Post: #91

HardTruth  Wrote:

Gotcha!  Wrote:

HardTruth  Wrote:

It doesn't bother me, until I see folks being brow beat into submission by the mentally ill!!

If it is not about you, then you need to mind your own business and let other people make their own choices. Whether you agree with them or not.

Preaching on a non religious site, how is that minding your own buisness?



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Its funny you mention preaching because you posted all this......................

Fraud in the Bible or It Sucks That You Don't Know Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic

Pious Fraud in Translation

Let's take a look at the very first words of the book of Genesis. Note very carefully that the Hebrew culture, at the time of this writing, was not monothestic, but rather, polytheistic. Will your priest, minister or preacher tell you that? No. But you can find out for yourself with a simple dictionary.

The Hebrew word for God is el; the plural is elohim, gods. What is the first sentence in the Bible?

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth" (Gen. 1:1).

Here is Genesis 1:1 in Hebrew (transliterated into the Latin alphabet, of course):

"Bereshith bara elohim," etc.,

"In-beginning created (the) gods (the) heavens and (the) earth."

In the same chapter the word "elohim" (gods) is used thirty times., Those gods are the ones who created the 'universe' in 6 days.

To clarify, here is the translation of the Hebrew text of Genesis 1. Notice how Jewish and Christian 'fathers' don't bother to tell you what the original text says. They would like you to believe that a single god created everything. But, they messed up big time and actually translated it properly. In plain English, the translation reads 'let us make man in our image':

Here are three examples of the Hebrew plural gods mentioned in Genesis: 1. "And-said elohim (gods), let-US-make man (adam) in-image-OUR, after-likeness-OUR" (1:26).

2. And when "adam" had eaten of the forbidden fruit of the tree of knowledge, "the Lord God" said, "Behold, the-man has become like one of US, to know good and evil" (3:27).

3. And when the Tower of Babel was being built: "The Lord [Heb. Yahveh] said ... Come, let US go down," etc.

When speaking of the Hebrew deity, Yahveh, elohim, (gods) is used in the Hebrew texts, The plural elohim is used 2570 times. It is always falsely translated to the singular "God", thus falsely making us believe that this text was written at a time when the Hebrew people were monothestic, when it clearly is the case (written at least 2570 times, no less!) that they WERE NOT.

In the three Genesis verses above, there are three different designations of the Hebrew deity or deities: elohim, (gods), falsely translated "God":

Lord God (Heb. Yahveh-elohim); and Lord (Heb. Yahveh). Yahveh is the proper name of the Hebrew God, which, in English, is Jehovah.

Yahveh-elohim is a Hebrew "construct-form" which is translated to "Yahveh-of-the-gods." Invariably these personal names were falsely translated "Lord" and "Lord God," respectively, for purposes of pious fraud.

First Man, First Woman

There was no first man "Adam," according to the Hebrew text. The word adam in Hebrew is a common noun, meaning man in a generic sense and in Genesis 1:26, it states:

"And elohim (gods) said, Let us make adam (man)"; and so "elohim created ha- adam (the-man); ... male and female created he them" (1: 27).

In the second creation story, where man is first made alone:

"Yahveh formed ha-adam (the-man) out of the dust of ha-adamah-the ground" (2:7).

Jesus wasnt the only begooten son either!!

Post: #92

Cosmah  Wrote:

Gotcha!  Wrote:

HardTruth  Wrote:

It doesn't bother me, until I see folks being brow beat into submission by the mentally ill!!

If it is not about you, then you need to mind your own business and let other people make their own choices. Whether you agree with them or not.

See someone raping someone else, 'you need to "mind your own business"' because "it's not about you" ? Hm?

Nobody is raping anyone. If you want an example of rape then we can look at the history of persecution of christians since the Roman Empire through today.

Post: #93

Let me spell it out LOAD and CLEAR:

Religious solicitation is simply another form of marketing!

Are marketing messages allowed on this website? NO!

