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The cunning intelligence of the adversary
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The cunning intelligence of the adversary
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I dare you to open your minds!

All of you!

For some I challenge you to think for yourself s and make your own decisions for the first time in your lives!

For others I say Please Know the Truth There is no box!

Allow yourself a peek at reality, I assure you there is nothing to fear!

For others I say acquire common sense!

Even if you have to pay someone to teach you what it is!

For the rest, it causes me great grief to think about them, so I can't give practical advise further.

Please pay attention. I am going to explain to you how the adversary uses the same lie to deceive the religions of the world, as he does to control those who he has tricked into believing his lie and serve him.

The exact same lie, word for word. The adversary's intelligence is impossible for the human mind to grasp.

That lie that he has used to steal the game with a passing thought and move on to other things is this

That you are going to burn in Hell on Judgement Day, if you don't bow down before whatever version of God they are trying to sell you in all religions to become saved

And believe me! they are selling it to you!

So the grand deception that the adversary has duped the Human Race with is that you only get this one chance, fail and you will burn in Hell and live in torment for eternity.

And so everyone believes Judgement Day is the last day of your life or shortly thereafter

To those who he has tricked into serving him, he tells them the same thing

"On Judgement Day you are going to be thrown into the lake of fire to be tormented for eternity!

This keeps them trapped in a state of mind where they believe that the Planetary
Ascension that is coming, must be stopped at all cost.

They have been deceived into believing that this event coincides with Judgement day.

Another one of the adversary's lies

They work tirelessly against all of you around the clock without ever ceasing.

Some of them have been doing it for Millenniums, and they do play most of you like a musical instrument

To all of you I say do not believe the lie any longer.

Now you KNOW Truth!

Reincarnation is a Spiritual Law!

Nothing stands in it's way because, it's just the way it is!

To believe any thing else is just foolishness

The adversary is a LIAR!! And that is his weakness.

You now have a glimpse of how the adversary operates.

I urge you to contemplate these words carefully.

Your Creator, who is your Father never gives up on his Children, never ever!

You must realize not that not one has EVER been lost!

That is another Spiritual Law, but some of you have been believing the lie for so long, that you are not able to accept the truth any longer.

Well I can assure you that when the Planetary Ascension occurs, that this event is nothing less than Second Coming of Christ!

And all of you will be transformed in an instant and there is absolutely nothing in all of your Fathers Kingdom which is far beyond Human comprehension, that can stop it.

To 144,000 of you I say

You volunteered to be here at this time and furthermore you were Elected!

Remember who you are!

The time for doing what you came here to do is now!

I anchor a living ray to this place and open the valve and now the Living Water of Truth flows into the world.

The coming times ahead will be times where decisions will force themselves to be made

For some of you, I say no longer will the procrastinator be able to put off till tomorrow what must be done today

For your very life will depend on what you do each day, and you will learn your lesson in your Father's school of hard knocks.

Let me be perfectly clear, nothing can stop the coming Golden Age from manifesting, nothing.

The irony of the situation is

We could already be living in it

It's not what Life is......It's that Life is!
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RE: The cunning intelligence of the adversary
Close but no cigar.

Reincarnation means you did not break free and they tricked you into the box again and you failed.

We are eternal, there is no need to come back to this hollow place, seek you true nature and follow that.
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RE: The cunning intelligence of the adversary
Cheer
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RE: The cunning intelligence of the adversary
ITT Speculation.
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RE: The cunning intelligence of the adversary
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RE: The cunning intelligence of the adversary
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-11-2012 01:53 AM)
ITT Speculation.

It's all speculation, but some is better than others. This both makes me think and aligns mostly with my experience.

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abduct RE: The cunning intelligence of the adversary
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RE: The cunning intelligence of the adversary
Yeah, uh, very nice. Inspiring, really. Could you please explain the green letter links though? I know I'm a dummy but it sure looks like the purpose was to slip in links and not illuminate us with your profundities.
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RE: The cunning intelligence of the adversary
smerve  Wrote: (04-11-2012 01:57 AM)
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RE: The cunning intelligence of the adversary
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-11-2012 02:03 AM)
Yeah, uh, very nice. Inspiring, really. Could you please explain the green letter links though? I know I'm a dummy but it sure looks like the purpose was to slip in links and not illuminate us with your profundities.

Random silly links the forum makes now.

Advertising revenue to keep it online I suppose.
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RE: The cunning intelligence of the adversary
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I am not taking sides in this. It is not my fight.
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RE: The cunning intelligence of the adversary
I would start with the concept of infinity and how that would apply to reincarnation...not in any religious or supernatural terms, but using what we know of logic and mathematics, the nature of time both linear and fractal, and human nature as we experience it.

