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**AC488** I got no balls User ID: 488 02-23-2012 09:26 AM

roadtoad Wrote:

Its really easy, you ever see a dog freak out when he looks in a mirror?
That's because he sees god.
You see, 'dog' spelled backwards is 'god'.
So now you have your proof.

WOW. I think that wit reasoning like that you could be prez.

**FreedomStands**

The Lucky AC Wrote:

FreedomStands Wrote:
The Lucky AC Wrote:
Who is they?

The creatures, the "balls of light" things, the misties, whatever you want to call them. The Will-o-wisps. The "faeries".

You can check my thread on GLP too where I talked about how people have no reason to believe things that an entity says to them. For example there was a woman there who was speaking to an entity she called Christ Michael, and also had no reason to just believe what it was saying off hand just because of how she felt or anything.

"Just knowing" isn't good enough, if you think about it, you'll realize that any entity could just as easily be lying or playing a trick.

She even mentioned sensing the amusement, these things are widely known as being mischievous, playful, tricky, and even dangerous.
The Christ Micheal thing is a psy-op being run in conjugation with sworn Satanists and intelligence agencies.
They use technology to simulate experiences. It doesn't work on everyone.
Lucis Trust people. They have many Christian looking sites that are not.
Most modern Channeling of Galactic entities and spaceship commanders all come from the same broadcasting centers.

It is just the ball of light didn't tell her to do anything. So no great trickery.
Many people have out there experiences.

Yeah, the balls of light didn't tell her to do anything, but they might have if she had stayed longer. They at least told three possible lies, that they created her, and that she is a ball of light like them, and that she is from "out there" and is going to go home soon.

Now imagine a bunch of punks making a prank call and saying similar things just to disturb or inspire a human they might consider gullible.

There is no reason to believe what they say, just because they are a different life form than us.

The Christ Michael thing which was as you say a Satanist type deal, was constantly talking about ascension and stuff, and "dropping the body".

When these beings claim to people that they are like them, and should "drop their body" things become dangerous, they are often trying to lead people to their deaths. In times past, it was said they would lead people away into forest and lure them into sinking bogs, or other kinds of pits and traps.

If she has continued to encounter a specific group that has a repeated theme and seems to know each other then they are a full blown group.

Don't think that the Satanists are just all humans always, they at least claim to work with these creatures many times too towards their agendas.

In her case though, it at least seems she might have met a local group that lives out in the middle of nowhere and was just crossing by and spotted her, but they may have had a full blown plan to lure her into something, and I'd like to hear more of her experiences.

I believe what happened to her, and it isn't cruel of me to warn a person of potential deception and remind people to watch out for potential lies that any creature can tell easily.

It is like the stupid things people say "shake the hand of the angel to find out if it is honest" or "ask if it comes from the light" or any of that stupid ridiculous stuff haha, because they can easily lie, just like we can!

Cruelty is not warning a person, and instead making them feel that whatever they hear from these things they should believe or follow them.

**The Lucky AC** Everything in life is luck User ID: 888 02-23-2012 09:37 AM

FreedomStands Wrote:

The Lucky AC Wrote:
FreedomStands Wrote:
The creatures, the "balls of light" things, the misties, whatever you want to call them. The Will-o-wisps. The "faeries".

You can check my thread on GLP too where I talked about how people have no reason to believe things that an entity says to them. For example there was a woman there who was speaking to an entity she called Christ Michael, and also had no reason to just believe what it was saying off hand just because of how she felt or anything.

"Just knowing" isn't good enough, if you think about it, you'll realize that any entity could just as easily be lying or playing a trick.

She even mentioned sensing the amusement, these things are widely known as being mischievous, playful, tricky, and even dangerous.
The Christ Micheal thing is a psy-op being run in conjugation with sworn Satanists and intelligence agencies.
They use technology to simulate experiences. It doesn't work on everyone.
Lucis Trust people. They have many Christian looking sites that are not.
Most modern Channeling of Galactic entities and spaceship commanders all come from the same broadcasting centers.

It is just the ball of light didn't tell her to do anything. So no great trickery.
Many people have out there experiences.

Yeah, the balls of light didn't tell her to do anything, but they might have if she had stayed longer. They at least told three possible lies, that they created her, and that she is a ball of light like them, and that she is from "out there" and is going to go home soon.

