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**Pope Barbie Imaculata**

Note: To avoid some confusion, this is the first article ever that did a complete analysis of the Pilgrims Society and made photocopies of membership lists available. The story that comes out here is one that is infinitely more detailed than anything that has been written before. And as with numerous other ISGP articles, basic Wikipedia entries were created soon after this (original) article was published. Just a couple of years ago, you wouldn't be able to find 10 percent of the information on the Pilgrims that is provided here. Keep that in mind when someone argues, "The Pilgrims are mentioned on Wikipedia, so what's the secret?". The secrets probably are that a complete analysis will prove that A) Yes, an Anglo-American establishment, including an Eastern Establishment, has existed for a very long time; and B) that a truly awful amount of influence is concentrated within this group.
Pilgrims
Pilgrims of Great Britain dinner, January 9, 1951. Logo and flags in background. "There are several curious things about these Pilgrims functions. In the first place there is present at these dinners an array of notables such as it would be difficult to bring together under one roof for any other purpose and by any other society... Among the guests were John D. Rockefeller and J.P. Morgan, Thomas W. Lamont and other members of the House of Morgan... We are entitled to know what the Pilgrim Society is, what it stands for, and who these powerful Pilgrims are that can call out the great to hear a British Ambassador expound to Americans the virtues of a united democratic front."
- John T. Whiteford asking very reasonable questions in his 1940 pamphlet 'Sir Uncle Sam: Knight of the British Empire'.

"[The aim of the international bankers was] nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was
to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences."
- Professor Carroll Quigley, 'Tragedy & Hope', p. 324. Can the Pilgrims, which Quigley never mentioned, verify his story of an Anglo-American Establishment?

http://wikispooks.com/ISGP/organisations...iety02.htm

**blind prophet**

For rare topic, one I should do more research on...

Barb, from what I have seen is no one ever talks about these guys.

**Pope Barbie Imaculata**

blind prophet Wrote:

For rare topic, one I should do more research on...

Barb, from what I have seen is no one ever talks about these guys.

I just spent half an hour reading it. There is a lot of information there and it seems to be quite accurate. It confirms something I always thought. That the eastern establishment are actually loyalists to the old British aristocracy.

I am starting to question everything I ever believed about America.

**Bean There** lop guest User ID: 112303 08-02-2012 02:58 PM

Excellent source Barb. Well put together infos.

Hit the Front Page people.

**Pope Barbie Imaculata**

This site seems to be the real mother lode of scholarly information of everything discussed here but with out bias or sensationalism.

http://wikispooks.com/ISGP/index.html

**Hero Protagonist**

Good info. Thanks!

**Bean There** lop guest User ID: 112303 08-02-2012 03:23 PM

From the site Front Page :

"That the online and off-line conspiracy community has such a terrible reputation, because it has been completely infiltrated by different establishments. And because of this it is almost impossible to get decent information without doing years of in depth research. If you think this is unlikely, remember how the FBI under J. Edgar Hoover had 15,000 undercover agents in the U.S. Communist Party and, in cooperation with the CIA, was actively (and illegally) undermining anti-war and other leftist groups. In more recent years it has come out that the militia movement was also ran by the FBI to some extent. From England we have examples that the anti-nuclear movement was completely penetrated and ran by British intelligence. So should we really expect that the conspiracy community is treated any different, certainly in the United States? After all, from whatever perspective you look at it, this community is a huge threat to national security. From a realpolitik point of view you just cannot allow it to operate independently. It needs to be penetrated and managed, at the very least to prevent manipulation by foreign powers. And there's plenty of evidence that it is also being manipulated by several establishments and in every possible way, which is definitely illegal. This list of 9/11 investigators should be a strong indication. Various examples are also discussed in one of the above points and in the Pilgrims Society article. But there's much more."

**Pope Barbie Imaculata** · (This post was last modified: 08-02-2012 03:34 PM by Pope Barbie Imaculata.)

What I am getting from this is there are three "establishments" Left, Right and Zionist. They are opposed on some things and working together on others. We are being used by one or more of them push an agenda.

The entire governments of the US, UK, EU and Israel are made up of these factions and no one not aligned with them climbs into any position of power.

There are no good guys. No white hats. They all want a global police state. Left, Right, Conservative, New Age, all major religions are mechanisms of control competing factions use.

At least that's the message I am getting.

"That it is clear that all three groups care little for democracy and that not just the (neo)conservatives, but also the liberal establishment is very much focused on slowly turning the U.S. in a police state. Most likely both establishments are already planning for civil unrest due to dwindling oil reserves and the possibility that the draft needs to be reinstated when countries in Asia are challenged (although the tactics of these establishments differ a bit). So if anything, this model clearly shows that democracy is a bottom-up movement and definitely not a top-down one."

**Pope Barbie Imaculata**

shameless self bump to knock some of the fluff down.

**Enaid**

To read at my next break.
Looks very interesting.
Thanks.

Heartflowers

**Bean There** lop guest User ID: 112303 08-02-2012 04:32 PM

5 unregistered * and a Bump

for the PIN!!!

**Hero Protagonist**

Bean There Wrote:

5 unregistered * and a for the PIN!!!

**Gracie**

Excellent post, Barb.

I really appreciate these types of rarely discussed, informative thread topics. Thanks for posting this important info.

Bump

**Pope Barbie Imaculata**

Thank you Gracie.

**Frigg Stuyvesant**

Outstanding! Barb!

Bump

Finally some choice conspiracy grist!