To those trying to sell their religion here I say: Go peddle your snake oil elsewhere.

Do not misunderstand me, as I know a number would really, really 'like' to: I have nothing 'against' anyone believing in whatever they choose, religion, fairy tales, ideologies, etc, etc: I have no issue with someone discussing their religion, either, just as I have no issue with someone discussing any product, but when it comes to trying to marketing it on a DISCUSSION forum, I say: Peddle it it elsewhere!

I hope those who haven't "gotten it" yet, do.

Cosmah

Post: #94

Cosmah  Wrote:

Let me spell it out LOAD and CLEAR:

Religious solicitation is simply another form of marketing!

Are marketing messages allowed on this website? NO!

To those trying to sell their religion here I say: Go peddle your snake oil elsewhere.

Do not misunderstand me, as I know a number would really, really 'like' to: I have nothing 'against' anyone believing in whatever they choose, religion, fairy tales, ideologies, etc, etc: I have no issue with someone discussing their religion, either, just as I have no issue with someone discussing any product, but when it comes to trying to marketing it on a DISCUSSION forum, I say: Peddle it it elsewhere!

I hope those who haven't "gotten it" yet, do.

Cosmah

I didn't sell anything. Where is the price tag? Where did anyone mention a church to attend and to donate anywhere? Nope you are getting petty now in your attempt to silence the truth of the Christ.

Post: #95

LoP Guest  Wrote:

Cosmah  Wrote:

Gotcha!  Wrote:

If it is not about you, then you need to mind your own business and let other people make their own choices. Whether you agree with them or not.

See someone raping someone else, 'you need to "mind your own business"' because "it's not about you" ? Hm?

Nobody is raping anyone. If you want an example of rape then we can look at the history of persecution of christians since the Roman Empire through today.

Christian were persecuted, but they're not being persecuted today in the Western World, now are they? Christian persecution is no the subject here now is it though?

Unsolicited marketing is a form of subjecting people to emotional torture. Don't spew any unsolicited marketing messages and I'm sure we'll all get along just fine.

Post: #96

Cosmah  Wrote:

Let me spell it out LOAD and CLEAR:

Religious solicitation is simply another form of marketing!

Are marketing messages allowed on this website? NO!

To those trying to sell their religion here I say: Go peddle your snake oil elsewhere.

Do not misunderstand me, as I know a number would really, really 'like' to: I have nothing 'against' anyone believing in whatever they choose, religion, fairy tales, ideologies, etc, etc: I have no issue with someone discussing their religion, either, just as I have no issue with someone discussing any product, but when it comes to trying to marketing it on a DISCUSSION forum, I say: Peddle it it elsewhere!

I hope those who haven't "gotten it" yet, do.

Cosmah

you're pushing your beliefs but its ok because its your belief right hypocrisy at its finest and may I remind you this thread is anti-religion you idiot

Post: #97

Cosmah  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

Cosmah  Wrote:

See someone raping someone else, 'you need to "mind your own business"' because "it's not about you" ? Hm?

Nobody is raping anyone. If you want an example of rape then we can look at the history of persecution of christians since the Roman Empire through today.

Christian were persecuted, but they're not being persecuted today in the Western World, now are they? Christian persecution is no the subject here now is it though?

Unsolicited marketing is a form of subjecting people to emotional torture. Don't spew any unsolicited marketing messages and I'm sure we'll all get along just fine.

wtf do you call this thread

Post: #98

LoP Guest  Wrote:

Cosmah  Wrote:

Let me spell it out LOAD and CLEAR:

Religious solicitation is simply another form of marketing!

Are marketing messages allowed on this website? NO!

To those trying to sell their religion here I say: Go peddle your snake oil elsewhere.

Do not misunderstand me, as I know a number would really, really 'like' to: I have nothing 'against' anyone believing in whatever they choose, religion, fairy tales, ideologies, etc, etc: I have no issue with someone discussing their religion, either, just as I have no issue with someone discussing any product, but when it comes to trying to marketing it on a DISCUSSION forum, I say: Peddle it it elsewhere!

