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The age(s) that we were/are said to be in are incorrect. For the age referred to is where the rays are hitting and not where the sun actually is located. By looking at the zodiacal band, just look at the sign across from the one we are said to be in.

Following the formula below, we are in Virgo and going into Leo.This list shows in italics the correct sign of understanding and the sign in parentheses is the sign we are incorrectly said to be in. I put in bold the age that we are in and the one we about to going into.

This is the order from the earliest known age to the one coming up in a few months:

Aquarius (Leo), Capricorn (Cancer), Sagittarius (Gemini), Scorpio (Taurus), Libra (Aries), Virgo (Pisces), Leo (Aquarius)

So, we are in the Age of Virgo (Virgin/Material/Dark Age) and going into the Age of Leo (Maturity/Spiritual/Golden Age)!

This has nothing to do with personal horoscopes. This is intended only for metaphorical purposes with regards to ages.

Sources:

Secret Teaching of All Ages - Manly P. Hall

Zodiac Wheel

"There are two distinct systems of astrological philosophy. One of them, the Ptolemaic, is geocentric: the earth is considered the center of the solar system, around which the sun, moon, and planets revolve. Astronomically, the geocentric system is incorrect; but for thousands of years it has proved its accuracy when applied to the material nature of earthly things. A careful consideration of the writings of the great occultists and a study of their diagrams reveal the fact that many of them were acquainted with another method of arranging the heavenly bodies.

The other system of astrological philosophy is called the heliocentric. This posits the sun in the center of the solar system, where it naturally belongs, with the planets and their moons revolving about it. The great difficulty, however, with the heliocentric system is that, being comparatively new, there has not been sufficient time to experiment successfully and catalogue the effects of its various aspects and relationships. Geocentric astrology, as its name implies, is confined to the earthy side of nature, while heliocentric astrology may be used to analyze the higher intellectual and spiritual faculties of man.

The important point to be remembered is that when the sun was said to be in a certain sign of the zodiac, the ancients really meant that the sun occupied the opposite sign and cast its long ray into the house in which they enthroned it. Therefore, when it is said that the sun is in Taurus, it means (astronomically) that the sun is in the sign opposite to Taurus, which is Scorpio. This resulted in two distinct schools of philosophy: one geocentric and exoteric, the other heliocentric and esoteric. While the ignorant multitudes worshiped the house of the sun’s reflection, which in the case described would be the Bull, the wise revered the house of the sun’s actual dwelling, which would be the Scorpion, or the Serpent,the symbol of the concealed spiritual mystery.

The sun is often symbolized with its rays in the form of a shaggy mane. Concerning the Masonic significance of Leo, Robert Hewitt Brown, 32°, has written:

“On the 21st of June, when the sun arrives at the summer solstice, the constellation Leo – being but 30° in advance of the sun – appears to be leading the way, and to aid by his powerful paw in lifting the sun up to the summit of the zodiacal arch. (...) This visible connection between the constellation Leo and the return of the sun to his place of power and glory, at the summit of the Royal Arch of heaven, was the principal reason why that constellation was held in such high esteem and reverence by the ancients. The astrologers distinguished Leo as the ‘sole house of the sun,’ and taught that the world was created when the sun was in that sign. ‘The lion was adored in the East and the West by the Egyptians and the Mexicans. The chief Druid of Britain was styled a lion.’” (Stellar Theology and Masonic Astronomy.)

When the Aquarian Age is thoroughly established, the sun will be in Leo, as will be noted from the explanation previously given in this chapter regarding the distinction between geocentric and heliocentric astrology. Then, indeed, will the secret religions of the world include
once more the raising to initiation by the Grip of the Lion’s Paw. (Lazarus will come forth.)" - Manly P. Hall; Zodiac and Its Signs, The Secret Teachings of All Ages

