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Try to prove God.
Jay7777777
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02-22-2012 08:50 PM

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Post: #121
RE: Try to prove God.
FreedomStands  Wrote:
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Jeremiah isn't irrelevant. It points out how the scribes wrote false things into the Bible.

I dont want to make this thread a bible discussion, however I dont believe that scripture in Jeremiah means what you claim.

It just points to some scribes at the time being accused of writing falsehood into the Biblical commandments and laws. Maybe these false laws were taken out, but I doubt it, seeing that the Old Testament laws are pretty bad sometimes.

Like I said I dont wish to turn this into a bible thread, we can start a new one if you like.


I have no doubt in my mind that many people down the centurys have tried to mess with the scriptures, (including some so called main stream religions)

Many people were burned at the stake by the catholic church for even trying to translate the bible into the common folks language.

The whys and wherefores are of no interest to me.

If you believe that GOD and its a big if, wanted to write a book such as the bible then we must believe that he has the power to see this through and thwart all the enemies that stand in his way (such as the catholic priests etc) and actuall present to us in essence the message he wanted to.

Looking at it objectively you would expect his message to mankind to be readily available and in all languages.
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02-22-2012 08:54 PM

 



Post: #122
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You want prove for what exactly? God is a way to general term.
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LOPastor
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02-22-2012 09:04 PM

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Post: #123
RE: Try to prove God.
Jay7777777  Wrote:
FreedomStands  Wrote:
Jay7777777  Wrote:
I dont want to make this thread a bible discussion, however I dont believe that scripture in Jeremiah means what you claim.

It just points to some scribes at the time being accused of writing falsehood into the Biblical commandments and laws. Maybe these false laws were taken out, but I doubt it, seeing that the Old Testament laws are pretty bad sometimes.

Like I said I dont wish to turn this into a bible thread, we can start a new one if you like.


I have no doubt in my mind that many people down the centurys have tried to mess with the scriptures, (including some so called main stream religions)

Many people were burned at the stake by the catholic church for even trying to translate the bible into the common folks language.

The whys and wherefores are of no interest to me.

If you believe that GOD and its a big if, wanted to write a book such as the bible then we must believe that he has the power to see this through and thwart all the enemies that stand in his way (such as the catholic priests etc) and actuall present to us in essence the message he wanted to.

Looking at it objectively you would expect his message to mankind to be readily available and in all languages.

There are lots of translation projects going on right now to get the Bible into the some odd 6 to 7 thousand languages in the world. My avatar picture "Da Jesus Book" is one of those.

"Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever. Amen." 1 Timothy 1:17

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB-FoOoGu3Y

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Post: #124
RE: Try to prove God.
MorningMist  Wrote:
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Well now, that's not so hard a question. Humans definitely descended from the elements. Especially hydrogen and carbon. And humans will ascend from human to element. Especially hydrogen and carbon.

so humans are a deterioration of the process ??

Yes, the human body is a deterioration process. Would you like to talk about the spirit/soul instead?

Energy is neither created or destroyed. :)
the human body ????

we were discussing HUMANS

the 'human body' is off topic to the discussion at hand

but it seems that you believe in a God of some sort don't you with your separation of the spirit/soul from the human body, as that idea has nothing to do with evolution....

or is it something else....
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Post: #125
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so humans are a deterioration of the process ??

Yes, the human body is a deterioration process. Would you like to talk about the spirit/soul instead?

Energy is neither created or destroyed. :)
the human body ????

we were discussing HUMANS

the 'human body' is off topic to the discussion at hand

but it seems that you believe in a God of some sort don't you with your separation of the spirit/soul from the human body, as that idea has nothing to do with evolution....

or is it something else....

Jptdknpa

Very well, carry on.

Sell everything--Buy wisdom.
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02-22-2012 09:06 PM

 



Post: #126
RE: Try to prove God.
LOPastor  Wrote:
There are lots of translation projects going on right now to get the Bible into the some odd 6 to 7 thousand languages in the world. My avatar picture "Da Jesus Book" is one of those.

In the beginning was the word....SPOKEN not written word

Jesus never preached with a book
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Post: #127
RE: Try to prove God.
MorningMist  Wrote:
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Yes, the human body is a deterioration process. Would you like to talk about the spirit/soul instead?

