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**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 110907 08-04-2012 07:01 PM

KlLLUMINATI Wrote:

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KlLLUMINATI Wrote:
your gona tell people what they believe and then tell the same people that they are wrong. are you a JW?

You make what you believe obvious. You know this. My words cannot do anything. Only the Holy Spirit can change a heart. I am tired of this. Maybe he will work on you now.

Maybe you will listen to him. I have failed.

Listen to you why? Someone challenges you and you do nothing but close your ears. You're not listening to them why would they listen to you? This is a bait thread and just as bad as any other just to get your kicks for some messed up reason.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

I do not care of you listen to me. But if you close your ears to the above.

**HardTruth**

Such a sad state of affairs, that such religions still continue there deception of the masses, having them looking outwards for a savior, instead of inwards where the spiritual kingdom has always been!!

Heartflowers

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~~I┴∀NIW∩˥˥Iʞ~~

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KlLLUMINATI Wrote:
LoP Guest Wrote:
You make what you believe obvious. You know this. My words cannot do anything. Only the Holy Spirit can change a heart. I am tired of this. Maybe he will work on you now.

Maybe you will listen to him. I have failed.

Listen to you why? Someone challenges you and you do nothing but close your ears. You're not listening to them why would they listen to you? This is a bait thread and just as bad as any other just to get your kicks for some messed up reason.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

I do not care of you listen to me. But if you close your ears to the above.

"'Behold, I am against the prophets,' says the Lord, "who use their tongues and say, ‘He says.’ Behold, I am against those who prophesy false dreams,' says the Lord, 'and... cause My people to err by their lies and by their recklessness. Yet I did not send them or command them...."
-Jeremiah 23:30-32

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 110907 08-04-2012 07:07 PM

RedwoodPerch Wrote:

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Apparently this one flew right over your head. Ya think?

Go to church, watch christians pray, listen to them speak. I see many of them interpreting his death as an excuse to continue their sinful way. You all need to stop worshipping an "Idol". The "Idol" being... the misinterpretation of why Jesus died.

It was a message.

I habe been to church. What you do not understand about church is that satan runs the churches. They are freemason run. They are stealth satanist run. All organized denominations are fake, pal. All babylonian.

The Bible calls it the APOSTSIA. Get it? The way you describe churcjes was predicted by the Bible. LAODICEA is what it is called.

There's no need for you to tell me what I understand. I am just stating a viewpoint that apparently is being misunderstood. When I say 'Jesus'... I am not referring to the church. Jesus did exist and Jesus did die. My point is that the death of Jesus has been misinterpreted to benefit the church. He did not die so I can swing my willie around without consequences. He died because he tried to live an honest and righteous life while trying to make this world a better place.

2 Corinthians 5:15 And that he (Christ) died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.

Christ did not try. He is God. He was and is sinless. The "world" is doomed.

Christ did not come to make the world a better place. The world is under the curse. Christ came to:

"seek that which was lost, and bring again that which was driven away, and will bind up that which was broken, and will strengthen that which was sick: but I will destroy the fat and the strong; I will feed them with judgment." Ezekiel 34:16

**Pope Frank**

LoP Guest Wrote:

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

I do not care of you listen to me. But if you close your ears to the above.

Lets look at this belief. Is this a belief that revolves death or is it a belief about how he lived?

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 110907 08-04-2012 07:09 PM

KlLLUMINATI Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
KlLLUMINATI Wrote:
Listen to you why? Someone challenges you and you do nothing but close your ears. You're not listening to them why would they listen to you? This is a bait thread and just as bad as any other just to get your kicks for some messed up reason.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

I do not care of you listen to me. But if you close your ears to the above.

"'Behold, I am against the prophets,' says the Lord, "who use their tongues and say, ‘He says.’ Behold, I am against those who prophesy false dreams,' says the Lord, 'and... cause My people to err by their lies and by their recklessness. Yet I did not send them or command them...."
-Jeremiah 23:30-32

So he is agianst John 3:16 you say? So you reveal yourself to be an enemy of Christ because you hate his word and you misquote his word to destroy it.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 110907 08-04-2012 07:10 PM

RedwoodPerch Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

I do not care of you listen to me. But if you close your ears to the above.

Lets look at this belief. Is this a belief that revolves death or is it a belief about how he lived?

Get thee behind me satan.

**Pope Frank**

LoP Guest Wrote:

RedwoodPerch Wrote:
LoP Guest Wrote:
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

I do not care of you listen to me. But if you close your ears to the above.

Lets look at this belief. Is this a belief that revolves death or is it a belief about how he lived?

Get thee behind me satan.

That's pretty shallow. Isn't Satan all about keeping people in the dark? It doesn't seem like you're adding any light to this conversation.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 110907 08-04-2012 07:15 PM

RedwoodPerch Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
RedwoodPerch Wrote:
Lets look at this belief. Is this a belief that revolves death or is it a belief about how he lived?

Get thee behind me satan.

That's pretty shallow. Isn't Satan all about keeping people in the dark? It doesn't seem like you're adding any light to this conversation.

"Lets look at this belief. Is this a belief that revolves death or is it a belief about how he lived?"

That is the epitome of shallow. A red herring load of crap that sheds no light and only throws up a straw man.

As I said, get the behind me, Satan.

~~I┴∀NIW∩˥˥Iʞ~~

LoP Guest Wrote:

KlLLUMINATI Wrote:
LoP Guest Wrote:
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

I do not care of you listen to me. But if you close your ears to the above.

"'Behold, I am against the prophets,' says the Lord, "who use their tongues and say, ‘He says.’ Behold, I am against those who prophesy false dreams,' says the Lord, 'and... cause My people to err by their lies and by their recklessness. Yet I did not send them or command them...."
-Jeremiah 23:30-32

So he is agianst John 3:16 you say? So you reveal yourself to be an enemy of Christ because you hate his word and you misquote his word to destroy it.

Christ is the Lord so says the Lord=says Christ.......once again you use tactics made famous by JW's tell people what they believe then tell them what they believe is wrong, its nothing new.

**Vlad**

HardTruth Wrote:

Such a sad state of affairs, that such religions still continue there deception of the masses, having them looking outwards for a savior, instead of inwards where the spiritual kingdom has always been!!

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That I can relate to!, but sometimes Life very harsh, and Religion make some1 go crazy, but also saves many from the same!

Life is a balance!
Ever been to India?

**Pope Frank**

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RedwoodPerch Wrote:
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Get thee behind me satan.

That's pretty shallow. Isn't Satan all about keeping people in the dark? It doesn't seem like you're adding any light to this conversation.

"Lets look at this belief. Is this a belief that revolves death or is it a belief about how he lived?"

That is the epitome of shallow. A red herring load of crap that sheds no light and only throws up a straw man.

As I said, get the behind me, Satan.

And yet... another one flies over your head. Your slander towards me is just a reflection of you really are.

**Vlad**

RedwoodPerch Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
RedwoodPerch Wrote:
Lets look at this belief. Is this a belief that revolves death or is it a belief about how he lived?

Get thee behind me satan.

That's pretty shallow. Isn't Satan all about keeping people in the dark? It doesn't seem like you're adding any light to this conversation.

Satan is needed but not 2 be worshipped I think!
Does it sound logic or mew over the top, and need more Vodka!

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 37860 08-04-2012 07:21 PM

It's one of the big lies of christianity that God sent his son to die for the pathetic sins of humans.

**Geogal**

op. threads purely to proselytise are often considered bait threads here. I hope you are happy in your own faith, but attempts to convert aren't part of what this forum is about. Thanks!