Post: #1

''The world is, then, through all its departments, a living arithmetic in its development, a realized geometry in its repose.''

This got me thinking about numbers today, about the relationship between these numbers, the fabric of the universe and all that is pertained within. I began at the beginning with the number 1. The significance of this number is immense, everyone knows the single entity and it stands alone. It is the whole within it's self and is unlike any that follow it, as all others must be made out of 1 in some multiple. Beyond the singular we venture into the endless, for there is no end to numbers they just continue into the infinite until someone loses count or we get bored.

Well you can only imagine where this train of thought took me, but in the end I settled on what came before 1??? Well again I knew the answer, before their was 1 there was nothing, or zero, or 0. Now this number offered yet more mystery, it was what was there before, representing the void before the 1, and if you added it to another it would disappear without trace, an example of which would be 4 + 0 = 4. Like magic it is absorbed and like magic it can be extracted again, it was there but not there, the invisible so to speak but a requirement none the less, because without 0 could 1 have existed at all??

Again my train of thought shifted to the separation of the two, the 1 was in its entirety the complete opposite of the 0, and both could share the same place at the same time. But what was the exact point of transition when not existing merged into actual being, well that would be the decimal point, the marker that signifies the boundary between these two entities or realities, one reality was limitless the other a reality void. The complexities of such I could only begin to understand, the immensity of it all.... So I put the washing out to clear my head and tried to focus on other things. But as I stared up at the sky my mind did wander and I found myself floating away yet again. Could we really boil our reality down to the single figure and what had preceded it the zero??? And on a molecular level are we not just a series of infinite numbers???

We as a species are an ongoing equation inside yet another mathematical problem, constantly solving ourselves and evolving into yet new and more complex numbers and problems.Yet we also remain the zero at least in some part for our entire existence because it can be added and subtracted without change in our physical reality or our perception of such (perception of reality and actual reality are different in relation to point of view).

There my mind stopped, on the edge of my decimal point, staring out into the void, I considered many things,other conversations with yet more fantastical conclusions. Things beyond my educational status ( I have maths and English gcse's which isn't really an achievement by anybody's standards lol),and I found understanding and clarity where really I had no right to. This felt like inherited knowledge maybe? I am not sure? However I would be interested to see if anyone else has had similar thoughts???


Love to all

Tasha-ann

Post: #2

''The world is, then, through all its departments, a living arithmetic in its development, a realized geometry in its repose.''


love this quote....thanks tasha-ann


zero is a fascinating concept

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/arc...read=94962

here is some other number stuff that is not so well known:

http://www.lawsofwisdom.com/chapter10.html

Post: #3

Dixie Fluffenstien  Wrote:

''The world is, then, through all its departments, a living arithmetic in its development, a realized geometry in its repose.''


love this quote....thanks tasha-ann


zero is a fascinating concept

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/arc...read=94962

here is some other number stuff that is not so well known:

http://www.lawsofwisdom.com/chapter10.html

I like it too and got at least two hours of ear smoking because of it... lol
I will check out those links..

Post: #4

Tash!

Post: #5

Ghost of 51:50  Wrote:

Tash!

now then casper hope you are well???

Post: #6

Try this idea on for size...


Before the beginning was Infinity....not nothing...you cannot make something from nothing as all scientific models are trying to do and religions bypass all together with beliefs. Neither one stands. Science is carefully planning where to put the next foot and looking at the minutest detail of the ground to do so...instead of just walking...looking through te wrong end of a telescope. Religions insist that man can fly...and they tell you that while sitting on the ground enjoying a picnic. Nether are getting very far but at least science has an idea to actually get somewhere...by walking there step by step.

Ready to walk with me?

You cannot get anything from zero...but Infinity divided by itself can make 1....and everything there after because of a vector equalibrious expansion of the space to do it in...the sphere of a universe. And it makes real in structure the three relationships infinity has with itself...all around, throughout, and at the center of itself. Sphere, substrate, central point.

Left in the wake of Infinity's contraction to a point (1vector flow object) and expansion to a sphere is the inverse of the 10 vector FOLF (flower of life field...nested spheres of omnipresent infinite light...eight internal petals, a circumference and a center...10.) is the 8 vector vibrating sound quantum field.

This satisfies Newtons three laws of motion, allows infinity to unfold it's tree basic natures(surrounding all things, everywhere at once, and in the center of itself.) as an infinite finite.

There is no zero that comes up or is needed.

Spherical number theory.

You like? It goes on to describe the 4 braided vectors of shape flow that make up time....

It is the solve for the Theory of Everything and the Unified Field Theory....I call it the Theory of Reality!

Post: #7

you can only create something from nothing....otherwise you are not creating, you are just changing something into something else.

or so i've been told

Post: #8

Dixie Fluffenstien  Wrote:

you can only create something from nothing....otherwise you are not creating, you are just changing something into something else.

or so i've been told

Seems like a huge logical fallacy to me...something from nothing...