Now imagine a bunch of punks making a prank call and saying similar things just to disturb or inspire a human they might consider gullible.

There is no reason to believe what they say, just because they are a different life form than us.

The Christ Michael thing which was as you say a Satanist type deal, was constantly talking about ascension and stuff, and "dropping the body".

When these beings claim to people that they are like them, and should "drop their body" things become dangerous, they are often trying to lead people to their deaths. In times past, it was said they would lead people away into forest and lure them into sinking bogs, or other kinds of pits and traps.

If she has continued to encounter a specific group that has a repeated theme and seems to know each other then they are a full blown group.

Don't think that the Satanists are just all humans always, they at least claim to work with these creatures many times too towards their agendas.

In her case though, it at least seems she might have met a local group that lives out in the middle of nowhere and was just crossing by and spotted her, but they may have had a full blown plan to lure her into something, and I'd like to hear more of her experiences.

I believe what happened to her, and it isn't cruel of me to warn a person of potential deception and remind people to watch out for potential lies that any creature can tell easily.

It is like the stupid things people say "shake the hand of the angel to find out if it is honest" or "ask if it comes from the light" or any of that stupid ridiculous stuff haha, because they can easily lie, just like we can!

Cruelty is not warning a person, and instead making them feel that whatever they hear from these things they should believe or follow them.

In going with that theme how do we know the entity than dictated the Qur'an wasn't the same type of thing. A deceiver up to lead vast amounts of people astray.
This type of reasoning could be applied to all scriptures.

**UNThredded** · **UNThredded** Subscriber User ID: 10754 02-23-2012 09:39 AM **Posts: 6,308**

LoP Guest Wrote:

You read it...

Evolution is a fact, it has been proved, but god is only an unfalsifiable hypothesis.

They call it the "THEORY" of evolution for a reason you halfwit

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 67922 02-23-2012 09:42 AM

Psychosocial Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
so i ask you -- did humans ascend from other life forms or did humans descend from other life forms ??

I don't know! I'm just pointing out your error in statement that Evalution is just a theory. I really have no clue how we got here.

For all anyone knows the Anunnaki created us! No one on Earth has the real truth.

MY error ????

have YOU considered english lessons ??

**synchromystiman**

Beyond Wrote:

MorningMist Wrote:
Try to prove God.

Disprove God.

synchromystiman Wrote:

So if there is no 'God' and everything just sprang up from the chaos of potential on it's own, a first effect without a cause perhaps, and all of Life, this amazing beauty and complexity, of which your own microcosm is but one small testament to this complexity, all that we seem to be able to behold with our consciousness just randomly sprang up from nothing,

then what's next?

I mean if evolution is the simple random progression of complexity (in a universe where everything left to it's own means seems to decay ) then what's the next level of complexity?

In an infinite universe where 'Life' just randomly occurs and seems to get more and more complex, lol, what would be the next stage of development of this 'Life'?

What spurred individual microbes to 'work together'? Evolution?

Seems to me Life is like a force that has come up from the darkness in ever increasing complexity. Some want to think of it as evolution, some think everything happened at once by a 'God' that can breathe Life into dust. Maybe both are correct. In a world of Duality what is the counterpart to Time?

Evolve or die so the evolutionist say. Seems to me they could be correct in a way.

But, what's the next step?

In an infinite universe with infinite time, what are the odds that some random planet randomly evolved 'Life' and then managed to make it past the part where they kill themselves off like microbes in a jar?

What then?

I'm too tired to come up with my own words but here's the
first "media" that has come to my mind after I read your post.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRZThCUEuqA

You're obviously a wise kitteh.

I wanted to thank you for that video. Pretty interesting how humanity seems to have created a sort of neural net all over the globe. We can now interact in a way that was unimaginable just a few short years ago. While technology in the wrong hands is not something most care to think about, if folks stopped 'worshiping the beast' lol, and learned to use it wisely who is to say that it all isn't just part of our macro development that we don't even understand yet?

