks is best.
We need to replace almost the entire house and senate as well. And replace the replacements until we get a good batch in there.
With the voting machine situation, we may be left with no option other than a general strike or self-defense if things continue on as they are trending.
But we are many they are few. Nobody is going to successfully install hard core Hitler style fascism in this country.
And if they do, it won't last long.
So do what you can, when you can.
Voting only takes about ten minutes in my precinct.
That leaves a little time for activism.
There is no such thing as sovereign debt. End the FED, bring back Greenbacks.
Wall Street Sales Tax http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb5OQUElilo
United Front Against Austerity
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