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The Put Up or Shut Up Ron Paul challenge.
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RE: The Put Up or Shut Up Ron Paul challenge.
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-22-2012 11:09 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-22-2012 10:52 PM)
When RP is prez we'll find now won't we?

Yeah, but I am hinging on giving Obama a second chance. I never believed truely all the over the top attacks at him, like he is communist, the left is the NWO elite, he will bring martial law and become dictator and all that.
I actually like universal healthcare, I think he tried to bring new rules to wallstreet and tried many other things I would agree with. But how the right blocked him and outshouted all his and the democratic policies, with stuff that it is all communism and dictatorship, makes it difficult to measure. It also make me want to see Obama and democrats do their thing without any republicans. I almost all blame them for trying to make him fail, and America suffer, just so they could maybe get the next election (and then they come up with Mitt....joke?).

If I would vote RP, which could be, I would get my helmet on and strap myself in real tight, cos I don't know if it's gonna hurt. But on the other hand I would think, bring it!


P.S. This is what Obama camp says about Obama, what if it is true?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2POembdArVo

So you want more 'laws' like the NDAA being rubber stamped? More DHS goons directing their TSA agents groping your kids and parents in even more locations? More 'UN police actions' in more countries that did nothing in the way of violence towards America and had no capability to do so to begin with? More bail outs for the gamblers in our largest financial institutions by their buddies at the Fed Reserve at the expense of the American people while they all snicker and giggle at us? More executive orders saying that what's yours is now the governments any time they decide to come and take it?

Barrack Barry Hussein Soetero Obama is a created fiction brought to you by the CIA as ordered by the Rothschild banking barons in order to hand the country over to their mafia cartel. There are so many conflicts of interest in his history that he wouldn't be able to pass a simple background check for employment at McGmo's and the only way he got to where he is is blatant fraud and manipulation by the intelligence agencies and their propaganda branch the main stream media. (Hi Buster. Just waiting for you to jump on this one.)

Why not just give up and admit that the banks own the country and go watch some more American Idol while the banks still allow you your television set?

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RE: The Put Up or Shut Up Ron Paul challenge.
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-22-2012 11:16 PM)
The biggest problem with Paulaholics
is that they want simple answers

They're not willing to make the hard decisions
or do the hard work.

Which is exactly why we're in the current situation we are.
And Ron Paul is just another simple non-answer
which lets them avoid the hard path.

So no acceptance of the challenge, just more insults?

Jptdknpa

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LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-22-2012 11:26 PM)
Good post. I'll have to think about it.
You think he has a better chance to enact Glass-Steagall than another senator who wants it? You know Obama tried a compromised version and republicans still shot it down.

But if what you say would come to pass, I would surely vote RP.

I'm pretty sure Ron wouldn't veto Glass-Steagall, but I don't expect him to push for it.

Ron voted no on the repeal, but didn't co-sponsor the reinstatement.

It may be because Glass-Steagall empowers the Federal Reserve as the regulator, and he's anti-FED.

As far as the Obama compromise goes, he had a supermajority, he could have passed REAL GLASS-STEAGAL, but he chose bailouts instead.

Don't forget the Tea party swept in AFTER 2 years of Obama betrayal.

Heartflowers

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RE: The Put Up or Shut Up Ron Paul challenge.
This is the part where you paint your face blue
and scream "FREEDOM".

Morons.

You deserve exactly what you've gotten
because you are intellectually lazy
and easily duped.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3oz0zhEwZk
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Luvapottamus  Wrote: (04-22-2012 11:18 PM)
There have been some stupid attacks against Obama. Like he's a communist or he's a muslim.

A muslim wouldn't be droning muslims.

And a communist wouldn't have the Goldman Sachs team as his team.

But that is a VALID ciriticism.

LOOK AT HIS CABINET and ADVISORS.

He has only BAD INTENTIONS.

That's the difference between a Paultard and an Obamabot.

I don't expect Paul to fix everything. But I can judge CHARACTER.