Energy is neither created or destroyed. :)
the human body ????

we were discussing HUMANS

the 'human body' is off topic to the discussion at hand

but it seems that you believe in a God of some sort don't you with your separation of the spirit/soul from the human body, as that idea has nothing to do with evolution....

or is it something else....

Jptdknpa

Very well, carry on.

seriously, what is the source of this human soul/spirit you speak of ??
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LOPastor
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02-22-2012 09:09 PM

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Post: #128
RE: Try to prove God.
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LOPastor  Wrote:
There are lots of translation projects going on right now to get the Bible into the some odd 6 to 7 thousand languages in the world. My avatar picture "Da Jesus Book" is one of those.

In the beginning was the word....SPOKEN not written word

Jesus never preached with a book

False. Jesus did preach and quote the Old Testament on numerous occasions.

"Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever. Amen." 1 Timothy 1:17

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB-FoOoGu3Y

PM if you have prayer requests! Heartflowers
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Jay7777777
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02-22-2012 09:10 PM

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Post: #129
RE: Try to prove God.
LOPastor  Wrote:
LoP Guest  Wrote:
LOPastor  Wrote:
There are lots of translation projects going on right now to get the Bible into the some odd 6 to 7 thousand languages in the world. My avatar picture "Da Jesus Book" is one of those.

In the beginning was the word....SPOKEN not written word

Jesus never preached with a book

False. Jesus did preach and quote the Old Testament on numerous occasions.

correct!
you beat me to it!
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02-22-2012 09:13 PM

 



Post: #130
RE: Try to prove God.
LOPastor  Wrote:
LoP Guest  Wrote:
LOPastor  Wrote:
There are lots of translation projects going on right now to get the Bible into the some odd 6 to 7 thousand languages in the world. My avatar picture "Da Jesus Book" is one of those.

In the beginning was the word....SPOKEN not written word

Jesus never preached with a book

False. Jesus did preach and quote the Old Testament on numerous occasions.

He referenced BOOKS that were later included in the Old Testament, as the Old testament as a whole didn't exist while Jesus was alive

point is, Jesus never carried books as books and the written word are a secondary source of truth
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02-22-2012 09:14 PM

 



Post: #131
RE: Try to prove God.
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correct!
you beat me to it!

WRONG


He referenced BOOKS that were later included in the Old Testament, as the Old testament as a whole didn't exist while Jesus was alive

point is, Jesus never carried books as books and the written word are a secondary source of truth
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FreedomStands
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02-22-2012 09:15 PM

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Post: #132
RE: Try to prove God.
LOPastor  Wrote:
LoP Guest  Wrote:
LOPastor  Wrote:
There are lots of translation projects going on right now to get the Bible into the some odd 6 to 7 thousand languages in the world. My avatar picture "Da Jesus Book" is one of those.

In the beginning was the word....SPOKEN not written word

Jesus never preached with a book

False. Jesus did preach and quote the Old Testament on numerous occasions.

True! Jesus even told Satan about what is written:

Matthew 4:10
Jesus said to him, "Away from me, Satan! For it is written: 'Worship (perform the kowtow to) the Lord your God, and serve him only.'"

EXPLAINING GOD THROUGH REASON
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02-22-2012 09:16 PM

 



Post: #133
RE: Try to prove God.
do you really think there was a single book when Jesus was alive that was later called the 'Old Testament' ??

seriously....
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02-22-2012 09:18 PM

 



Post: #134
RE: Try to prove God.
FreedomStands  Wrote:
LOPastor  Wrote:
LoP Guest  Wrote:
In the beginning was the word....SPOKEN not written word

Jesus never preached with a book

False. Jesus did preach and quote the Old Testament on numerous occasions.

True!

NO HE DID NOT

he referenced BOOKS, many different BOOKS; these books were later combined into the 'Old Testament'
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Jay7777777
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02-22-2012 09:19 PM

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Post: #135
RE: Try to prove God.
LoP Guest  Wrote:
Jay7777777  Wrote:
correct!
you beat me to it!

WRONG


He referenced BOOKS that were later included in the Old Testament, as the Old testament as a whole didn't exist while Jesus was alive

point is, Jesus never carried books as books and the written word are a secondary source of truth

he quoted from it 84 times, thats how many times we know about.
It seems he regularly discussed scripture with his apostles.

Luke 24:32 speaking of Jesus " And they said to each other: “Were not our hearts burning as he was speaking to us on the road, as he was fully opening up the Scriptures to us?”
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