Post: #1

It all starts with a guy called Malthus who proposed a theory in 1798 and published it six times before 1826.
His theory is often thought to be this, if the population of the world continues to grow eventually we will run out of food to support the population resulting in an all out brawl for survival leading to a decline of civilization as we know it and a mass population reduction.

What he really said was, In any population there is a poorer section of society no matter how hard we try to eliminate it. At a certain point in population growth there is not enough Jobs to go around, this means the Poorest people will not be able to find work and this will lead to hardships that will lead to the poorest having to take/steal from the rich to survive.

We see this happening now at our present level of population. There are not enough jobs to go around and people who not under an economic yoke are not under control.

Malthus pushed his theory around in the highest circles he could obtain, Companies, Banking, Governments and the Churches.
Many took him very seriously.

If you don't have to pay bills or buy stuff then you don't have to work and that means you are not under control economically.

The whole western world is under control economically.

When there are too many people to employ we are faced with letting them die [inhumane] or suffer, or paying for them to live which eventually spirals out of control as it is even more of a drain on resources.

For those that try and control us it is not about the collapse of civilization they are worried about but their control being lost as people seek answers to survival that do not involve the current monetary system.

1800 the world population was a Billion people. They were not in a hurry to find an answer to the problem presented by Malthus.

Now we have hit the employment limit, not the food limit we can feed 25 billion on Earth with some ease but what then?

Luckily for us the Controllers have taken things into their own hands and bandy about sayings like “would you kill hundreds to save millions?” “what about millions to save Billions?”

What they are actually doing is killing Billions to save only a few Million, 500 million if you read the Georgia guide-stones.

How?

With everything they have of course.

The elderly are being finished off by medication as soon as convenient, they drug grandma so much you think she is loosing her marbles when you go and visit.

Food packaging is toxic.

Food is under mineralized leaving us with weakened immune systems, grown industrially with all sorts of chemicals in them.
Meat production is virtually the same with drugs and hormones being injected to get higher growth yield.
Pharmaceuticals are the the third leading cause of death in most Western countries.

Our very lifestyles are taking decades off our lives and leaving us unfit and with even more weakening of our immune systems.
Water is contaminated in most developed countries, either with chemicals, hydrocarbons or drugs.

Vaccines are taking years off our lives, not to mention the deliberate spread of diseases like AIDS being introduced to the African population to keep it under control.

Here is an excerpt from William Coopers “Behold a pale Horse”

Heart disease used to be a very rare illness. Now it is epidemic. Go
and look at the statistics. I do not know what is causing this, but 80 years
ago people consumed more salt, fat, cholesterol, and everything else that
heart disease is blamed upon, but the disease was rare. Why is it now one
of the leading killers?

Tobacco fields in the U.S. have been fertilized with the radioactive
haillings from uranium mines, resulting in a tremendous increase in the
incidence of lip, mouth, throat, and lung cancer. If you do not believe it,
just look at the incidence of lung cancer per capita before 1950 and compare
it to the lung cancer per capita at the present time. Are those who smoke
committing suicide, or are they being murdered?

It is a matter of public record that investigations into cover-ups of
radioactive leaks into the atmosphere and into ground water have revealed
that some leaks were not accidental but were purposeful. Some areas of the
country now have such a high rate of cancer that virtually everyone who
lives in these areas will die other than a natural death.
The true extent of radioactive gases, waste, and toxic material, especially caesium-137, strontium-90, uranium-mine and -mill tailings, thorium-230, radium-226, and
radon-222 that has leaked or has been purposely planted in the atmosphere, soil, and ground water is far beyond anything you or I can imagine.

Every investigation has revealed that the true figures regarding radioactive
leakage are much larger than official figures and the real numbers may
never be known. Cover-up has become SOP (standard operating procedure) at all levels and in all departments of government.

We see this is an all pervasive movement with Corporations taking a direct hand in all this.

So what next, a killer plague sweeping the southern states and central America?
Mass sterilization?
More Fukushima's?
WAR?
The deliberate destruction/contamination of food sources?
Hard Drugs at rock bottom prices?

Looks like the USA and Europe are the places suffering from high unemployment so I would suggest these places are top of the list for depopulation.
There is not point depopulating Iran or China if no-one is going to go there to earn a wage.

I hope people see what it being done to them.
Killing us softly so as not to raise the alarm and cause reprisals.

Post: #2

Does that mean us Aussies and Kiwis will be okay?

Post: #3

Spank The Monkey  Wrote:

Does that mean us Aussies and Kiwis will be okay?

There is not many of us and plenty for us to do, in fact the world doesn't need us we can just stay nice and quite down here........plotting.