And track record.

chuckle

I'm just trying to keep an open view and not get taken by the hand with all kinds of propaganda. They do ofcourse work on me too a bit and I actually fear a bit what is behind Obama but also what maybe is behind RP. But should I listen to that? I don't know any actual fact of any bad intentions of Obama, and I don't know any fact about a hidden Agenda of RP.

So on face value, without a shouting conservative in both my ears, I can see that the last 3 years Obama tried some typical democratic ways of fixing poverty and the economy. Many things I agree with, and probably you would actually too if you didn't get influenced by pundits.
And I saw republicans just blindly not caring for anything but make stuff not work, so they could maybe impeach him and enjoy power. So it could very well be that Obama is not the problem but the GOP is a mess.

Does it make me an Obamabot if I don't join the mob that it out to hang him?

I also don't think the leftist elite are especially the ones in power in creating the NWO. I'm sure that most militairy and corporate clubs who are building the NWO are proud republicans who are in it for the money. So I also don't think I would remove tptb and nwo by removing Obama.

Maybe the only true bots out there are all those who are automated to call people Obamabots or Paulbots. What is up whith that? People can vote, but they shouldn't like their candidate?
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RE: The Put Up or Shut Up Ron Paul challenge.
Ron Paul Still in the Race with Millions in Funding and Zero Debt


Quote:Republican Party presidential hopeful Ron Paul is still polling strong among many demographics and shows no sign of slowing down. At least if his bank records have anything to do with it. The candidate’s camp announced on Friday that so far in 2012 his campaign has managed to bring in almost $10.4 million in contributions from donors determined to keep the congressman in the GOP race.

Those funds won’t be funneled to pay off earlier spending, either. His officials say that in addition to the big bucks that came in for the first quarter, the Ron Paul campaign has zero debt at this point in the race. Compare that to Republican Party rival and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich who was reportedly in the hole to the tune of $4.5 million last week, according to an article published by Slate.

As Ron Paul and Gingrich are now left as the only viable Republican alternative to Mitt Romney, Gingrich’s chances might soon run dry as his pocketbook does the same. Will Paul have a chance to pull through against the frontrunner, though?

“Total contributions of $10.4 million in Q1, including details such as $1.8 million cash on hand and more money bomb cash in the pipeline, amounts to excellent news as these resources fuel our effective delegate-attainment strategy,” campaign chairman Jesse Benton tells supporters in a press release published Friday.

Benton adds that he doesn’t expect to see a slump anytime soon, either. Next month Ron Paul will be put to the test in Texas, where he has served several terms as a state congressman. On May 29, residents will vote in the state’s primary.

“These ample funds also will help us compete even harder in Texas, where Ron Paul is the only Texan, veteran, and authentic conservative running,” Benton says Friday of the candidate’s continuing success.

Aside from a fat wallet, Ron Paul’s team says that the departure of Santorum from the race opens up new opportunities for their candidate to collect delegates, a maneuver that has been an unusual yet well orchestrated move so far in the campaign.

“We are fighting really hard in many states on our convention strategy,” Benton tells US News & World Report. “The exit of Santorum has opened up any more delegate opportunities for us.”

“I am not going to try to deceive you, and say that Romney doesn’t have some advantages,” Benton says. “But until he has 1,144 delegates, we are going to press on with our campaign.”

Speaker Newt Gingrich is also still campaigning, but last week his campaign bounced a check for $500, reported CNN. Since then he has been resorted to renting out his campaign’s donor list in order to dig himself out of the hole.

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RE: The Put Up or Shut Up Ron Paul challenge.
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-22-2012 11:41 PM)
Luvapottamus  Wrote: (04-22-2012 11:18 PM)
There have been some stupid attacks against Obama. Like he's a communist or he's a muslim.

A muslim wouldn't be droning muslims.

And a communist wouldn't have the Goldman Sachs team as his team.

But that is a VALID ciriticism.

LOOK AT HIS CABINET and ADVISORS.

He has only BAD INTENTIONS.

That's the difference between a Paultard and an Obamabot.

I don't expect Paul to fix everything. But I can judge CHARACTER.