If there has been an endless progression of reincarnations, regressing infinitely past the point we presently occupy, and potentially infinitely into the future; and if we could somehow 'visit' our distant ancestor and our equally distant progeny; we should see a difference in the human condition; IF reincarnation is a mechanism to 'improve'.

I doubt if we would see it.
And the reason is, given how 'close' the claim is that we are preparing to 'ascend', the observable data does not fit the parameter of advancement. We are no more empathic or noble or honorable or kind, as a race, than we were as far back in our recorded history reports. Maybe we've even gotten worse.
Given an infinite time so far, up to this point, it doesn't seem likely that any more infinite time (which is an absurdity in and of itself, like comparing the 'sizes' of the infinite sets of all numbers with that of the infinity of the set of even numbers...it makes no difference) added to it, would make any difference.

A point on an infinite line, positionally, is equivalent to any and all positions points upon that line. There is no 'middle' to measure from, or 'ends' either, so all points would be equal.
That means whatever conditions that you find at any arbitrary measuring point will be repeated at all measuring points.
Infinite means no conclusion, no high point beyond which there is no low point, because if it had been achievable, then it would have developed or happened by random chance an extremely long time ago, and we would not be having this discussion.

Because we have only a eye-blink of a sampling of an infinite time-line, some say a history of a few thousand years, some claim hundreds of thousands of years; and given the known size and age of the universe; and the possibility of other parallel universes; why are we stuck here instead of ascended by now?

That can only be IF reincarnation is an energy conservation cycle like the precipitation cycle in nature.

What we were eons of billions of cycles ago, is what we are now, and what we will be in all the tomorrows afterwords.

That is a cosmos that is both eternal and Creator-less. Or, it is its own grandpa, so to speak.
No Purpose...just a cosmos that goes creaking along forever...little infestations of sentience rising and falling endlessly...the same yesterday, today, and forever.



To me then, the idea of reincarnation is not only meaningless, but would have no 'reason' to have come about, much less for it to have arisen or been incorporated or whatever explanation there may have been for it to exist. But even it were a blind mechanism within the cosmos that circulates sentient material, it's no 'usable' tool for us... other than the meaningless rationalization on the part of sentience to justify its awareness.


Now, if you want to consider a finite cosmos...that had some sort of beginning; then that Beginning would have a 'rationale' or logical reason for its existence, both it and its elements, reincarnation among them.

That begs the question of something coming into being...something from nothing...and for that, the metaphysical has to be taken into account.
And if something like the universe has a beginning, then it's not outside the bounds of speculation to consider it might having an end. Perhaps in repeating cycles, perhaps a one-time shot.

And if the metaphysical has to be used for an explanation for creation, then that brings the question of reincarnation as just one of many competing cosmologies; and not as previously stated, an indisputable 'fact'.

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RE: The cunning intelligence of the adversary
Nolo  Wrote: (04-11-2012 04:05 AM)
I would start with the concept of infinity and how that would apply to reincarnation...not in any religious or supernatural terms, but using what we know of logic and mathematics, the nature of time both linear and fractal, and human nature as we experience it.

If there has been an endless progression of reincarnations, regressing infinitely past the point we presently occupy, and potentially infinitely into the future; and if we could somehow 'visit' our distant ancestor and our equally distant progeny; we should see a difference in the human condition; IF reincarnation is a mechanism to 'improve'.

I doubt if we would see it.
And the reason is, given how 'close' the claim is that we are preparing to 'ascend', the observable data does not fit the parameter of advancement. We are no more empathic or noble or honorable or kind, as a race, than we were as far back in our recorded history reports. Maybe we've even gotten worse.
Given an infinite time so far, up to this point, it doesn't seem likely that any more infinite time (which is an absurdity in and of itself, like comparing the 'sizes' of the infinite sets of all numbers with that of the infinity of the set of even numbers...it makes no difference) added to it, would make any difference.

A point on an infinite line, positionally, is equivalent to any and all positions points upon that line. There is no 'middle' to measure from, or 'ends' either, so all points would be equal.
That means whatever conditions that you find at any arbitrary measuring point will be repeated at all measuring points.
Infinite means no conclusion, no high point beyond which there is no low point, because if it had been achievable, then it would have developed or happened by random chance an extremely long time ago, and we would not be having this discussion.

Because we have only a eye-blink of a sampling of an infinite time-line, some say a history of a few thousand years, some claim hundreds of thousands of years; and given the known size and age of the universe; and the possibility of other parallel universes; why are we stuck here instead of ascended by now?

That can only be IF reincarnation is an energy conservation cycle like the precipitation cycle in nature.