Post: #4

Yeah, but Malthus was a charlatan. And has been proven wrong over and over and over and over.

Suppression of technology in the name of curving population is a crime against humanity. The perps should be tried as war criminals. They're at war vs the salt of the earth. To protect their greed.

Post: #5

the world needs to stop f*cking

problem solved

Post: #6

Pi  Wrote:

Yeah, but Malthus was a charlatan. And has been proven wrong over and over and over and over.

Suppression of technology in the name of curving population is a crime against humanity. The perps should be tried as war criminals. They're at war vs the salt of the earth. To protect their greed.

I don't disagree with you at all, the idea that the controllers latched onto was when employment runs out so does their ability to keep people under control.
Nearly everything around us is shortening our lives.

Malthus made his predictions in a time before industrialized food production, before employment was something more than just physical labor.

So how do you find enough employment for future generations?
What are they going to do?
For those that seek to keep us under control this is the problem that drives them at the current time and we see some conflict as each faction does not want to be wiped out but would rather their race becomes the over all New Man as espoused by Hitler.

How long until birth deformities become so prevalent that licenses to breed or straight out genetic engineering becomes the norm.
That is one of the proposed solutions and we see a drive to cause more birth deformities as a result of environmental pollution, Fukushima and Chernobyl anyone?

We are as the "useless eaters" being wiped out as quickly as possible without raising alarm and resistance.
The same people who created the society of Useless eaters now complain about what they have done all in the name of retaining control over us.

Post: #7

No, jobs are not the problem. Resources are the problem.

Yes no one is starving to death - well unless you think that 2 billion going to bed hungry is a problem... But then during Malthus's time Petroleum based agriculture was all but unheard of. Today we have farms and hybrid seeds and even genetically engineered seeds that are being supported by chemical fertilizers (from oil) pesticides (from oil) Herbicides (from oil) a plethora of disease treatments (from oil).

Malthus's statements were based on the then known limits of agriculture.

Which ironically is the only real good agriculture system we humans ever had, but its upper limit on providing food is for about 1 billion souls.

Where does the 500 million number come from? Mostly from what earth is naturally able to sustain as arable (farm-able) land. That means no dams, no canals, no pumping fossil water. It also means no tractors, no pesticides, no chemical fertilizers, no hybrid seeds, no genetically modified seeds (or animals).

The other catch is shipping of food and where humans best thrive. We are not creatures of the snow and ice, we are creatures of the tropics and about 500 million would fit nicely and comfortably back where we belong - the tropics. Thus we do not have to worry about fuel to heat homes through blizzards, lots of clothing and all of that other unnatural stuff.

As for jobs - there are too many jobs today.

90% of the jobs being done by people today can be done by a machine that does the job more efficiently and cheaper. The reality is that only about 1 billion people need to work in order to keep the world going. And then that is a 4 hour day three days a week.

We broke that technological barrier in the 1980's... So why is everyone working?

Bankers and greed. Currency is a false system. It served its purpose, much like the telegraph served its purpose. But we have better systems - we have cell phones - we should by now have a better system than currency to economize goods and services.

It is the greed of a few individuals that has caused this shortage of money (recession). That is not an issue of over population.

The real issue of overpopulation is lack of resources. Google "peak everything"...

Post: #8

There are plenty of jobs.

Just not with globalism.

It would take billions to clean up the nasty ass Indian river of dead bodies.

We could start there.

Post: #9

Bowyn Aerrow  Wrote:

No, jobs are not the problem. Resources are the problem.

Yes no one is starving to death - well unless you think that 2 billion going to bed hungry is a problem... But then during Malthus's time Petroleum based agriculture was all but unheard of. Today we have farms and hybrid seeds and even genetically engineered seeds that are being supported by chemical fertilizers (from oil) pesticides (from oil) Herbicides (from oil) a plethora of disease treatments (from oil).

Malthus's statements were based on the then known limits of agriculture.

Which ironically is the only real good agriculture system we humans ever had, but its upper limit on providing food is for about 1 billion souls.

Where does the 500 million number come from? Mostly from what earth is naturally able to sustain as arable (farm-able) land. That means no dams, no canals, no pumping fossil water. It also means no tractors, no pesticides, no chemical fertilizers, no hybrid seeds, no genetically modified seeds (or animals).

The other catch is shipping of food and where humans best thrive. We are not creatures of the snow and ice, we are creatures of the tropics and about 500 million would fit nicely and comfortably back where we belong - the tropics. Thus we do not have to worry about fuel to heat homes through blizzards, lots of clothing and all of that other unnatural stuff.

