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The good christians should spend more time converting bad christians
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 82441 04-21-2012 09:28 PM
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RE: The good christians should spend more time converting bad christians
LoP Guest Wrote:and yet the problem is at epidemic proportions.
. . .to the point where they won't even entertain legitimate appeals from one of their own, because anyone daring to say that the emperor has no clothes is obviously from The Devil
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silent1 Registered User User ID: 76544 04-21-2012 09:30 PM
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RE: The good christians should spend more time converting bad christians
LoP Guest Wrote:IMHO...jesus would be more concerned about bad christians who have infiltrated the church/religion and give it a bad name..then agnostics or aetheists who do not try and act like they are christians.
7 letters to the 7 churches... You will find that judgment is on all
like bringing out the worst in others?
Byte me! I am hungry to pound trash.
... and yet rather than sink to your level I hung up my pen.
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Jessica6 Tired... User ID: 85866 04-21-2012 09:32 PM
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RE: The good christians should spend more time converting bad christians
Yeah, how'd that work out for the Cathars?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catharism
Quote:In Cathar texts, the terms "Good Men" (Bons Hommes) or "Good Christians" are the common terms of self-identification.
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(This post was last modified: 04-21-2012 09:32 PM by Jessica6.)
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 82441 04-21-2012 09:37 PM
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RE: The good christians should spend more time converting bad christians
MAD HATTER Wrote:LoP Guest Wrote:MAD HATTER Wrote:now that sounds cult-ish.you don't sound like a Christian, with things like calling yourself a Christer and referring to self-death which sounds like suicide to me. you're either lying to try to be cute, or you're one of the reasons we get into arguments with non-believers. either way, you come off weird.
It's not suicide. Some call it ego-death. Either way, it's what the new testament calls the "circumcision of the heart". Scripture tells us to reckon the old man dead, yes? If we don't do that, Christ has no place to sit, and we remain as obnoxious as we were before He showed up, just with a different flavor.
are you a snake handler? im trying to figure out your logic, it doesn't sound like anything i have ever heard.i dont know , wherever you learned that it just doesn't sound right.
Christianity Inc. teaches that reciting an incantation does the trick, but it doesn't. "Giving your heart to Jesus" barely scratches the surface. The reason people view christianity as such a joke is because we're just a bunch of talk. We're generally nothing like our message. However, being refined as we walk with God can change that, if we're willing to admit that something is massively wrong somewhere. You've read all that stuff in the epistles about being purified by fiery trials, yes? Such a thing is not optional - it's absolutely vital to being molded into the image of Christ (becoming more like Him).
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 82441 04-21-2012 09:41 PM
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RE: The good christians should spend more time converting bad christians
You're familiar with the Pharisees, right? Christianity is riddled with Pharisaism. We concern ourselves with such meaningless externals and neglect the stuff that matters. We largely know nothing of accepting people however they are or blessing our enemies or turning the other cheek.
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 42015 04-21-2012 09:42 PM
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RE: The good christians should spend more time converting bad christians
LoP Guest Wrote:into good christians, instead of them spending so much time trying to engage non believers.
Agreed. They should clean their house by revealing their many secrets, root out entrenched dogma and criminalize pedo's. That would make Christians proud.
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silent1 Registered User User ID: 76544 04-21-2012 09:43 PM
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RE: The good christians should spend more time converting bad christians
LoP Guest Wrote:20/20 vision Wrote:LoP Guest Wrote:into good christians, instead of them spending so much time trying to engage non believers.
a bad Christian at least is looking in the right direction. It is those who refuse to seek God that are in the most need... leaving the flock to find the one lost sheep, remember?
Disagree.
the term " Bad christian" shouldnt exist. Its a oxymoron..and yet the problem is at epidemic proportions.
I agree, however look at the topic. I replied
like bringing out the worst in others?
Byte me! I am hungry to pound trash.
... and yet rather than sink to your level I hung up my pen.
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HardTruth Get your wisdom on or GTFO of the way User ID: 91262 04-21-2012 09:53 PM
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RE: The good christians should spend more time converting bad christians
The Comedian Wrote:HardTruth Wrote:All of you, biblically entitled to be judges juries and executioners.....lol, how pathetic!!
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So what justification do you use for being so judgmental, but avoiding the classification of hypocrite?
Judge not, lest YOU BE JUDGED, simple.. isn't it!!
I have removed myself from the divide and conquer BS games of TPTB!!
I do not embrace any religion whose sole intent is the fomenting of fear and judgmentalism!!
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If it seeketh, expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
If an entity were not judgmental and if an entity were not controlling then it would have no need to be either just nor "merciful" in the first place now would it!? - Cosmah
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 91729 04-21-2012 09:55 PM
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RE: The good christians should spend more time converting bad christians
Good Christians, whatever that means, and bad Christians, whatever that means, should spend time figuring out that Paul is a lying bastard.
