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The Truth About GOP Hero Ayn Rand
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This thread is kind of funny, lol. And yes I love "Atlas Shrugged' and the whole objectivism way of thinking. And yes, capitalism, without greed or corruption, is amazing.

If you support Rand's ideology, then you have to embrace greed as a virtue above all others. Her pseudo philosophy, Objectivism is based on egoism and praises the virtue of selfishness above anything else. She argues that selfishness is moral and thus altruism is immoral.

I agree with Rand that capitalism is the freest economic system, but I harshly disagree with Rand’s vision of freedom. To Rand, freedom means being able to do whatever you want to do without taking any kind of responsibility for that. This is immature.

In turn her "philosophy" serves as an excuse for socialism for the rich, vulture capitalism for all others. No wonders she turned into an idol of Corporate Welfare whores like Ryan.

Listen to him when he was literally BEGGING the Congress to pass TARP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyJBZYz858M

Touche, I agree with this statement to a point. When I was reading "Atlas Shrugged" however, I perceived it more as not ever limiting ones capabilities or aspirations rather than selfishness. I do agree with the ego part, but do not necessarily see that as bad, even though I would not want to be like that myself. I feel like that attitude could often be good at getting things accomplished, even though it may make someone an asshole. Great points though!

Think about TARP; that was the worst combo (or the best for some) between Socialism and Capitalism - socializing loses of the privileged ones while letting them privatize their profits. Banksters made massive profits on account of the Housing Bubble; when the Bubble’s burst their losses were covered on taxpayers’ account.

Yes, we should be "selfish" enough to stand against corporate welfare whores and WS leeches robbing us.
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The Lucky AC
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08-16-2012 01:46 PM

 



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RE: The Truth About GOP Hero Ayn Rand
LoP Guest  Wrote:
Patrick Bateman  Wrote:
LoP Guest  Wrote:
If you support Rand's ideology, then you have to embrace greed as a virtue above all others. Her pseudo philosophy, Objectivism is based on egoism and praises the virtue of selfishness above anything else. She argues that selfishness is moral and thus altruism is immoral.

I agree with Rand that capitalism is the freest economic system, but I harshly disagree with Rand’s vision of freedom. To Rand, freedom means being able to do whatever you want to do without taking any kind of responsibility for that. This is immature.

In turn her "philosophy" serves as an excuse for socialism for the rich, vulture capitalism for all others. No wonders she turned into an idol of Corporate Welfare whores like Ryan.

Listen to him when he was literally BEGGING the Congress to pass TARP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyJBZYz858M

Touche, I agree with this statement to a point. When I was reading "Atlas Shrugged" however, I perceived it more as not ever limiting ones capabilities or aspirations rather than selfishness. I do agree with the ego part, but do not necessarily see that as bad, even though I would not want to be like that myself. I feel like that attitude could often be good at getting things accomplished, even though it may make someone an asshole. Great points though!

Think about TARP; that was the worst combo (or the best for some) between Socialism and Capitalism - socializing loses of the privileged ones while letting them privatize their profits. Banksters made massive profits on account of the Housing Bubble; when the Bubble’s burst their losses were covered on taxpayers’ account.

Yes, we should be "selfish" enough to stand against corporate welfare whores and WS leeches robbing us.

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dolphin
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08-16-2012 08:43 PM

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You missed this post.

If you don't want to watch the interview then just read the short quote from this video below it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUYCBfmIc...r_embedded

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With that as the backdrop, this is what Norman Dodd says of a conversation he had with the President of the tax-exempt Ford Foundation in 1954 as part of his Congressionally mandated investigation of tax-exempt foundations:

“Mr. Dodd, all of us who have a hand in the making of policies here have had experience operating under directives, the substance of which is that we shall use our grant-making power so to alter life in the United States that it can be comfortably merged with the Soviet Union.”

ED GRIFFIN: Why do the foundations generously support Communist causes in the United States?

NORMAN DODD: Well, because to them, Communism represents a means of developing what we call a monopoly, that is, an organization of, say, a large-scale industry into an administerable unit.

ED GRIFFIN: Do they think that they will be the ones to benefit?

NORMAN DODD: They will be the beneficiaries of it, yes.

The Writer of the book "Obamanomics" is a frequent guest panelist on Mclaughlin Group aired on Sunday mornings.

Listen to him in this interview.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2whSmoYyTs


At the very end of that interview listen to what he says about CERTAIN CORPORATIONS and favored business interests being guaranteed profits by the government because through subsidies, no bid contracts, and corporate wellfare they are given an unfair advantage in the market place as well as through regulations that put their competition out of business by creating an environment where they cannot compete. These favored Corporations and business interests then amass the desired Monopoly.

Then put it together with the information in the quote from my last post captioned below.

Quote:ED GRIFFIN: Why do the foundations generously support Communist causes in the United States?