Occult Anatomy of Man - Manly P. Hall

"It is well for us also to consider the "grip of the lion's paw", one of the world's oldest symbols of initiation, in ancient times the neophyte on his way through the mysteries of Egypt's temples was finally buried in a great stone coffer for the dead, later to be raised to life again by the master initiate in his robes of blue and gold. When the candidate was thus raised, the grand master wore upon his arm and hand the paw of a lion as a glove, and it was said of the newly raised disciple that he had been brought to life by the "grip of the lion's paw." The Hebrew letter yod (which issued in the center of the triangle and is sometimes symbol of spirit because of its flame-like appearance) means, according to the cabalist, a hand that is stretched forth. We understand this to symbolize the sun, spirit in man which is said to be enthroned in the sign of Leo, the lion of Judah. And as the fruits of the fields and the seedlings are grown and developed through the sun's rays, so it is said that the crystallization of man is broken up and dispelled by the light of the spiritual sun which raises the dead with its power and liberates the latencies of life. The spirit in man, with its eyes that see in the dark, is ever striving to lift the lower side of his own nature to union with itself. When the lower man is thus raised from materiality by the higher ideals which unfold within his own being, it is said that the spirit of light and truth has raised the candidate for initiation by the "grip of the lion's paw."" - Manly P. Hall, Occult Anatomy of Man

Post: #2

Very interesting.

Post: #3

Ahriman  Wrote:

Very interesting.

You seem to like all my posts lol Thanks

Post: #4

Interesting maybe, but wrong. The symbol of the last 2000 years has been the fish. Before that, the Ram, sheep, or lamb. Before that, the bull or the cow. In art, sculpture, and mythology.

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cool i'm a leo

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mstra  Wrote:

Interesting maybe, but wrong. The symbol of the last 2000 years has been the fish. Before that, the Ram, sheep, or lamb. Before that, the bull or the cow. In art, sculpture, and mythology.

True, I'm not buying this either. I'd park this in the same spot with the Ophiuchus nonsense.

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Interesting, indeed. So if I am a Taurus with Scorpio rising, does that mean I am somewhere in between? I'm confused...

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What if it's both Leo & Aquarius, a dual reign, if y0u want to call it that?

http://www.quantumyoga.org/Riddle%20of%2...Sphinx.htm

"The Figure of the Sphinx is a reference to the signs of Leo the Lion, and Aquarius the Man (or Woman) which are opposite each other in the Zodiac."

Ribbit

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Ghenghy  Wrote:

mstra  Wrote:

Interesting maybe, but wrong. The symbol of the last 2000 years has been the fish. Before that, the Ram, sheep, or lamb. Before that, the bull or the cow. In art, sculpture, and mythology.

True, I'm not buying this either. I'd park this in the same spot with the Ophiuchus nonsense.

I'm not buying we're going into Leo, but it's the opposite sign therefore has influence.

The chinese have the dragon in the middle of their zodiac as a fulcurm point. That's what Ophiuchus is. Serpens is around the virgo and scorpio constellations that point to the galactic center.

Indeed to put it within the twelve is ohfukus.

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MPH2012  Wrote:

Ahriman  Wrote:

Very interesting.

You seem to like all my posts lol Thanks

I'm kinda into this kind of nonsense and I like Manly P Hall.

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But that would destroy an entire 60's musical.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_zAUrOq-Dc

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This has nothing to do with personal horoscopes. This is intended only for metaphorical purposes with regards to ages. The Serpent Barrier (13th sign-Ophiuchus) has nothing to do with this either. That sign sign doesn't fit into the zodiacal age sequence. Call it whatever you want, it makes sense.

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barbsat  Wrote:

But that would destroy an entire 60's musical.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_zAUrOq-Dc

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MPH2012  Wrote:

This has [b]nothing to do with personal horoscopes. This is intended only for metaphorical purposes with regards to ages[/b]. The Serpent Barrier (13th sign-Ophiuchus) has nothing to do with this either. That sign sign doesn't fit into the zodiacal age sequence. Call it whatever you want, it makes sense.

I'm not making a connection to generic Astrology. Just as the Ophiuchus thing was declared total bullshit, you would have us believe that a system that has been used and understood for millenniums that has impacted architecture and art all over the world is now "metaphorically" the opposite of what we have learned to understand??? No, not buying it.

I'll look into it because its an interesting subject, but to accept this would mean the entire historical timeline is corrupt... and I wont reject that out of hand either.