Nice eye btw ;-)

lol

**The Lucky AC** Everything in life is luck User ID: 888 02-23-2012 10:37 AM

The Lucky AC Wrote:

FreedomStands Wrote:
The Lucky AC Wrote:
The Christ Micheal thing is a psy-op being run in conjugation with sworn Satanists and intelligence agencies.
They use technology to simulate experiences. It doesn't work on everyone.
Lucis Trust people. They have many Christian looking sites that are not.
Most modern Channeling of Galactic entities and spaceship commanders all come from the same broadcasting centers.

It is just the ball of light didn't tell her to do anything. So no great trickery.
Many people have out there experiences.

Yeah, the balls of light didn't tell her to do anything, but they might have if she had stayed longer. They at least told three possible lies, that they created her, and that she is a ball of light like them, and that she is from "out there" and is going to go home soon.

Now imagine a bunch of punks making a prank call and saying similar things just to disturb or inspire a human they might consider gullible.

There is no reason to believe what they say, just because they are a different life form than us.

The Christ Michael thing which was as you say a Satanist type deal, was constantly talking about ascension and stuff, and "dropping the body".

When these beings claim to people that they are like them, and should "drop their body" things become dangerous, they are often trying to lead people to their deaths. In times past, it was said they would lead people away into forest and lure them into sinking bogs, or other kinds of pits and traps.

If she has continued to encounter a specific group that has a repeated theme and seems to know each other then they are a full blown group.

Don't think that the Satanists are just all humans always, they at least claim to work with these creatures many times too towards their agendas.

In her case though, it at least seems she might have met a local group that lives out in the middle of nowhere and was just crossing by and spotted her, but they may have had a full blown plan to lure her into something, and I'd like to hear more of her experiences.

I believe what happened to her, and it isn't cruel of me to warn a person of potential deception and remind people to watch out for potential lies that any creature can tell easily.

It is like the stupid things people say "shake the hand of the angel to find out if it is honest" or "ask if it comes from the light" or any of that stupid ridiculous stuff haha, because they can easily lie, just like we can!

Cruelty is not warning a person, and instead making them feel that whatever they hear from these things they should believe or follow them.
In going with that theme how do we know the entity than dictated the Qur'an wasn't the same type of thing. A deceiver up to lead vast amounts of people astray.
This type of reasoning could be applied to all scriptures.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 67922 02-23-2012 11:00 AM

The Lucky AC Wrote:

In going with that theme how do we know the entity than dictated the Qur'an wasn't the same type of thing.

Mohammed specifically told his contemporaries to NOT write down what he said, when he was alive the Quoran was verbal only, and it was supposed to remain verbal only....

Not until after Mohammed died was the Quoran actually wrote down

**FreedomStands**

LoP Guest Wrote:

The Lucky AC Wrote:
In going with that theme how do we know the entity than dictated the Qur'an wasn't the same type of thing.

Mohammed specifically told his contemporaries to NOT write down what he said, when he was alive the Quoran was verbal only, and it was supposed to remain verbal only....

Not until after Mohammed died was the Quoran actually wrote down

That isn't actually true, the histories came later and are younger than the Qur'an, making the Qur'an itself the earliest source for information at the actual time it was happening and it clearly states that what he was saying was being written down by multiple trustworthy scribes.

Not only does it say that, but it mentions in other places that it was "written down".

The Qur'an means "lecture" or "recitation" but it admits within the text it was being written.

**FreedomStands**

The Lucky AC Wrote:

FreedomStands Wrote:
The Lucky AC Wrote:
The Christ Micheal thing is a psy-op being run in conjugation with sworn Satanists and intelligence agencies.
They use technology to simulate experiences. It doesn't work on everyone.
Lucis Trust people. They have many Christian looking sites that are not.
Most modern Channeling of Galactic entities and spaceship commanders all come from the same broadcasting centers.

It is just the ball of light didn't tell her to do anything. So no great trickery.
Many people have out there experiences.

Yeah, the balls of light didn't tell her to do anything, but they might have if she had stayed longer. They at least told three possible lies, that they created her, and that she is a ball of light like them, and that she is from "out there" and is going to go home soon.

Now imagine a bunch of punks making a prank call and saying similar things just to disturb or inspire a human they might consider gullible.

There is no reason to believe what they say, just because they are a different life form than us.

The Christ Michael thing which was as you say a Satanist type deal, was constantly talking about ascension and stuff, and "dropping the body".