And track record.

chuckle

I'm just trying to keep an open view and not get taken by the hand with all kinds of propaganda. They do ofcourse work on me too a bit and I actually fear a bit what is behind Obama but also what maybe is behind RP. But should I listen to that? I don't know any actual fact of any bad intentions of Obama, and I don't know any fact about a hidden Agenda of RP.

So on face value, without a shouting conservative in both my ears, I can see that the last 3 years Obama tried some typical democratic ways of fixing poverty and the economy. Many things I agree with, and probably you would actually too if you didn't get influenced by pundits.
And I saw republicans just blindly not caring for anything but make stuff not work, so they could maybe impeach him and enjoy power. So it could very well be that Obama is not the problem but the GOP is a mess.

Does it make me an Obamabot if I don't join the mob that it out to hang him?

I also don't think the leftist elite are especially the ones in power in creating the NWO. I'm sure that most militairy and corporate clubs who are building the NWO are proud republicans who are in it for the money. So I also don't think I would remove tptb and nwo by removing Obama.

Maybe the only true bots out there are all those who are automated to call people Obamabots or Paulbots. What is up whith that? People can vote, but they shouldn't like their candidate?

I'm not a supporter of Obama. I think he's a CIA creation as ordered by their owners the Federal Reserve mafia cartel.

I wasn't a Bush supporter either. He was a globalist to the core and him and his entire family are owned by the big money club that think they own the world.

Clinton was another stooge along those lines as well.

I think most local politicians on up to the federal level are only in it for what they can get out of it instead of actually wanting to do the job the way it's supposed to be done.

And I blame each and every one of us for this problem because we dropped the ball as far as keeping an eye on those we elected to represent us. All of us. Our parents and grandparents who should have held their politicians feet to the fire let us down as well. They dropped the ball as well.

It's useless blaming a 2 year old for swiping cookies when it's a parental issue of not paying close enough attention to that child to keep him from swiping those cookies to begin with. And the failure is apparently generational because none of us were paying close enough attention while our attention deficit child repeatedly kept swiping cookies. Now we have a fat and bloated bully who will kill you if it doesn't get more cookies.

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RE: The Put Up or Shut Up Ron Paul challenge.
Luvapottamus  Wrote: (04-22-2012 11:35 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-22-2012 11:26 PM)
Good post. I'll have to think about it.
You think he has a better chance to enact Glass-Steagall than another senator who wants it? You know Obama tried a compromised version and republicans still shot it down.

But if what you say would come to pass, I would surely vote RP.

I'm pretty sure Ron wouldn't veto Glass-Steagall, but I don't expect him to push for it.

Ron voted no on the repeal, but didn't co-sponsor the reinstatement.

It may be because Glass-Steagall empowers the Federal Reserve as the regulator, and he's anti-FED.

As far as the Obama compromise goes, he had a supermajority, he could have passed REAL GLASS-STEAGAL, but he chose bailouts instead.

Don't forget the Tea party swept in AFTER 2 years of Obama betrayal.

Heartflowers
Sorry, not a Tea Party fan. They seem to be run by neocons actually. And they started their hate before anything had be done by Obama. So without any good reason. I understand people getting up in protest against the wars and against the banking fraud and the bailouts. But the Tea Party seems to be more about removing Obama and any form of social policies. I like the Tea Party call against corruption, but I like it in Ron Paul, not in the anti-Obama sidetracked popularists which seem to have taken over the protest movement on the right. (I also don't like the painted OWS as establishment organized protest and evil).

The reason I assume he didn't try to enact the real Glass Steagal act was because he thought it would not pass. I can understand RP not voting for it because of the reasons you say, but the Tea Party, supposedly conservatives, and rest of the republicans just blocked it mostly.
I don't know of any treason of Obama. I hear a lot of empty claims, so much so you almost start to believe it, but nothing that really sticks. And if I look it up, I do find some pretty decent things he has done. Without actually getting or wanting a lot of respect or admiration for it. Also without calling out the republican charade and lies.
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-22-2012 11:41 PM)
Luvapottamus  Wrote: (04-22-2012 11:18 PM)
There have been some stupid attacks against Obama. Like he's a communist or he's a muslim.

