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**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 64160 02-22-2012 09:49 PM

LoP Guest Wrote:

You read it...

Evolution is a fact, it has been proved, but god is only an unfalsifiable hypothesis.

You have the wrong idea about what God is.

God is not a parental, authority figure, watching your every move and judging it.

You don't know God because you don't truly know your own nature, and your chosen "know-it-all-ism" isn't going to reveal anything to you.

**FreedomStands**

LoP Guest Wrote:

FreedomStands Wrote:
At the time of Jesus, the "Torah" or Tanakh, the Hebrew Bible...existed, and there are records of this.

the Jews as a whole have NEVER been restricted to one single book, ever

Jesus used BOOKS

Ok, Books, is it worth going wild about?

**FreedomStands**

LoP Guest Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
You read it...

Evolution is a fact, it has been proved, but god is only an unfalsifiable hypothesis.

You have the wrong idea about what God is.

God is not a parental, authority figure, watching your every move and judging it.

You don't know God because you don't truly know your own nature, and your chosen "know-it-all-ism" isn't going to reveal anything to you.

God is watching your every move at least.

**The Evil AC** I am not a number!!! User ID: 666 02-22-2012 09:55 PM

FreedomStands Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
LoP Guest Wrote:
You read it...

Evolution is a fact, it has been proved, but god is only an unfalsifiable hypothesis.

You have the wrong idea about what God is.

God is not a parental, authority figure, watching your every move and judging it.

You don't know God because you don't truly know your own nature, and your chosen "know-it-all-ism" isn't going to reveal anything to you.

God is watching your every move at least.

According to you god is every move.

**The Lucky AC** Everything in life is luck User ID: 888 02-22-2012 09:56 PM

LoP Guest Wrote:

The Lucky AC Wrote:
The choice is yours

the choices....the choices

anyways -- as it takes two to create a life on earth, it takes two to create a life in heaven

You got links or sources for that?
Or just a guess/opinion?

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 40036 02-22-2012 09:58 PM

NEESIE Wrote:

seeing the creation proves God, prove it was created by something else.

Creation doesn't explain the origin of the universe better than physics. Both fall short, but at least physics keeps truckin forward with new models and explanations and experiments and observations. The creation story is static and unchanging, it's a shadow of a mystery told around campfires so long ago that we've all forgotten that no human was present to witness the creation/big bang and only humans tell the story.

The only unanswered question to me is the Source. The Origin of all. Not just of this universe, but of the multiverses. The god of Abraham doesn't answer the question, and physics doesn't answer the question. Light workers don't help either. All I am sure of is that I don't know and that lures me.

A thought I like: If the Source is infinite, as I think it would have to be, then all possible universes, all possible outcomes, all possible anythings, must exist but not only exist, they must exist infintely. So, I've written this sentence an infinite number of times, in all possible ways. Assuming that the universe is infinite of course. But if all possibilities must occur in an infinite universe, then that should mean that Buddhists are correct, Christians are correct, Taoists are correct, Hindus are correct, Shamans are correct, and yes, even Lightworkers are correct.

I've digressed

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 67922 02-22-2012 10:01 PM

FreedomStands Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
FreedomStands Wrote:
At the time of Jesus, the "Torah" or Tanakh, the Hebrew Bible...existed, and there are records of this.

the Jews as a whole have NEVER been restricted to one single book, ever

Jesus used BOOKS

Ok, Books, is it worth going wild about?

It is to counter the notion today of the Bible being the only valid book or written source of finding god/God

god/God can be found with a book, with books, or without a book or books

God is all things, except one

anyways, please forgive the brashness of my tone, english language syntax tends to cause dissonance in the mind from time to time

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 67922 02-22-2012 10:04 PM

The Lucky AC Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
The Lucky AC Wrote:
The choice is yours

the choices....the choices

anyways -- as it takes two to create a life on earth, it takes two to create a life in heaven

You got links or sources for that?
Or just a guess/opinion?

links ????

why would one need a link ????

EVERY Christian church believes that....they just put a restriction on who one of the ones is....

'course i was referring to the heaven part, assuming you were not questioning the life on earth part....

**The Lucky AC** Everything in life is luck User ID: 888 02-22-2012 10:07 PM

LoP Guest Wrote:

The Lucky AC Wrote:
LoP Guest Wrote:
the choices....the choices

anyways -- as it takes two to create a life on earth, it takes two to create a life in heaven

You got links or sources for that?
Or just a guess/opinion?

links ????

why would one need a link ????

EVERY Christian church believes that....they just put a restriction on who one of the ones is....

'course i was referring to the heaven part, assuming you were not questioning the life on earth part....

I was raised in a Christian church. I don't ever recall that it took two to create life in heaven.
A single source was referenced, whether they were right or wrong is debatable.

**CountFapula**

LoP Guest Wrote:

You read it...

Evolution is a fact, it has been proved, but god is only an unfalsifiable hypothesis.

You can't prove it any more than you can't. SCIENCE IS A FAITH BASED SYSTEM AS MUCH AS RELIGION.

Both can produce results, both can be wrong.

Sorry but this is kind of a silly question. Lmao

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 67922 02-22-2012 10:08 PM

LoP Guest Wrote:

A thought I like: If the Source is infinite, as I think it would have to be, then all possible universes, all possible outcomes, all possible anythings, must exist but not only exist, they must exist infintely.

yes....

without beginning -- without end

the 'God' spoken of in Genesis 1:1 existed before the beginning that 'God' created....so it can be assumed anyhow

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 67922 02-22-2012 10:10 PM

The Lucky AC Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
The Lucky AC Wrote:
You got links or sources for that?
Or just a guess/opinion?

links ????

why would one need a link ????

EVERY Christian church believes that....they just put a restriction on who one of the ones is....

'course i was referring to the heaven part, assuming you were not questioning the life on earth part....

I was raised in a Christian church. I don't ever recall that it took two to create life in heaven.
A single source was referenced, whether they were right or wrong is debatable.

You and your personal savior Jesus

You = 1
Jesus = 1

1+1 = 2

**Truth** lop guest User ID: 79208 02-22-2012 10:12 PM

God wanted me to say to OP "Prove to me that you exist".

**FreedomStands**

LoP Guest Wrote:

FreedomStands Wrote:
LoP Guest Wrote:
the Jews as a whole have NEVER been restricted to one single book, ever

Jesus used BOOKS

Ok, Books, is it worth going wild about?

It is to counter the notion today of the Bible being the only valid book or written source of finding god/God

god/God can be found with a book, with books, or without a book or books

God is all things, except one

anyways, please forgive the brashness of my tone, english language syntax tends to cause dissonance in the mind from time to time

yeah. forgiven. What is the "one thing" God is not?

**The Lucky AC** Everything in life is luck User ID: 888 02-22-2012 10:16 PM

LoP Guest Wrote:

The Lucky AC Wrote:
LoP Guest Wrote:
links ????

why would one need a link ????

EVERY Christian church believes that....they just put a restriction on who one of the ones is....

'course i was referring to the heaven part, assuming you were not questioning the life on earth part....

I was raised in a Christian church. I don't ever recall that it took two to create life in heaven.
A single source was referenced, whether they were right or wrong is debatable.

You and your personal savior Jesus

You = 1
Jesus = 1

1+1 = 2

That isn't creating life in heaven.
What you are suggesting is it takes two to get to heaven, a different point from that which you stated.