LoP Guest  Wrote:

FreedomStands  Wrote:

The information within God, that God produced, is constantly changing, but God itself is infinite and does not spacially expand because an infinite encompasses all space, there is nothing outside of it.

so there is nothing to be concerned with then, as God has it all under-control....humans are meaningless and irrelevant

God, and God alone bears all the responsibility for 'everything'

God is evil, God is good

That is right, but that doesn't mean jumping to the conclusion that there is no way for us to at least attempt on the immediate level what seems to be an effort to gain benefit and avoid harm. Our only purpose can be to try to survive, and survive beneficially if possible. Yes, on the Ultimate level, it may be that God is what determined the results we ended up choosing, but on the immediate level we should still try if we can try or seem to try to make an effort to benefit ourselves and avoid harm, and to get benefit later as well, after our deaths, in case there is to be more.

FreedomStands  Wrote:

The Evil AC  Wrote:

That is a contradiction. You have stated many times it is impossible for nothing to exist.
How much money are you making off the Internet and long threads?

Probably as much as you are making for hiding to make posts to me and accuse me of things, which I think is zero dollars.

I only have 1 thread. I am not making any money from what I talk about or post or the length or anything.

"there is nothing outside of it" means "nothing exists outside of it" it isn't a contradiction. There isn't anything outside of it is what I'm saying, yes, nothing doesn't exist, only what I call God exists.

I was just asking a question. A friend told me there is money to be made off the net if you know how.
It does seem that by having a super long thread you are now on the LOP top 10 threads list.

The Lucky AC  Wrote:

FreedomStands  Wrote:

Probably as much as you are making for hiding to make posts to me and accuse me of things, which I think is zero dollars.

I only have 1 thread. I am not making any money from what I talk about or post or the length or anything.

"there is nothing outside of it" means "nothing exists outside of it" it isn't a contradiction. There isn't anything outside of it is what I'm saying, yes, nothing doesn't exist, only what I call God exists.

I was just asking a question. A friend told me there is money to be made off the net if you know how.
It does seem that by having a super long thread you are now on the LOP top 10 threads list.

I wish. Teach me how if there is a way you know.

FreedomStands  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

so there is nothing to be concerned with then, as God has it all under-control....humans are meaningless and irrelevant

God, and God alone bears all the responsibility for 'everything'

God is evil, God is good

That is right, but that doesn't mean jumping to the conclusion that there is no way for us to at least attempt on the immediate level what seems to be an effort to gain benefit and avoid harm.

so we should defy God and challenge Gods domination over us then ??

FreedomStands  Wrote:

The Lucky AC  Wrote:

I was just asking a question. A friend told me there is money to be made off the net if you know how.
It does seem that by having a super long thread you are now on the LOP top 10 threads list.

I wish. Teach me how if there is a way you know.

You seem pretty clued up and well researched.

FreedomStands  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

so there is nothing to be concerned with then, as God has it all under-control....humans are meaningless and irrelevant

God, and God alone bears all the responsibility for 'everything'

God is evil, God is good

That is right, but that doesn't mean jumping to the conclusion that there is no way for us to at least attempt on the immediate level what seems to be an effort to gain benefit and avoid harm. Our only purpose can be to try to survive, and survive beneficially if possible. Yes, on the Ultimate level, it may be that God is what determined the results we ended up choosing, but on the immediate level we should still try if we can try or seem to try to make an effort to benefit ourselves and avoid harm, and to get benefit later as well, after our deaths, in case there is to be more.

So you don't believe in helping others?
People that help others are held in the highest regard by other humans.
Many of these people give up many of their comforts and benefits of life to give to others.

FreedomStands  Wrote:

but God is what existed first,

that is basically your personal credo isn't it....

'first' above all else....

seriously, is that a moral foundation for what is good ??

You read it...

Evolution is a fact, it has been proved, but god is only an unfalsifiable hypothesis.

FreedomStands  Wrote:

but God is what existed first,

that is basically your personal credo isn't....

'first' above all else....

seriously, is that a moral foundation for what is good ??

The Lucky AC  Wrote:

FreedomStands  Wrote:

That is right, but that doesn't mean jumping to the conclusion that there is no way for us to at least attempt on the immediate level what seems to be an effort to gain benefit and avoid harm. Our only purpose can be to try to survive, and survive beneficially if possible. Yes, on the Ultimate level, it may be that God is what determined the results we ended up choosing, but on the immediate level we should still try if we can try or seem to try to make an effort to benefit ourselves and avoid harm, and to get benefit later as well, after our deaths, in case there is to be more.

So you don't believe in helping others?
People that help others are held in the highest regard by other humans.
Many of these people give up many of their comforts and benefits of life to give to others.

I do believe in helping others, I believe that is how one could potentially achieve a reward later.

LoP Guest  Wrote:

You read it...

Evolution is a fact, it has been proved, but god is only an unfalsifiable hypothesis.

I'm sure you have already been CORRECTED! But in case you missed it................................



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution


Charles Darwin was the first to formulate a scientific argument for the theory of evolution by means of natural selection.



Did yah see that? Did yah, did yah?

And I'm sure that CANCER puts a wrinch into this theory!!!!!

What a JACKWAGON!

LoP Guest  Wrote:

FreedomStands  Wrote:

but God is what existed first,

that is basically your personal credo isn't....

'first' above all else....

seriously, is that a moral foundation for what is good ??

to me "good" and "evil" just mean "harm" and "benefit".

For God, nothing can "harm" or "benefit" God.

For us, things can "harm" and "benefit" us.

All experiences are information, and this includes experiences of "harm" and experiences of "benefit".

All information is produced by God, sustained by God, and animated by what I call God.

My advice is to seek the benefit, and avoid the harm, even if you're being controlled ultimately, to try your best on the immediate level to seek the benefit and avoid the harm.

LoP Guest  Wrote:

FreedomStands  Wrote:

but God is what existed first,

that is basically your personal credo isn't....

'first' above all else....

seriously, is that a moral foundation for what is good ??

to me "good" and "evil" just mean "harm" and "benefit".

For God, nothing can "harm" or "benefit" God.

For us, things can "harm" and "benefit" us.

All experiences are information, and this includes experiences of "harm" and experiences of "benefit".

All information is produced by God, sustained by God, and animated by what I call God.

My advice is to seek the benefit, and avoid the harm, even if you're being controlled ultimately, to try your best on the immediate level to seek the benefit and avoid the harm.

FreedomStands  Wrote:

The Lucky AC  Wrote:

So you don't believe in helping others?
People that help others are held in the highest regard by other humans.
Many of these people give up many of their comforts and benefits of life to give to others.

I do believe in helping others, I believe that is how one could potentially achieve a reward later.

What reward is possible?
In your thread you have said that you believe when we die it is the end and there is nothing for us beyond that point.