NORMAN DODD: Well, because to them, Communism represents a means of developing what we call a monopoly, that is, an organization of, say, a large-scale industry into an administerable unit.

The obvious conclusion is that those who actually own controlling interest in the favored corporations also finance political careers to insure their own personal representatives and beurocrats run the governments and institutions of power. They also happen to fund and control the Tax Exempt Foundations, Think Tanks, and Research Institutes.

The taxes these people pay on their personal income is merely a token show to hide the fact that they own us and can pretend they actually pay their fair share which they do not. They merely run a ponzi scheme and pull all the strings. They maintain control of the governments and institutions of power through illusion which is accepted by the masses through intergenerational conditioning and mental programming enhanced through a very sophisticated dumbing down process coupled with perception management to promote disinformation that results in ignorance reenforced through "BLISS".


"There will be, in the next generation or so, methods of making people love their servitude, and producing dictatorship without tears, so to speak, producing a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them, but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda or brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods. And this seems to be the final revolution."
---Aldous Huxley, Tavistock Group, California Medical School, 1961

P.S. Aldous Huxley's brother Julien was head of the United Nations UNESCO giving him access to the policy and planning papers drawn up in the think tanks and research institutes which is where he got his material for his books. He was not the creative genious and visionary many people think of him as.

At this link is the actual AUDIO of Huxeley's entire address
http://dpg.lib.berkeley.edu/webdb/mrc/se...ous+Huxley


If you listen carfully to the introduction before Huxley begins speaking the announcer introduces Huxley
as a "FORD FOUNDATION RESEARCH PROFESSOR".

Pay very close attention to how Huxley explains that in controlling the population "TERRORISM" " is a tool that can function successfully for a very long time.



What does it all translate into you might be wondering.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul5oQ3wbs...embedded#!

What is Globalization?

It is the collec­tive effect of pur­poseful and amoral manipula­tion that seeks to centralize eco­nomic, polit­ical, techno­logical and societal forces in order to accrue max­imum profit and political power to global banks, global corÂpo­rations and the elit­ists who run them. It is rapidly moving toward an full and final imple­men­ta­tion of Technocracy.

What is the Tri­lat­eral Commission?

Founded in 1973 by David Rock­e­feller and Zbig­niew Brzezinski, the Com­mis­sion set out to create a “New Inter­na­tional Eco­nomic Order”, namely, Tech­noc­racy. The orig­inal mem­ber­ship con­sisted of elit­ists (bankers, politi­cians, aca­d­e­mics, indus­tri­al­ists) from Japan, North America and Europe. Col­lec­tively, they have dom­i­nated and con­trolled trade and eco­nomic policy in their respec­tive coun­tries since at least 1974.

What is Technocracy?

Tech­noc­racy is a move­ment started in the 1930′s by engi­neers, sci­en­tists and tech­ni­cians that pro­posed the replace­ment of cap­i­talism with an energy-based economy. Orig­i­nally envi­sioned for North America only, it is now being applied on a global basis. Authors Aldous Huxley and George Orwell believed that Tech­noc­racy would result in a Sci­en­tific Dic­ta­tor­ship, as reflected in their books, “Brave New World” and “1984“.

What is Smart Grid?

Smart Grid is the national and global imple­men­ta­tion of dig­ital and Wi-fi enabled power meters that enable com­mu­ni­ca­tion between the appli­ances in your home or busi­ness, with the power provider. This pro­vides con­trol over your appli­ances and your usage of elec­tricity, gas and water.

http://www.augustforecast.com/


The answer to preventing this agenda is rolling back socialism and humanist atheism and returning to pure Capitalism with society based on the Judeo Christian moral ethics system (not religion) since we already know from history it benefits the individual, society, and global technological progress better than anything else the world has ever seen throughout history.



Chinese Academy of Social Sciences’ study of West concludes that Christianity is responsible for its global success
By Deacon Nick, on May 16th, 2011

Dominic Lawson’s review in the Sunday Times of Niall Ferguson’s new book, ‘Civilisation: The West and the Rest’, refers to the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences twenty year study of western society in an attempt to account for its success. An official of the the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences said:

‘One of the things we were asked to look into was what accounted for the success, in fact, the pre-eminence of the West all over the world. We studied everything we could from the historical, political, economic, and cultural perspective. At first, we thought it was because you had more powerful guns than we had. Then we thought it was because you had the best political system. Next we focused on your economic system. But in the past twenty years, we have realised that the heart of your culture is your religion: Christianity. That is why the West is so powerful. The Christian moral foundation of social and cultural life was what made possible the emergence of capitalism and then the successful transition to democratic politics. We don’t have any doubt about this.’