So To all the good and bad Christians, I say, Repent, the kingdom of YHVH is at hand. Seek the Most High, clean your own eyes before preaching to those who don't want to be preached to. Lead through example and be willing to share to the willing. This was Yahushua's example for you. He let the people gather to him and not the other way around.
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 82441 04-21-2012 09:57 PM
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RE: The good christians should spend more time converting bad christians
LoP Guest Wrote:So To all the good and bad Christians, I say, Repent, the kingdom of YHVH is at hand. Seek the Most High, clean your own eyes before preaching to those who don't want to be preached to. Lead through example and be willing to share to the willing. This was Yahushua's example for you. He let the people gather to him and not the other way around.
Agreed
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AC488 I got no balls User ID: 488 04-21-2012 10:00 PM
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RE: The good christians should spend more time converting bad christians
MAD HATTER Wrote:As Christians we help each other through hard times and such. What your calling bad Christians are just Christians that are pushy. there is no fixing them when there is nothing wrong. Atheists are pushy and rude, not all of them but some of them. Agnostics i dont know about. and the people who like to complain about religion and how there is no God but refuse to be called Atheists or Agnostics, well they are assholes.
People love to judge other people. even Christians. they are all gossipy and pushy that shit is irritating. I firmly believe judging people is wicked and sinful. i believe that no human being has the mental capacity to judge another human being for anything. Only God has the power to judge.
How can anyone take anything you say seriously and not be disgusted? Read your comments above that I bolded. You are a hypocrite and are willing to call people who don't believe in God and/or don't define themselves as athiests or (a)gnostics as assholes and yet you say there are no bad Christians, only pushy Christians. Why can't you find it in yourself to call the bad, hypocritical, pushy Christians assholes? Is it because you would have to call yourself an asshole? The judgemental stance of Christians like you gives all Christians a bad name and why so many people see Christianity as a f*cking joke.
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 91725 04-22-2012 02:20 AM
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RE: The good christians should spend more time converting bad christians
AC488 Wrote:MAD HATTER Wrote:As Christians we help each other through hard times and such. What your calling bad Christians are just Christians that are pushy. there is no fixing them when there is nothing wrong. Atheists are pushy and rude, not all of them but some of them. Agnostics i dont know about. and the people who like to complain about religion and how there is no God but refuse to be called Atheists or Agnostics, well they are assholes.
People love to judge other people. even Christians. they are all gossipy and pushy that shit is irritating. I firmly believe judging people is wicked and sinful. i believe that no human being has the mental capacity to judge another human being for anything. Only God has the power to judge.
How can anyone take anything you say seriously and not be disgusted? Read your comments above that I bolded. You are a hypocrite and are willing to call people who don't believe in God and/or don't define themselves as athiests or (a)gnostics as assholes and yet you say there are no bad Christians, only pushy Christians. Why can't you find it in yourself to call the bad, hypocritical, pushy Christians assholes? Is it because you would have to call yourself an asshole? The judgemental stance of Christians like you gives all Christians a bad name and why so many people see Christianity as a f*cking joke.

this is the sickness of the culties....they are unable to see their own endless paradoxs and hypocrisies and judgements.
they are the epitome of ignoring the very things their religions commands them to be.
its a really sad sickness.
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 91725 04-22-2012 06:01 AM
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RE: The good christians should spend more time converting bad christians
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The Comedian Philosophizer User ID: 91846 04-22-2012 08:43 AM
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RE: The good christians should spend more time converting bad christians
HardTruth Wrote:The Comedian Wrote:HardTruth Wrote:All of you, biblically entitled to be judges juries and executioners.....lol, how pathetic!!
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So what justification do you use for being so judgmental, but avoiding the classification of hypocrite?
Judge not, lest YOU BE JUDGED, simple.. isn't it!!
I have removed myself from the divide and conquer BS games of TPTB!!
I do not embrace any religion whose sole intent is the fomenting of fear and judgmentalism!!
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Re-read what you wrote in bold, and answer the question without any of your personal Don Quixote fantasy bullshit.
You judged Christians as "pathetic executioners".
Once you realize what a joke everything is,
being the Comedian is the only thing that makes sense.
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 91725 04-22-2012 03:09 PM
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RE: The good christians should spend more time converting bad christians
The Comedian Wrote:HardTruth Wrote:The Comedian Wrote:So what justification do you use for being so judgmental, but avoiding the classification of hypocrite?
Judge not, lest YOU BE JUDGED, simple.. isn't it!!
I have removed myself from the divide and conquer BS games of TPTB!!
I do not embrace any religion whose sole intent is the fomenting of fear and judgmentalism!!
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Re-read what you wrote in bold, and answer the question without any of your personal Don Quixote fantasy bullshit.
You judged Christians as "pathetic executioners".
Since Hardtruth doesnt subscribe to the agendas of religions, he isnt obligated to abide by the command of " thou shall not judge others" .
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