When these beings claim to people that they are like them, and should "drop their body" things become dangerous, they are often trying to lead people to their deaths. In times past, it was said they would lead people away into forest and lure them into sinking bogs, or other kinds of pits and traps.

If she has continued to encounter a specific group that has a repeated theme and seems to know each other then they are a full blown group.

Don't think that the Satanists are just all humans always, they at least claim to work with these creatures many times too towards their agendas.

In her case though, it at least seems she might have met a local group that lives out in the middle of nowhere and was just crossing by and spotted her, but they may have had a full blown plan to lure her into something, and I'd like to hear more of her experiences.

I believe what happened to her, and it isn't cruel of me to warn a person of potential deception and remind people to watch out for potential lies that any creature can tell easily.

It is like the stupid things people say "shake the hand of the angel to find out if it is honest" or "ask if it comes from the light" or any of that stupid ridiculous stuff haha, because they can easily lie, just like we can!

Cruelty is not warning a person, and instead making them feel that whatever they hear from these things they should believe or follow them.
In going with that theme how do we know the entity than dictated the Qur'an wasn't the same type of thing. A deceiver up to lead vast amounts of people astray.
This type of reasoning could be applied to all scriptures.

YES! I AGREE ABSOLUTELY! That is what I say too. How you figure it out? You look what it says and see if it makes sense and is reasonable and justifiable and logical and all that.

Nobody should believe a book "just because".

It has to make sense, it has to be reasoned out.

All the Qur'an says repeatedly is "worship the Ultimate and do good like charity, and you will be rewarded". Pretty simple.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 80179 02-23-2012 11:15 AM

LoP Guest Wrote:

You read it...

Evolution is a fact, it has been proved, but god is only an unfalsifiable hypothesis.

You have to look harder.

The world is a test-bed that God created to answer a question.

He can't alter the important parameters without disrupting the test but he can inject meaning into small, inconsequential events. If you know that, if you know to look for them, you can see it.

**FreedomStands**

The Lucky AC Wrote:

In going with that theme how do we know the entity than dictated the Qur'an wasn't the same type of thing. A deceiver up to lead vast amounts of people astray.
This type of reasoning could be applied to all scriptures.

So what does the deceiver benefit from telling people to give to the poor and help the needy, to worship the Ultimate First and to protect yourselves from harm?

One has to read the scriptures to see what the message is. If it is a deceptive entity, which it may be and always should be suspected of being, one has to see if it is deceptive based on what it is saying.

The part it could be lying about is if there is actually a reward for good conduct, but this message is repeated in the Bible, and other cultural religions around the whole world.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 67922 02-23-2012 11:20 AM

FreedomStands Wrote:

The Qur'an means "lecture" or "recitation" but it admits within the text it was being written.

not by the words or authority of Muhammad

FACT: no written copies existed until after he died

and the true meaning of the term Quoran is 'children'

**FreedomStands**

LoP Guest Wrote:

FreedomStands Wrote:
The Qur'an means "lecture" or "recitation" but it admits within the text it was being written.

not by the words or authority of Muhammad

FACT: no written copies existed until after he died

and the true meaning of the term Quoran is 'children'

lol it isn't usually transliterated as "Quoran" and it is agreed upon by all scholars both Islamic and non Islamic, and arabic linguists that it means "recital/lecture". It does not mean children, the word for children is b'nei.

It also isn't an established "FACT" that no written copies existed until after he died, those histories were written centuries after he died by people who did not exist when he lived. There is no way to establish if copies existed within his lifetime or not, but the Qur'an itself says that it was being written down by scribes in his presence, and accusers in the Qur'an are recorded as mentioning it being written down as well.

The hadiths come from centuries after the events, and are not to be trusted as the primary source for historical information related to the time.

The Qur'an is the much older source of information directly related to the events.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 16731 02-23-2012 11:39 AM

LoP Guest Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
LoP Guest Wrote:
Have you ever seen a vitamin? Do you believe they exist?

Vitamins are chemicals, therefore they can bee seen and our body reacts to them.

God is the universe. Just replace the word God with Universe in any scripture and it makes sense.

So, the UNIVERSE is going to roast my eternal soul in HELL because I refused to kiss its ass?

That is just as ignorant as the original version.