All The Dots Connected.
http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-Aldous-H...rge-Orwell
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LUH 3417
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Post: #64
RE: The Truth About GOP Hero Ayn Rand
Ayn Rand was egregiously neurotic and confused (no, she WASN'T a feminist... AT ALL). She was another male-chauvinist in a woman's body. This is why white male capitalist pigs LOVE her. Sexism, capitalism, and imperialism/"might makes right" go hand in hand.

And don't you dare try to pigeonhole me as some commie or pinko.

Yes, the horrors of totalitarianism under the guise of "communism" were evil. But remember, we are living in another paradigm of control by the powers that be under the illusion of "Freedom" as in "Free for THEM" capitalism.

Suffering from communism is no excuse for Ayn Rand's reactionary bullshit.

The working class is literally feeding, clothing, and wiping the asses of the parasitic "Elite". Capitalism is a hierarchical system, hence the Illuminati's appropriation of the sacred symbol of the pyramid. They are at the top at the expense of the laboring proletariat. The name of the game is subjugation of the masses and exploitation of the working class in essentially ALL forms of government.

So I ask:

What would this world look like if everyone realized their highest potential?

It wouldn't look like capitalism or any economy that's for damn sure. Who's gonna do all the menial work and hard labor, hmmm? No one would be willing as everyone would be autonomous, self-realized and *self-sufficient* superbeings.

This is what TPTB want to withhold from you: your "godliness". The Truth is that there is no authority above you and no one can force their will on you unless you let them. I'll sooner die than allow these assholes with their reptilian mentality bully me into slavery. It seems physical violence is inescapable, being the most fundamental weapon to exert dominance or defend oneself, such a shame.

And no, I'm not a f*cking anarchist or gun-toting libertarian either.

"You're all a bunch of slaves!" -Jim Morrison
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08-16-2012 09:53 PM

 



Post: #65
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LUH 3417  Wrote:
Ayn Rand was egregiously neurotic and confused (no, she WASN'T a feminist... AT ALL). She was another male-chauvinist in a woman's body. This is why white male capitalist pigs LOVE her. Sexism, capitalism, and imperialism/"might makes right" go hand in hand.

And don't you dare try to pigeonhole me as some commie or pinko.

Yes, the horrors of totalitarianism under the guise of "communism" were evil. But remember, we are living in another paradigm of control by the powers that be under the illusion of "Freedom" as in "Free for THEM" capitalism.

Suffering from communism is no excuse for Ayn Rand's reactionary bullshit.

The working class is literally feeding, clothing, and wiping the asses of the parasitic "Elite". Capitalism is a hierarchical system, hence the Illuminati's appropriation of the sacred symbol of the pyramid. They are at the top at the expense of the laboring proletariat. The name of the game is subjugation of the masses and exploitation of the working class in essentially ALL forms of government.

So I ask:

What would this world look like if everyone realized their highest potential?

It wouldn't look like capitalism or any economy that's for damn sure. Who's gonna do all the menial work and hard labor, hmmm? No one would be willing as everyone would be autonomous, self-realized and *self-sufficient* superbeings.

This is what TPTB want to withhold from you: your "godliness". The Truth is that there is no authority above you and no one can force their will on you unless you let them. I'll sooner die than allow these assholes with their reptilian mentality bully me into slavery. It seems physical violence is inescapable, being the most fundamental weapon to exert dominance or defend oneself, such a shame.

And no, I'm not a f*cking anarchist or gun-toting libertarian either.

^This
Very well written and explained, defintions come clear, thank you for your excellent insight and understanding!
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Vlad
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RE: The Truth About GOP Hero Ayn Rand
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LUH 3417  Wrote:
Ayn Rand was egregiously neurotic and confused (no, she WASN'T a feminist... AT ALL). She was another male-chauvinist in a woman's body. This is why white male capitalist pigs LOVE her. Sexism, capitalism, and imperialism/"might makes right" go hand in hand.

And don't you dare try to pigeonhole me as some commie or pinko.

Yes, the horrors of totalitarianism under the guise of "communism" were evil. But remember, we are living in another paradigm of control by the powers that be under the illusion of "Freedom" as in "Free for THEM" capitalism.

Suffering from communism is no excuse for Ayn Rand's reactionary bullshit.

The working class is literally feeding, clothing, and wiping the asses of the parasitic "Elite". Capitalism is a hierarchical system, hence the Illuminati's appropriation of the sacred symbol of the pyramid. They are at the top at the expense of the laboring proletariat. The name of the game is subjugation of the masses and exploitation of the working class in essentially ALL forms of government.

So I ask:

What would this world look like if everyone realized their highest potential?

It wouldn't look like capitalism or any economy that's for damn sure. Who's gonna do all the menial work and hard labor, hmmm? No one would be willing as everyone would be autonomous, self-realized and *self-sufficient* superbeings.

