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**FreedomStands** · (This post was last modified: 02-22-2012 10:28 PM by FreedomStands.)

LoP Guest Wrote:

FreedomStands Wrote:
LoP Guest Wrote:
God is all things, except one

there is nothing else to add to that statement...God is boundless, god cannot be bound inside a human consciousness

Oh...are you saying God is not One?

God is all things, except one

What does that mean?

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 67922 02-22-2012 10:28 PM

FreedomStands Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
FreedomStands Wrote:
God is watching your every move at least.

wouldn't God already know in advance 'every move' we make before we make them ??

Yeah, and better yet, is even what enables you to make those moves in the first place.

but with Jesus, didn't God the father give up his authority to his son ??

meaning the enabled are more important than the enabler....

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 67922 02-22-2012 10:31 PM

FreedomStands Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
FreedomStands Wrote:
Oh...are you saying God is not One?

God is all things, except one

What does that mean?

exactly what it states, nothing more -- nothing less

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 77678 02-22-2012 10:35 PM

gods are not needed now..feed on you...we have synergie..we are borg

**Leopardsands** · **Leopardsands** Goth Pug User ID: 76478 02-22-2012 10:36 PM **Posts: 13,699**

Then evolution is god.

**HardTruth**

LoP Guest Wrote:

HardTruth Wrote:
FreedomStands Wrote:
God is watching your every move at least.

LOL, sure, I don't think some divine entity, or any entity for that matter, would spend or waste their existence in observing life forms here on Earth!!

Wise up, grasshopper!!

___________

If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!

why not ??

I hereby grant you eternal life, one small catch however!!

You must watch and record John Doe's life thru all his incarnations on Earth, his emotions, agenda's, etc, until told otherwise!!

I'm sorry, but I must respectfully decline!!

___________

If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 67922 02-22-2012 10:41 PM

HardTruth Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
HardTruth Wrote:

LOL, sure, I don't think some divine entity, or any entity for that matter, would spend or waste their existence in observing life forms here on Earth!!

Wise up, grasshopper!!

___________

If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!

why not ??

I hereby grant you eternal life, one small catch however!!

You must watch and record John Doe's life thru all his incarnations on Earth, his emotions, agenda's, etc, until told otherwise!!

I'm sorry, but I must respectfully decline!!

___________

If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!

the 'catch' with eternal life is eternal death

anyways, yes one may decline....

like many, heritage isn't a concern of yours

**FreedomStands**

LoP Guest Wrote:

FreedomStands Wrote:
LoP Guest Wrote:
wouldn't God already know in advance 'every move' we make before we make them ??

Yeah, and better yet, is even what enables you to make those moves in the first place.

but with Jesus, didn't God the father give up his authority to his son ??

meaning the enabled are more important than the enabler....

No, I don't think God gave up authority to Jesus. Jesus was sent by God:

Mark 13:32
"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Pater.

Acts 1:7
He said to them: "It is not for you to know the times or dates the Master has set by his own authority.

(This shows that God has the authority.)

Matthew 24:36
"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Pater.

(This shows that Jesus doesn't have full knowledge or control.)

Matthew 4:10
Jesus said to him, "Away from me, Satan! For it is written: 'Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.'"

(The word for worship hear means performing the kowtow.)

Mark 12:29
"The most important one," answered Jesus, "is this: 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.

(The most important commandment is that God is One, and is the only Lord and God.)

John 5:30
I can do nothing on my own. I judge as God tells me. Therefore, my judgment is just, because I carry out the will of the one who sent me, not my own will.

(This shows that Jesus has no authority of his own, but does what he is told to do by the true authority.)

John 6:38
For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me.

(This shows that God sent Jesus to people, and Jesus is doing what God wills, not what Jesus wills.)

John 8:28
So Jesus said, "When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am [the one I claim to be] and that I do nothing on my own but speak just what the Master has taught me.

(Jesus reveals that only what God tells him to say is what he says as revelation.)

