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**ana** · **ana** . User ID: 84929 04-11-2012 11:37 PM **Posts: 4,852**

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**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 85422 04-12-2012 12:10 AM

smerve Wrote:

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The adversary are the Jews and their insane holy books. Jesus was a Jew and part of the problem, and BTW he isn't up, you know Galileo invented the telescope and their isn't any heaven up there. Furthermore when you say the only way to god is by Jesus you are in fact a Jew, a Jew making an exclusionary claim.

Belief in Jesus is a mental illness, belief that Jesus is the only way is political extremism.

If you are a Christian you are a Jew whore.

**FreedomStands**

Bug Wrote:

FreedomStands Wrote:
River of Life Wrote:
The cunning intelligence of the adversary

You don't have to be cunning if people are extremely stupid.
This is a great thread, and THAT ^ was incredibly funny!!

haha thank you! Keep an eye out for my other jokes throughout the forum! Sometimes people think I'm serious, and sometimes I am!

**Ask Jesus**

Nolo Wrote:

Well, there are some that dedicate themselves to parties and getting numb...and those that try to expand, even while at parties.

Quote:Reincarnation is a Spiritual Law!
Nothing stands in it's way because, it's just the way it is!

I figured it was a good starting point because so much of the OP's rationale hinged upon this major point.

Before taking on the much more interesting:

Quote:the grand deception that the adversary has

But if you need no cosmology that requires reason, critical thinking, or logic...then help yourself to feel-good jingoism.

So are you saying that there has not been a great deception that has took place? Please explain your position!

**GUANO**

The Lucky AC Wrote:

We are eternal...

proof?

**Ask Jesus**

GUANO Wrote:

The Lucky AC Wrote:
We are eternal...

proof?

Sadly proof of that cannot be given by the words of another. Such proof can only be found within yourself.............in your own mind!

**Aqua**

Quote:proof?

I've heard it explained that our souls are energy, and energy cannot cease to exist...it continues even after the body 'gives up the ghost'.

**Ask Jesus**

Womam Wrote:

Quote:proof?

I've heard it explained that our souls are energy, and energy cannot cease to exist...it continues even after the body 'gives up the ghost'.

And this is very true. But there does come a time when our Creator must determine............is the energy that has been given life working to forward my goals or working against them?

If upon that examination, it is found to be working against the Creators goals, then the energy that has been given life is stripped of it's personality, and given a new start as it were...............nothing is ever lost in the energy

**Nolo** · **Nolo** pneumanaut User ID: 82245 05-07-2012 08:50 AM **Posts: 1,769**

Quote:Quote:
"the grand deception that the adversary has"

So are you saying that there has not been a great deception that has took place? Please explain your position!

Never said that at all...deception abounds.
(You've never read my sig?)

...and like I said, all I had time to answer was the assertion that reincarnation was some sort of 'law'.
I provided my points on why it was unlikely from several angles, foolishly hoping for some sort of equivalent reasoned response that would counter and answer those points...and instead...

Well, anyway there was mention of deception, but like I said, I didn't get around to discussing it, because the OP's foundational point was still hanging there without a rebuttal to what I said.

The jingoism comment was towards those unreasoned statements about reincarnation, which were not defended, but assumed to be true simply because they wanted them to be.

**Frigg Stuyvesant**

River of Life Wrote:

I dare you to open your minds!

Would you dare to extend the same courtesy to another's point of view?

Don't speak falsely.

**Ask Jesus**

Frigg Stuyvesant Wrote:

River of Life Wrote:
I dare you to open your minds!

Would you dare to extend the same courtesy to another's point of view?

Don't speak falsely.

Of course, freewill and the choice of what you believe is yours and every bodies. So by all means express your viewpoint

**Ask Jesus**

Nolo Wrote:

Quote:Quote:
"the grand deception that the adversary has"

So are you saying that there has not been a great deception that has took place? Please explain your position!

Never said that at all...deception abounds.
(You've never read my sig?)

...and like I said, all I had time to answer was the assertion that reincarnation was some sort of 'law'.
I provided my points on why it was unlikely from several angles, foolishly hoping for some sort of equivalent reasoned response that would counter and answer those points...and instead...

Well, anyway there was mention of deception, but like I said, I didn't get around to discussing it, because the OP's foundational point was still hanging there without a rebuttal to what I said.

The jingoism comment was towards those unreasoned statements about reincarnation, which were not defended, but assumed to be true simply because they wanted them to be.

You can believe anything about reincarnation that you want. I know from first hand experience that reincarnation is a fact.

There is nothing I can provide as proof except my first hand testimony which I swear to the Creator (even after being told that it is wise not to do so) is the truth "so help me God"

**brommas**

River of Life Wrote:

I dare you to open your minds!

All of you!

For some I challenge you to think for yourself s and make your own decisions for the first time in your lives!

For others I say Please Know the Truth There is no box!

Allow yourself a peek at reality, I assure you there is nothing to fear!

For others I say acquire common sense!

Even if you have to pay someone to teach you what it is!

For the rest, it causes me great grief to think about them, so I can't give practical advise further.