I hope those who haven't "gotten it" yet, do.

Cosmah

I didn't sell anything. Where is the price tag? Where did anyone mention a church to attend and to donate anywhere? Nope you are getting petty now in your attempt to silence the truth of the Christ.

You clearly don't "get it". Selling something to someone doesn't necessarily involve the use of legal tender.

Post: #99

LoP Guest  Wrote:

Cosmah  Wrote:

Gotcha!  Wrote:

If it is not about you, then you need to mind your own business and let other people make their own choices. Whether you agree with them or not.

See someone raping someone else, 'you need to "mind your own business"' because "it's not about you" ? Hm?

Nobody is raping anyone. If you want an example of rape then we can look at the history of persecution of christians since the Roman Empire through today.

Mental rape is where you are raped of your common knowledge or knowledge of your current life and have it taken from you and replaced with someone else's information done out of fear and abuse without your consent and willing participation.

It is a terrible way to be converted into a way of life due to social stigmatisms rather than how you see fit to live your life. I have known many different groups religious and non religious that use this method to "conform to the norm". When you are abused mentally and physically you will accept what the majority is telling you just to make it stop. I am sorry if this has ever happened to you or anyone for that matter.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?...120AA5Od0J


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Post: #100

ĶĨĽĿŨМľŃǺŢľ  Wrote:

Cosmah  Wrote:

Let me spell it out LOAD and CLEAR:

Religious solicitation is simply another form of marketing!

Are marketing messages allowed on this website? NO!

To those trying to sell their religion here I say: Go peddle your snake oil elsewhere.

Do not misunderstand me, as I know a number would really, really 'like' to: I have nothing 'against' anyone believing in whatever they choose, religion, fairy tales, ideologies, etc, etc: I have no issue with someone discussing their religion, either, just as I have no issue with someone discussing any product, but when it comes to trying to marketing it on a DISCUSSION forum, I say: Peddle it it elsewhere!

I hope those who haven't "gotten it" yet, do.

Cosmah

you're pushing your beliefs but its ok because its your belief right hypocrisy at its finest and may I remind you this thread is anti-religion you idiot

I push no belief. In fact, I am very, very much anti-belief of any kind!

Post: #101

It is amusing that people who are against preaching can always be found on threads about religion.

Post: #102

ĶĨĽĿŨМľŃǺŢľ  Wrote:

Cosmah  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

Nobody is raping anyone. If you want an example of rape then we can look at the history of persecution of christians since the Roman Empire through today.

Christian were persecuted, but they're not being persecuted today in the Western World, now are they? Christian persecution is no the subject here now is it though?

Unsolicited marketing is a form of subjecting people to emotional torture. Don't spew any unsolicited marketing messages and I'm sure we'll all get along just fine.

wtf do you call this thread

I don't see the OP trying to sell anything. For better or for worse, he/she appears to be responding to a religious marketing message.

Post: #103

Gotcha!  Wrote:

It is amusing that people who are against preaching can always be found on threads about religion.

Someone has to save the real god from the ignorant christians!!


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Post: #104

Gotcha!  Wrote:

It is amusing that people who are against preaching can always be found on threads about religion.

Yes, just as people who are against rape can be found on threads against rape. Does that "make them rapists"? Really, give me a break.

Post: #105

Cosmah  Wrote:

ĶĨĽĿŨМľŃǺŢľ  Wrote:

Cosmah  Wrote:

Christian were persecuted, but they're not being persecuted today in the Western World, now are they? Christian persecution is no the subject here now is it though?

Unsolicited marketing is a form of subjecting people to emotional torture. Don't spew any unsolicited marketing messages and I'm sure we'll all get along just fine.

wtf do you call this thread

I don't see the OP trying to sell anything. For better or for worse, he/she appears to be responding to a religious marketing message.

anybody from the outside looking in can see how laughably ignorant you truly are