John 12:49
For I did not speak of my own accord, but the Master who sent me commanded me what to say and how to say it.

(The Master/Pater commands Jesus.)

John 12:50
I know that his command leads to eternal life. So whatever I say is just what the Master has told me to say."

(This repeats that God is in command.)

Matthew 26:39
Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, "My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will."

(This shows that Jesus worships God and begs God for things, performing the kowtow, which was the traditional method of worship and expression of submission to authority and God.)

**FreedomStands**

LoP Guest Wrote:

FreedomStands Wrote:
LoP Guest Wrote:
God is all things, except one

What does that mean?

exactly what it states, nothing more -- nothing less

One could say "all things are one" and God is the One which encompasses all things, and the one thing God is not is "nothing" or "not God".

**FreedomStands**

FreedomStands Wrote:

FreedomStands Wrote:
HardTruth Wrote:

LOL, sure, I don't think some divine entity, or any entity for that matter, would spend or waste their existence in observing life forms here on Earth!!

Wise up, grasshopper!!

___________

If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!

You're thinking of "things" of "forms" or "limited beings", yes of course those wouldn't.

That which sustains and animates all information that exists, is aware of your every move, because your every move is information it is sustaining and animating in order for you to even make those moves.

So I'm not talking about some old blue creature watching people on a tv screen.

I don't call anything less than the Ultimate All Encompassing Supreme Reality from which all information was produced and which all information exists within "divine" or a "God".

Hopefully you didn't miss this?

**HardTruth**

LoP Guest Wrote:

HardTruth Wrote:
LoP Guest Wrote:
why not ??

I hereby grant you eternal life, one small catch however!!

You must watch and record John Doe's life thru all his incarnations on Earth, his emotions, agenda's, etc, until told otherwise!!

I'm sorry, but I must respectfully decline!!

___________

If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!

the 'catch' with eternal life is eternal death

anyways, yes one may decline....

like many, heritage isn't a concern of yours

And like many, you completely failed to grasp the full implications of the lesson!!

I suppose, like Santa, someone is making a list and checking it twice, and going to report back to the boss who has been naughty or nice?

___________

If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 65061 02-22-2012 10:51 PM

God creates with evolution...

God is EVERYTHING, breathes through everything, and connects everything together.

Here's my description, or metaphor for an atheist.
-An Atheist is the equivalent of the flea denying the existence of the dog.-

Jhikpghf

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 67922 02-22-2012 10:51 PM

FreedomStands Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
FreedomStands Wrote:
Yeah, and better yet, is even what enables you to make those moves in the first place.

but with Jesus, didn't God the father give up his authority to his son ??

meaning the enabled are more important than the enabler....

No, I don't think God gave up authority to Jesus. Jesus was sent by God:

John 3:16

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in the son should not perish, but have everlasting life.

doesn't that mean that the son is more important than the father ??

doesn't that mean that god relinquished his power to his son ??

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 67922 02-22-2012 10:52 PM

LoP Guest Wrote:

God creates with evolution...

God is EVERYTHING, breathes through everything, and connects everything together.

Here's my description, or metaphor for an atheist.
-An Atheist is the equivalent of the flea denying the existence of the dog.-

so is God creating then ??

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 67922 02-22-2012 10:54 PM

HardTruth Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
HardTruth Wrote:
I hereby grant you eternal life, one small catch however!!

You must watch and record John Doe's life thru all his incarnations on Earth, his emotions, agenda's, etc, until told otherwise!!

I'm sorry, but I must respectfully decline!!

___________

If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!

the 'catch' with eternal life is eternal death

anyways, yes one may decline....

like many, heritage isn't a concern of yours

And like many, you completely failed to grasp the full implications of the lesson!!

I suppose, like Santa, someone is making a list and checking it twice, and going to report back to the boss who has been naughty or nice?

___________

If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!

i grasp that once you are dead, your life and living would be irrelevant to anyone/anything but yourself, correct ??