A muslim wouldn't be droning muslims.

And a communist wouldn't have the Goldman Sachs team as his team.

But that is a VALID ciriticism.

LOOK AT HIS CABINET and ADVISORS.

He has only BAD INTENTIONS.

That's the difference between a Paultard and an Obamabot.

I don't expect Paul to fix everything. But I can judge CHARACTER.

And track record.

chuckle

I'm just trying to keep an open view and not get taken by the hand with all kinds of propaganda. They do ofcourse work on me too a bit and I actually fear a bit what is behind Obama but also what maybe is behind RP. But should I listen to that? I don't know any actual fact of any bad intentions of Obama, and I don't know any fact about a hidden Agenda of RP.

So on face value, without a shouting conservative in both my ears, I can see that the last 3 years Obama tried some typical democratic ways of fixing poverty and the economy. Many things I agree with, and probably you would actually too if you didn't get influenced by pundits.
And I saw republicans just blindly not caring for anything but make stuff not work, so they could maybe impeach him and enjoy power. So it could very well be that Obama is not the problem but the GOP is a mess.

Does it make me an Obamabot if I don't join the mob that it out to hang him?

I also don't think the leftist elite are especially the ones in power in creating the NWO. I'm sure that most militairy and corporate clubs who are building the NWO are proud republicans who are in it for the money. So I also don't think I would remove tptb and nwo by removing Obama.

Maybe the only true bots out there are all those who are automated to call people Obamabots or Paulbots. What is up whith that? People can vote, but they shouldn't like their candidate?

Sorry for calling you an Obamabot. I call myself a Paultard, so I didn't think you'd be offended, but I guess bot does sound pretty bad.

Both parties are corrupt to the core. The media is owned by the same people that own congress. But you can find out what Obama's intentions are by the company he keeps and by his actions.

The republicans don't want to impeach. If they did they could have EASILY over Operation Gunrunner or Libya. They just want power, just like the democrats.

The problem with the democrats is there aren't any.

Why is Nancy Pelosi still in a leadership position? She was given the supermajority she needed "that she couldn't do anything without" in 2006, because we wanted W impeached. She had it until 2010, what did she do with it?

Nothing good.

And Obama could have hit the ground running, passed Glass-Steagall and single payer. In year ONE.

Easily.

But he populated his cabinet with banksters. He even kept Bush Appointees.

So He's no damn good. I don't hate him as a person, but he's a lousy president. TSA got worse, the spying got worse, we got more wars, and the Republicans didn't do these things. Obama did.

I'm fully for JFK/FDR type democrat policies. Name ONE that's been blocked by republicans.

There is no such thing as sovereign debt. Nationalize monetary policy at the FED, reinstate Greenbacks.
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Angry Red Man  Wrote: (04-22-2012 11:51 PM)
I'm not a supporter of Obama. I think he's a CIA creation as ordered by their owners the Federal Reserve mafia cartel.

I wasn't a Bush supporter either. He was a globalist to the core and him and his entire family are owned by the big money club that think they own the world.

Clinton was another stooge along those lines as well.

I think most local politicians on up to the federal level are only in it for what they can get out of it instead of actually wanting to do the job the way it's supposed to be done.

And I blame each and every one of us for this problem because we dropped the ball as far as keeping an eye on those we elected to represent us. All of us. Our parents and grandparents who should have held their politicians feet to the fire let us down as well. They dropped the ball as well.

It's useless blaming a 2 year old for swiping cookies when it's a parental issue of not paying close enough attention to that child to keep him from swiping those cookies to begin with. And the failure is apparently generational because none of us were paying close enough attention while our attention deficit child repeatedly kept swiping cookies. Now we have a fat and bloated bully who will kill you if it doesn't get more cookies.

