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The Vietnam War: Reasons for Failure - Why the U.S. Lost
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The Vietnam War: Reasons for Failure - Why the U.S. Lost
Here is a quote from Psy-ops master Micheal Aquino on why the US lost Vietnam in his opinion.

In 1967 and 1968 alone, a total of 29,276 armed Viet Cong/NVA (the equivalent of 95 enemy infantry battalions) surrendered to ARVN or MACV forces under the Chieu Hoi amnesty program - the major PSYOP effort in the Vietnam War. At the time MACV estimated that the elimination of that same number of troops in combat would of cost us 6,000 dead.
On the other hand, we lost the war - not because we were out-fought, but because we
were out-PSYOPed. Our national will to victory was attacked more effectively than we attacked that of the North Vietnamese and Viet Cong, and perception of this fact
encouraged the enemy to hang on until the United States finally broke and ran for home. So our PSYOP failed. It failed not because its principles were unsound, but rather because it was outmatched by the PSYOP of the enemy
.

So our PSYOP failed. It failed not because its principles were unsound, but rather
because it was outmatched by the PSYOP of the enemy. The Army’s efforts enjoyed
some impressive successes, but our own PSYOP did not really change the minds of the enemy populace, nor did it defend the U.S. populace at home against the propaganda of the enemy.


My relations fought there, they told me what was really happening. The USA was securing the area to Grow Drugs, they took over whole villages in the golden triangle. One of my uncles told me when he served there he spent more time in Cambodia doing operations than in Vietnam.
Others told me of the boxes of gold bars the US was transporting out of the area at the end.

The end profiteers were Root and Brown [George bushes company] and the CIA. Root and Brown was awarded the reconstruction contracts to rebuild everything the US had blown up. US taxpayer footed the bill as always. Funny thing is Bush was the head of the CIA before he became Prez. No-one in the US makes a big deal of that.

The CIA benefited because they are the biggest drug runners in the world bar none. What they had done was find the right people who did not like how the troops were being treated at home by the public. This is the story they were sold "We are going to have a military coup back home, but first we must weaken these pinko lefties who spit on us. These degenerates are drug users. We will supply them Drugs and reduce them to nothing through their own vices" "So You will take control of this village and control it and grow the drugs here and we will pick them up."
Those soldiers were listed as MIA.

The CIA did not want any more investigations of what they had been doing by the US govt so they needed independent black funding, and drug money was that funding. You guys have the cheapest drugs in the world in the USA, available on any street corner. Few wonder why, they just want to get high.

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About 90% of those NVA turncoats turned back around, and went back, right after they were released

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My first husband went to Nam, the last year of the war. My uncle, a doctor, was in Cambodia. Lots of friends went and a few didn't come back. I was in a band that toured the military hospitals and stateside bases after the Tet Offensive. I met a lot of people including the young Bush brothers, John Kerry, Max Cleland, some rock and roll legends now who were in the miltary, actors, a long list.

At that time, the US was busy making rules about when they allowed the pilots to bomb, and where, and imaginary lines they couldn't bomb across. Ground troops were being hampered too. It was a controlled war, not intended to be won - ever.

A few years later, I discovered the Pentagon papers while my ex was in Nam. It detailed the military corruption, the use of the war to make a few rich, the buying of military brass, payoffs under the table, and enough to make your hair stand up and piss you off.
Not so different than now.

Viet Nam was not intended to be won. It was simply a cash cow for companies like Brown and Root, Halliburton, and a few others involved in the military industrial complex.

The anti war movement was not a psy-ops. It was real, and it stopped the draft, and resulted in the War Powers Act. The musicians I knew who were writing the anti war music we still listen to today weren't paid shills. They were simply pissed off young adults who saw and fought back against the corruption and lies.

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We succeeded in doing what we were sent there to do.

We destroyed that country and pulled our country out of recession.

Millions of VC dead vs 70k Americans.


Who won?
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But Air America did just fine...

Air America was an American passenger and cargo airline established in 1950 and covertly owned and operated by the Central Intelligence Agency's (CIA) Special Activities Division from 1950 to 1976. It supplied and supported United States covert operations in Southeast Asia during the Vietnam War.


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LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-09-2013 03:20 AM)
We succeeded in doing what we were sent there to do.

We destroyed that country and pulled our country out of recession.

Millions of VC dead vs 70k Americans.


Who won?

The VC still have their honor , so who won ?

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It was an atrocity and should make you be ashamed to be an American
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Well be back !  Wrote: (09-09-2013 03:28 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-09-2013 03:20 AM)
We succeeded in doing what we were sent there to do.

We destroyed that country and pulled our country out of recession.

Millions of VC dead vs 70k Americans.


Who won?