What we were eons of billions of cycles ago, is what we are now, and what we will be in all the tomorrows afterwords.

That is a cosmos that is both eternal and Creator-less. Or, it is its own grandpa, so to speak.
No Purpose...just a cosmos that goes creaking along forever...little infestations of sentience rising and falling endlessly...the same yesterday, today, and forever.



To me then, the idea of reincarnation is not only meaningless, but would have no 'reason' to have come about, much less for it to have arisen or been incorporated or whatever explanation there may have been for it to exist. But even it were a blind mechanism within the cosmos that circulates sentient material, it's no 'usable' tool for us... other than the meaningless rationalization on the part of sentience to justify its awareness.


Now, if you want to consider a finite cosmos...that had some sort of beginning; then that Beginning would have a 'rationale' or logical reason for its existence, both it and its elements, reincarnation among them.

That begs the question of something coming into being...something from nothing...and for that, the metaphysical has to be taken into account.
And if something like the universe has a beginning, then it's not outside the bounds of speculation to consider it might having an end. Perhaps in repeating cycles, perhaps a one-time shot.

And if the metaphysical has to be used for an explanation for creation, then that brings the question of reincarnation as just one of many competing cosmologies; and not as previously stated, an indisputable 'fact'.

I bet you're a blast at parties.
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RE: The cunning intelligence of the adversary
Ozymandias  Wrote: (04-11-2012 04:10 AM)
Nolo  Wrote: (04-11-2012 04:05 AM)
I would start with the concept of infinity and how that would apply to reincarnation...not in any religious or supernatural terms, but using what we know of logic and mathematics, the nature of time both linear and fractal, and human nature as we experience it.

If there has been an endless progression of reincarnations, regressing infinitely past the point we presently occupy, and potentially infinitely into the future; and if we could somehow 'visit' our distant ancestor and our equally distant progeny; we should see a difference in the human condition; IF reincarnation is a mechanism to 'improve'.

I doubt if we would see it.
And the reason is, given how 'close' the claim is that we are preparing to 'ascend', the observable data does not fit the parameter of advancement. We are no more empathic or noble or honorable or kind, as a race, than we were as far back in our recorded history reports. Maybe we've even gotten worse.
Given an infinite time so far, up to this point, it doesn't seem likely that any more infinite time (which is an absurdity in and of itself, like comparing the 'sizes' of the infinite sets of all numbers with that of the infinity of the set of even numbers...it makes no difference) added to it, would make any difference.

A point on an infinite line, positionally, is equivalent to any and all positions points upon that line. There is no 'middle' to measure from, or 'ends' either, so all points would be equal.
That means whatever conditions that you find at any arbitrary measuring point will be repeated at all measuring points.
Infinite means no conclusion, no high point beyond which there is no low point, because if it had been achievable, then it would have developed or happened by random chance an extremely long time ago, and we would not be having this discussion.

Because we have only a eye-blink of a sampling of an infinite time-line, some say a history of a few thousand years, some claim hundreds of thousands of years; and given the known size and age of the universe; and the possibility of other parallel universes; why are we stuck here instead of ascended by now?

That can only be IF reincarnation is an energy conservation cycle like the precipitation cycle in nature.

What we were eons of billions of cycles ago, is what we are now, and what we will be in all the tomorrows afterwords.

That is a cosmos that is both eternal and Creator-less. Or, it is its own grandpa, so to speak.
No Purpose...just a cosmos that goes creaking along forever...little infestations of sentience rising and falling endlessly...the same yesterday, today, and forever.



To me then, the idea of reincarnation is not only meaningless, but would have no 'reason' to have come about, much less for it to have arisen or been incorporated or whatever explanation there may have been for it to exist. But even it were a blind mechanism within the cosmos that circulates sentient material, it's no 'usable' tool for us... other than the meaningless rationalization on the part of sentience to justify its awareness.


Now, if you want to consider a finite cosmos...that had some sort of beginning; then that Beginning would have a 'rationale' or logical reason for its existence, both it and its elements, reincarnation among them.

That begs the question of something coming into being...something from nothing...and for that, the metaphysical has to be taken into account.
And if something like the universe has a beginning, then it's not outside the bounds of speculation to consider it might having an end. Perhaps in repeating cycles, perhaps a one-time shot.

And if the metaphysical has to be used for an explanation for creation, then that brings the question of reincarnation as just one of many competing cosmologies; and not as previously stated, an indisputable 'fact'.

I bet you're a blast at parties.

Actually... it could be worse. And if, 'God' forbid, one were stranded on a desert island... well, Tom Hanks never got that out of a volleyball, I'm sure.

:)

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