True true.
But are we really paying attention now?
Is the fat kid the government, or the unbridled capitalist billionaires clubs who are dumping their stuff all over our government?
I don't truelly know if and how we need to fix the market and it's creation of spoiled and secretive powers.
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RE: The Put Up or Shut Up Ron Paul challenge.
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-22-2012 11:52 PM)
Luvapottamus  Wrote: (04-22-2012 11:35 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-22-2012 11:26 PM)
Good post. I'll have to think about it.
You think he has a better chance to enact Glass-Steagall than another senator who wants it? You know Obama tried a compromised version and republicans still shot it down.

But if what you say would come to pass, I would surely vote RP.

I'm pretty sure Ron wouldn't veto Glass-Steagall, but I don't expect him to push for it.

Ron voted no on the repeal, but didn't co-sponsor the reinstatement.

It may be because Glass-Steagall empowers the Federal Reserve as the regulator, and he's anti-FED.

As far as the Obama compromise goes, he had a supermajority, he could have passed REAL GLASS-STEAGAL, but he chose bailouts instead.

Don't forget the Tea party swept in AFTER 2 years of Obama betrayal.

Heartflowers
Sorry, not a Tea Party fan. They seem to be run by neocons actually. And they started their hate before anything had be done by Obama. So without any good reason. I understand people getting up in protest against the wars and against the banking fraud and the bailouts. But the Tea Party seems to be more about removing Obama and any form of social policies. I like the Tea Party call against corruption, but I like it in Ron Paul, not in the anti-Obama sidetracked popularists which seem to have taken over the protest movement on the right. (I also don't like the painted OWS as establishment organized protest and evil).

The reason I assume he didn't try to enact the real Glass Steagal act was because he thought it would not pass. I can understand RP not voting for it because of the reasons you say, but the Tea Party, supposedly conservatives, and rest of the republicans just blocked it mostly.
I don't know of any treason of Obama. I hear a lot of empty claims, so much so you almost start to believe it, but nothing that really sticks. And if I look it up, I do find some pretty decent things he has done. Without actually getting or wanting a lot of respect or admiration for it. Also without calling out the republican charade and lies.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/09/13/v...ar-crimes/

http://www.prisonplanet.com/sen-ran-paul...rimes.html

http://moralmatters.org/2012/04/15/41512...t-america/

http://www.salon.com/2008/07/09/fisa_13/

Just a quick search mind you.

Obama is as criminal as Bush and all the others and they should all be tried in court.

Mitakuye Oyasin We are all related. Screw that, all y'all are disowned.

The Idiocracy has won.

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Luvapottamus  Wrote: (04-22-2012 09:58 PM)
Try renaming the thread: "The Put Up or Shut Up Ron Paul Challenge"

That might get the bashers/traitors in here.

Then us brownshirts can beat them up.

chuckle

thats funny
i am actually wearing a brownshirt at the moment chuckle
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RE: The Put Up or Shut Up Ron Paul challenge.
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-22-2012 11:52 PM)
Luvapottamus  Wrote: (04-22-2012 11:35 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-22-2012 11:26 PM)
Good post. I'll have to think about it.
You think he has a better chance to enact Glass-Steagall than another senator who wants it? You know Obama tried a compromised version and republicans still shot it down.

But if what you say would come to pass, I would surely vote RP.

I'm pretty sure Ron wouldn't veto Glass-Steagall, but I don't expect him to push for it.

Ron voted no on the repeal, but didn't co-sponsor the reinstatement.

It may be because Glass-Steagall empowers the Federal Reserve as the regulator, and he's anti-FED.

As far as the Obama compromise goes, he had a supermajority, he could have passed REAL GLASS-STEAGAL, but he chose bailouts instead.

Don't forget the Tea party swept in AFTER 2 years of Obama betrayal.

Heartflowers
Sorry, not a Tea Party fan. They seem to be run by neocons actually. And they started their hate before anything had be done by Obama. So without any good reason. I understand people getting up in protest against the wars and against the banking fraud and the bailouts. But the Tea Party seems to be more about removing Obama and any form of social policies. I like the Tea Party call against corruption, but I like it in Ron Paul, not in the anti-Obama sidetracked popularists which seem to have taken over the protest movement on the right. (I also don't like the painted OWS as establishment organized protest and evil).