As for jobs - there are too many jobs today.

90% of the jobs being done by people today can be done by a machine that does the job more efficiently and cheaper. The reality is that only about 1 billion people need to work in order to keep the world going. And then that is a 4 hour day three days a week.

We broke that technological barrier in the 1980's... So why is everyone working?

Bankers and greed. Currency is a false system. It served its purpose, much like the telegraph served its purpose. But we have better systems - we have cell phones - we should by now have a better system than currency to economize goods and services.

It is the greed of a few individuals that has caused this shortage of money (recession). That is not an issue of over population.

The real issue of overpopulation is lack of resources. Google "peak everything"...

Yes resources are well mentioned in Bill Coopers Book "Behold a pale horse"
With out access to raw materials Banking and industry lose their driver of economics.

We don't lack for food in the world. 20% of food produced is wasted before it even is packaged. Talk to fishermen about sea farming and they will tell you of how much food can be made in a cubic kilometer of water, mind blowing, more water than Land in the world.

Logistically we can support well over 35 billion people with ease, it is not the food that is running out.
Resources we see being locked up all the time, wars have been fought over it. Yet still we haven't even tapped 1% of the earths crust, so no lack of resources in reality.

Yes I agree with your assessment greed etc , but I see it as a means to control the population by telling people it is all running out we need to live sustainable and recycle, just another lever on the control system.

Invasive control systems have been ever imposed on us since 1928 with the publication of Propaganda by Edward L Bernays, they took his ideas seriously and changed education systems. With the invention of TV[and now the Internet] social reeducation was implemented easily directing peoples opinions to where they were wanted to be.

The only true future for humanity is to go to space.

I am just trying to draw attention to the fact we are being deliberately killed off quietly and as rapidly as possible by those we should have never trusted.

Post: #10

Spank The Monkey  Wrote:

Does that mean us Aussies and Kiwis will be okay?

IMO Kiwis have a chance to go independant, but we probably wont, Oz has alot of land and minerals unfortunately and is getting lined up to be raped.
Imagine the focus comming off Europe and onto the Pacific !, thats Oz, and a bunch of islands, Oz is the size of Europe but a spec when it comes to population.
Its not the population thats the problem IMO anyway, its the system !!
The planet and Nature can cohabitate with heaps more people, co habitate being an important part the humans need to learn.

Post: #11

Dire_effects  Wrote:

There are plenty of jobs.

Just not with globalism.

It would take billions to clean up the nasty ass Indian river of dead bodies.

We could start there.

Unemployment rates in the EU and UK and US would indicate differently.

Post: #12

Bond, James Bond  Wrote:

Dire_effects  Wrote:

There are plenty of jobs.

Just not with globalism.

It would take billions to clean up the nasty ass Indian river of dead bodies.

We could start there.

Unemployment rates in the EU and UK and US would indicate differently.

By design.
Our ECONOMY will not allow for job creation.
Obama fetching jobs in India and China instead of the ole home front is the problem.

Post: #13

In order to have any serious population growth, most couples would have to have 4+ children. That doesn't tend to happen.

In a perfect world (assuming everyone mated with a opposite sex person):

If every couple has 2 children, there would be no population growth.

If every couple has 1 child only, there would be population reduction.

Now since it's not a perfect world, many people won't mate, some couples will only have one child (or none at all), and many children will die prematurely. So even "each couple has 2 children" is going to see population reduction.

So, if there were a lot of couples who had 3 kids, and some with 4 or more, then it would seem population would probably stay pretty much stagnant.

Therefore, if there is serious population growth, many couples must be having 4+ children.

Just my 2 cents.

Post: #14

Merky  Wrote:

Spank The Monkey  Wrote:

Does that mean us Aussies and Kiwis will be okay?

IMO Kiwis have a chance to go independant, but we probably wont, Oz has alot of land and minerals unfortunately and is getting lined up to be raped.
Imagine the focus comming off Europe and onto the Pacific !, thats Oz, and a bunch of islands, Oz is the size of Europe but a spec when it comes to population.
Its not the population thats the problem IMO anyway, its the system !!
The planet and Nature can cohabitate with heaps more people, co habitate being an important part the humans need to learn.

Some of my friends have worked for those companies mining in OZ.
They are just ripping it all out of the ground as quickly as possible before serious regulations come in. They pay a lot of money to keep peoples mouths shut about what really goes on.
Big money, all international mining companies.

Post: #15

The Martini Maven  Wrote:

the world needs to stop f*cking

problem solved

Don't worry, so many are now becoming so fat and/or ugly that they have become unfuckable.