Please pay attention. I am going to explain to you how the adversary uses the same lie to deceive the religions of the world, as he does to control those who he has tricked into believing his lie and serve him.

The exact same lie, word for word. The adversary's intelligence is impossible for the human mind to grasp.

That lie that he has used to steal the game with a passing thought and move on to other things is this

That you are going to burn in Hell on Judgement Day, if you don't bow down before whatever version of God they are trying to sell you in all religions to become saved

And believe me! they are selling it to you!

So the grand deception that the adversary has duped the Human Race with is that you only get this one chance, fail and you will burn in Hell and live in torment for eternity.

And so everyone believes Judgement Day is the last day of your life or shortly thereafter

To those who he has tricked into serving him, he tells them the same thing

"On Judgement Day you are going to be thrown into the lake of fire to be tormented for eternity!

This keeps them trapped in a state of mind where they believe that the Planetary
Ascension that is coming, must be stopped at all cost.

They have been deceived into believing that this event coincides with Judgement day.

Another one of the adversary's lies

They work tirelessly against all of you around the clock without ever ceasing.

Some of them have been doing it for Millenniums, and they do play most of you like a musical instrument

To all of you I say do not believe the lie any longer.

Now you KNOW Truth!

Reincarnation is a Spiritual Law!

Nothing stands in it's way because, it's just the way it is!

To believe any thing else is just foolishness

The adversary is a LIAR!! And that is his weakness.

You now have a glimpse of how the adversary operates.

I urge you to contemplate these words carefully.

Your Creator, who is your Father never gives up on his Children, never ever!

You must realize not that not one has EVER been lost!

That is another Spiritual Law, but some of you have been believing the lie for so long, that you are not able to accept the truth any longer.

Well I can assure you that when the Planetary Ascension occurs, that this event is nothing less than Second Coming of Christ!

And all of you will be transformed in an instant and there is absolutely nothing in all of your Fathers Kingdom which is far beyond Human comprehension, that can stop it.

To 144,000 of you I say

You volunteered to be here at this time and furthermore you were Elected!

Remember who you are!

The time for doing what you came here to do is now!

I anchor a living ray to this place and open the valve and now the Living Water of Truth flows into the world.

The coming times ahead will be times where decisions will force themselves to be made

For some of you, I say no longer will the procrastinator be able to put off till tomorrow what must be done today

For your very life will depend on what you do each day, and you will learn your lesson in your Father's school of hard knocks.

Let me be perfectly clear, nothing can stop the coming Golden Age from manifesting, nothing.

The irony of the situation is

We could already be living in it

I would take you maw seriosleeey if yow cud spel proppppppppper lik wot i du.

**mstra** lop guest User ID: 95108 05-07-2012 05:30 PM

Nolo Wrote:

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You are free to wish and plan and live as if the desires of the Deity have no relevancy...but by the same token, once you've gotten that, just how skilled are you at creating reality? One that will support you once the Creator you removed yourself from is no longer there to provide such things?

And, from another post in this thread by the same:

"just mindless sheep repetition of the same old tired newageweenie pseudo revelation."

So lets see, if a person believes in reincarnation, which was provably a doctrine of the Christian churches up to the time of Theodora (Justinian's wife) who decided she wanted to be worshiped as a saint/goddess after her death and unleashed the full power of the Roman empire toward the task of seeking out and destroying all references to said doctrine in all its forms, then one is denying or removing themselves from the Creator? And anyone who goes back to the accepted doctrine of the early church before its corruption by the Romans is guilty of "mindless sheep repetition of the same old tired newageweenie pseudo revelation"? Because only the corrupted Roman version that is all you have ever been allowed can possibly be correct, and anyone who doesn't believe as you do has removed their self from the Creator?

There is nothing remotely logical in that line of thought, only thinly veiled threats which you have attempted to reinforce with name calling.

I guess it is possible that you are that ignorant of the history of christianity, but that is no excuse, especially from someone who is attempting to portray their self as a thinker. Why do you suppose the Roman church put so much effort into destroying the Cathars in the 13th Century, when that nasty reincarnation doctrine of the early church surfaced again?. Why were they such a threat that the only answer was genocide by the church?

As is normal from those whose only real agenda is forcing their unquestioned ideology on others, you resort to the thinly veiled threat that your "god" will deny and punish all those who don't follow the limited doctrine you have been told is and have unquestioningly accepted as the one and only possible truth. It doesn't matter how you attempt to disguise it, you are pushing the same tired dogma:

"I'm right, you are wrong, and when Daddy comes back you are going to get a spanking. Don't say I didn't warn you."

BTW, the forced reincarnation of souls, which you are subject to until you learn better or something else intervenes, IS subject to the laws of conservation of energy because the memories and emotional energy that you are stripped of after death serves as food for those keeping you trapped in ignorance and slavery here on the prison farm. Being so proud of unquestioningly accepting the mainstream dogma of the religious culture you were born into doesn't bode well for your chances of breaking the cycle. Not that I much care; I would tend to agree with the Creator and let you continue until you get a bellyfull and are ready to move on.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 90475 05-07-2012 05:55 PM

River of Life Wrote:

To 144,000 of you I say

Sounds like more jewish bullshit to me..