The reason I assume he didn't try to enact the real Glass Steagal act was because he thought it would not pass. I can understand RP not voting for it because of the reasons you say, but the Tea Party, supposedly conservatives, and rest of the republicans just blocked it mostly.
I don't know of any treason of Obama. I hear a lot of empty claims, so much so you almost start to believe it, but nothing that really sticks. And if I look it up, I do find some pretty decent things he has done. Without actually getting or wanting a lot of respect or admiration for it. Also without calling out the republican charade and lies.

I'm not a tea party fan either. They got taken over by Sarah Palin and Koch Brothers.

The OG tea party was against the police state and the wars.

It got co-opted.

I'm just saying, the fake tea party couldn't have swept in if Obama hadn't betrayed us.

If he hadn't picked Goldman Sachs to run treasury and hadn't picked Phizer to run Health care, there would have been no Tea Party Coup.

There is no such thing as sovereign debt. Nationalize monetary policy at the FED, reinstate Greenbacks.
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RE: The Put Up or Shut Up Ron Paul challenge.
Luvapottamus  Wrote: (04-22-2012 11:56 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-22-2012 11:41 PM)
Luvapottamus  Wrote: (04-22-2012 11:18 PM)
There have been some stupid attacks against Obama. Like he's a communist or he's a muslim.

A muslim wouldn't be droning muslims.

And a communist wouldn't have the Goldman Sachs team as his team.

But that is a VALID ciriticism.

LOOK AT HIS CABINET and ADVISORS.

He has only BAD INTENTIONS.

That's the difference between a Paultard and an Obamabot.

I don't expect Paul to fix everything. But I can judge CHARACTER.

And track record.

chuckle

I'm just trying to keep an open view and not get taken by the hand with all kinds of propaganda. They do ofcourse work on me too a bit and I actually fear a bit what is behind Obama but also what maybe is behind RP. But should I listen to that? I don't know any actual fact of any bad intentions of Obama, and I don't know any fact about a hidden Agenda of RP.

So on face value, without a shouting conservative in both my ears, I can see that the last 3 years Obama tried some typical democratic ways of fixing poverty and the economy. Many things I agree with, and probably you would actually too if you didn't get influenced by pundits.
And I saw republicans just blindly not caring for anything but make stuff not work, so they could maybe impeach him and enjoy power. So it could very well be that Obama is not the problem but the GOP is a mess.

Does it make me an Obamabot if I don't join the mob that it out to hang him?

I also don't think the leftist elite are especially the ones in power in creating the NWO. I'm sure that most militairy and corporate clubs who are building the NWO are proud republicans who are in it for the money. So I also don't think I would remove tptb and nwo by removing Obama.

Maybe the only true bots out there are all those who are automated to call people Obamabots or Paulbots. What is up whith that? People can vote, but they shouldn't like their candidate?

Sorry for calling you an Obamabot. I call myself a Paultard, so I didn't think you'd be offended, but I guess bot does sound pretty bad.

Both parties are corrupt to the core. The media is owned by the same people that own congress. But you can find out what Obama's intentions are by the company he keeps and by his actions.

The republicans don't want to impeach. If they did they could have EASILY over Operation Gunrunner or Libya. They just want power, just like the democrats.

The problem with the democrats is there aren't any.

Why is Nancy Pelosi still in a leadership position? She was given the supermajority she needed "that she couldn't do anything without" in 2006, because we wanted W impeached. She had it until 2010, what did she do with it?

Nothing good.

And Obama could have hit the ground running, passed Glass-Steagall and single payer. In year ONE.

Easily.

But he populated his cabinet with banksters. He even kept Bush Appointees.

So He's no damn good. I don't hate him as a person, but he's a lousy president. TSA got worse, the spying got worse, we got more wars, and the Republicans didn't do these things. Obama did.

I'm fully for JFK/FDR type democrat policies. Name ONE that's been blocked by republicans.
Buffet fair tax rule, The Small Business Jobs Act, The DREAM Act, Tax on Companies that ship jobs overseas, Political Ad disclosure bill....

Just a sample.
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