This is what TPTB want to withhold from you: your "godliness". The Truth is that there is no authority above you and no one can force their will on you unless you let them. I'll sooner die than allow these assholes with their reptilian mentality bully me into slavery. It seems physical violence is inescapable, being the most fundamental weapon to exert dominance or defend oneself, such a shame.

And no, I'm not a f*cking anarchist or gun-toting libertarian either.

^This
Very well written and explained, defintions come clear, thank you for your excellent insight and understanding!

I can spend all night rebutting it, but in the end I almost alive because of this Fire, not written by an comformist at all so will * it 2, even if never ever will agree .
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Vlad  Wrote:
LoP Guest  Wrote:
LUH 3417  Wrote:
Ayn Rand was egregiously neurotic and confused (no, she WASN'T a feminist... AT ALL). She was another male-chauvinist in a woman's body. This is why white male capitalist pigs LOVE her. Sexism, capitalism, and imperialism/"might makes right" go hand in hand.

And don't you dare try to pigeonhole me as some commie or pinko.

Yes, the horrors of totalitarianism under the guise of "communism" were evil. But remember, we are living in another paradigm of control by the powers that be under the illusion of "Freedom" as in "Free for THEM" capitalism.

Suffering from communism is no excuse for Ayn Rand's reactionary bullshit.

The working class is literally feeding, clothing, and wiping the asses of the parasitic "Elite". Capitalism is a hierarchical system, hence the Illuminati's appropriation of the sacred symbol of the pyramid. They are at the top at the expense of the laboring proletariat. The name of the game is subjugation of the masses and exploitation of the working class in essentially ALL forms of government.

So I ask:

What would this world look like if everyone realized their highest potential?

It wouldn't look like capitalism or any economy that's for damn sure. Who's gonna do all the menial work and hard labor, hmmm? No one would be willing as everyone would be autonomous, self-realized and *self-sufficient* superbeings.

This is what TPTB want to withhold from you: your "godliness". The Truth is that there is no authority above you and no one can force their will on you unless you let them. I'll sooner die than allow these assholes with their reptilian mentality bully me into slavery. It seems physical violence is inescapable, being the most fundamental weapon to exert dominance or defend oneself, such a shame.

And no, I'm not a f*cking anarchist or gun-toting libertarian either.

^This
Very well written and explained, defintions come clear, thank you for your excellent insight and understanding!

I can spend all night rebutting it, but in the end I almost alive because of this Fire, not written by an comformist at all so will * it 2, even if never ever will agree .

^
Well this is the most coherent I've seen you Vlad. Is english not your first language or have you been diagnosed with schizophrenia? (I'm not being a smart-ass at all here, really). I had the suspicion you're some victim of MK-Ultra type programing and/or were ritually abused as a child (satanic sexual abuse)?

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Are we saying all the Evangelicals are sitting this one out, giving Obama the victory?

Basically, OBAMA and his ilk think that as long as individuals have a belief - or even a hope of belief - that their divine gift of reason could solve the problems facing society, then that society would never reach the state of hopelessness and alienation that they consider necessary to provoke the social revolution necessary to completely destroy the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Obama's directives therefore are to continue to as swiftly as is possible undermine the Judaeo-Christian legacy.

To do this his controllers call for the most negative destructive criticism possible of every sphere of life which would be designed to de-stabilize society and bring down what they want us to falsely see as the ‘oppressive’ order. Their policies, they hope, will spread like a virus—‘continuing the work of previous Western Marxists who did the dirty work through Non Profit Foundations and NGO's. To further the advance of the ‘quiet’ cultural revolution - - they will continue to promote the following list of directives among other things.

1. The creation of racism offences.
2. Continual change to create confusion
3. The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children
4. The undermining of schools’ and teachers’ authority
5. Huge immigration to destroy identity
6. The promotion of excessive drinking
7. Emptying of churches
8. An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime
9. Dependency on the state or state benefits10. Control and dumbing down of media
11. Encouraging the breakdown of the family

One of the main ideas is to exploit Freud’s idea of ‘pansexualism’ - the search for pleasure, the exploitation of the differences between the sexes, the overthrowing of traditional relationships between men and women.

To further the aims they continue to:

• attack the authority of the father, deny the specific roles of father and mother, and take away from families their rights as primary educators of their children.
• abolish differences in the education of boys and girls
• abolish all forms of male dominance - hence the presence of women in the armed forces
• declare women to be an ‘oppressed class’ and men as ‘oppressors’
· merging or reversing the sexes or sex roles;
· abolishing the family as we know it’

The idea is to make the United States so corrupt that it stinks.

These traitors believe there are two types of revolution: (a) political and (b) cultural. Cultural revolution demolishes from within. ‘Modern forms of subjection are marked by mildness’.

They have approaced this as a long-term project and have kept their sights clearly focused on the family, education, media, sex and popular culture.

All The Dots Connected.
http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-Aldous-H...rge-Orwell
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