The VC still have their honor , so who won ?
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (09-09-2013 05:55 AM)
Well be back !  Wrote: (09-09-2013 03:28 AM)
The VC still have their honor , so who won ?
Well, the VC may have their honor but after Tet they were essentially a broken fighting force. Just what their comrades in the NVA wanted. Oh well, Xin Loi.
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Before the internet most were subject to a lot of propaganda from the media that told them Vietnam was about communism. It was not.

The Religious Beginnings of an Unholy War
The Shocking Story of the Catholic Church's Role in Starting the Vietnam War
By Avro Manhattan
http://www.reformation.org/vietnam.html



History of the U.S. War in Vietnam

Former Emperor Bao Dai had appointed Ngo Dinh Diem, a Vietnamese Catholic who had lived in the U.S. and Europe, Premier of South Vietnam. Though Vietnam was 95% Buddhist, the Catholic Diem was soon recognized as the future leader of Vietnam by the CIA and other U.S. interests. In 1956 the U.S. refused to go along with the promised nation-wide elections because, in the words of President Eisenhower, "Possibly 80 per cent of the population would have voted for the Communist Ho Chi Minh as their leader rather than Chief of State Bao Dai.
http://www.vvaw.org/about/warhistory.php



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Guitar Doctor  Wrote: (09-07-2013 04:00 PM)
Here is a quote from Psy-ops master Micheal Aquino on why the US lost Vietnam in his opinion.

In 1967 and 1968 alone, a total of 29,276 armed Viet Cong/NVA (the equivalent of 95 enemy infantry battalions) surrendered to ARVN or MACV forces under the Chieu Hoi amnesty program - the major PSYOP effort in the Vietnam War. At the time MACV estimated that the elimination of that same number of troops in combat would of cost us 6,000 dead.
On the other hand, we lost the war - not because we were out-fought, but because we
were out-PSYOPed. Our national will to victory was attacked more effectively than we attacked that of the North Vietnamese and Viet Cong, and perception of this fact
encouraged the enemy to hang on until the United States finally broke and ran for home. So our PSYOP failed. It failed not because its principles were unsound, but rather because it was outmatched by the PSYOP of the enemy
.

So our PSYOP failed. It failed not because its principles were unsound, but rather
because it was outmatched by the PSYOP of the enemy. The Army’s efforts enjoyed
some impressive successes, but our own PSYOP did not really change the minds of the enemy populace, nor did it defend the U.S. populace at home against the propaganda of the enemy.


My relations fought there, they told me what was really happening. The USA was securing the area to Grow Drugs, they took over whole villages in the golden triangle. One of my uncles told me when he served there he spent more time in Cambodia doing operations than in Vietnam.
Others told me of the boxes of gold bars the US was transporting out of the area at the end.

The end profiteers were Root and Brown [George bushes company] and the CIA. Root and Brown was awarded the reconstruction contracts to rebuild everything the US had blown up. US taxpayer footed the bill as always. Funny thing is Bush was the head of the CIA before he became Prez. No-one in the US makes a big deal of that.

The CIA benefited because they are the biggest drug runners in the world bar none. What they had done was find the right people who did not like how the troops were being treated at home by the public. This is the story they were sold "We are going to have a military coup back home, but first we must weaken these pinko lefties who spit on us. These degenerates are drug users. We will supply them Drugs and reduce them to nothing through their own vices" "So You will take control of this village and control it and grow the drugs here and we will pick them up."
Those soldiers were listed as MIA.

The CIA did not want any more investigations of what they had been doing by the US govt so they needed independent black funding, and drug money was that funding. You guys have the cheapest drugs in the world in the USA, available on any street corner. Few wonder why, they just want to get high.

Micheal Aquino is a lying devil worshipping pile of crap. He plays the false duality game, but he knows that the US & USSR are the same thing.
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Texas Uncensored  Wrote: (09-09-2013 03:13 AM)
My first husband went to Nam, the last year of the war. My uncle, a doctor, was in Cambodia. Lots of friends went and a few didn't come back. I was in a band that toured the military hospitals and stateside bases after the Tet Offensive. I met a lot of people including the young Bush brothers, John Kerry, Max Cleland, some rock and roll legends now who were in the miltary, actors, a long list.

At that time, the US was busy making rules about when they allowed the pilots to bomb, and where, and imaginary lines they couldn't bomb across. Ground troops were being hampered too. It was a controlled war, not intended to be won - ever.

A few years later, I discovered the Pentagon papers while my ex was in Nam. It detailed the military corruption, the use of the war to make a few rich, the buying of military brass, payoffs under the table, and enough to make your hair stand up and piss you off.
Not so different than now.

Viet Nam was not intended to be won. It was simply a cash cow for companies like Brown and Root, Halliburton, and a few others involved in the military industrial complex.

The anti war movement was not a psy-ops. It was real, and it stopped the draft, and resulted in the War Powers Act. The musicians I knew who were writing the anti war music we still listen to today weren't paid shills. They were simply pissed off young adults who saw and fought back against the corruption and lies.

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