But something distinct from an Infinity is solvable.

Creation happens because that Omnipresent light field is the "planck" field for another Living Being and this would be God. And as GOD has been speaking His Name since forever...How many completed "God's" exist with GOD out side this universe (sphere)?

Post: #9

A. R. K.  Wrote:

Dixie Fluffenstien  Wrote:

you can only create something from nothing....otherwise you are not creating, you are just changing something into something else.

or so i've been told

Seems like a huge logical fallacy to me...

But something distinct from an Infinity is solvable.

you say before the beginning was infinity.

the beginning of what? and how is there any proof or any way to logically prove what existed or not before anything/everything began?

if this is not fallacy...i'm not sure what is.

numbers aren't real they are symbols.

the zero chiefs, for example, used the zero to describe the sum of all the energies of all beings, positive and negative, at any one time.

that could very well be your definition of infinity...in which case we are saying the same thing.

to me the zero is the circle, the circle is infinity...., the dynamic stillness from which all arises out of necessity. and to which all returns like the river to the sea once the expression is complete. the journey around is individual and collective.

i think beginnings and endings are human conditions.....like numbers. beginnings and endings symbolize states of mind. the void just is.

Post: #10

Again...


Infinity exists first, then it divides by itself to create 1 (a point of creation, the first earth mentioned in genesis) For this 1 to exist as an individual thing the infinite light, the Ain Soph also recedes to a spherical ceiling (heavens) as well as leaving a wake in it's recession of the infinitely hidden yet still present quantum field (waters). All three are also Infinities in expanded, 3D relationship to each other. The central point is an unmoving infinity with 1 vector of travel (it is There), the quantum field is an ever present infinity (through out all things) and the spherical light ceiling is an infinity above and below and all around.

Between the central point and spherical ceiling is where manifestation can even be possible to exist.

By this definition is the creation of something (a universe for things to exist in) from the Infinite.

You cannot start with nothing....and then have something, you have to start with Everything to have something.

They are described in vectors of travel...The ceiling has 10, the central point has 1 and is There (not zero dimension), the planck field has 8, and the void between the quantum vectors has 9.

So the 10,9,8 and 1 are all formed in the same instant of expansion/contraction/recession.

The next step shape unfolds 2 vectors and 7 vectors. The next 3 and 4. The next 5. And then finally 6 vectors as Man and Jacobs ladder is complete and we find ourselves already in the middle of it. as 7,8,9 and 10 have already been created.

Post: #11

Dixie Fluffenstien  Wrote:

you say before the beginning was infinity.

the beginning of what? and how is there any proof or any way to logically prove what existed or not before anything/everything began?

if this is not fallacy...i'm not sure what is.

numbers aren't real they are symbols.

the zero chiefs, for example, used the zero to describe the sum of all the energies of all beings, positive and negative, at any one time.

that could very well be your definition of infinity...in which case we are saying the same thing.

to me the zero is the circle, the circle is infinity...., the dynamic stillness from which all arises out of necessity. and to which all returns like the river to the sea once the expression is complete. the journey around is individual and collective.

i think beginnings and endings are human conditions.....like numbers. beginnings and endings symbolize states of mind. the void just is.

Beginning of a space to create in, a subject object relationship, a singular universe as a sphere of "darkness" inside an omnipresent light field.....it's a reverse black hole, OL (omnipresent Light) is pulled apart under it's own will to create.

No circles.... spheres and a point and a grid and a torus and a wheel/skirt and 4 inner nested toroids...all the shape flows that light has to take to unfold it's 7 qualities as vector equilibriums within a fixed volume...the universal sphere.

This is just describing the creation of a universe.....who knows how many have been created and completed....

And there is no zero that comes up or is needed.

Is reality linear like a strings of integers? No it is "3d" and consists many of an whole bunch of spheres in rotations on galactic wheel, in clusters and super cluster who's distribution gives no evidence or directionality to a central big bang. It looks and behaves like a fractal condensate.

Post: #12

A. R. K.  Wrote:

You cannot start with nothing....and then have something, you have to start with Everything to have something.

yes, we are saying the same thing.

my definition of zero is not nothing. it is everything at once which has no charge. void...neutral....not positive not negative. nothing in the sense of individuality perhaps.

the dynamic stillness.

Post: #13

tasha-ann  Wrote:

Ghost of 51:50  Wrote:

Tash!

now then casper hope you are well???

I'm sick. I'm on antibiotics. The doctor thinks I have sinusitis, but I think I got one of dem dare superbugs.

Post: #14

A. R. K.  Wrote:

Dixie Fluffenstien  Wrote:

you say before the beginning was infinity.

the beginning of what? and how is there any proof or any way to logically prove what existed or not before anything/everything began?

if this is not fallacy...i'm not sure what is.

numbers aren't real they are symbols.

the zero chiefs, for example, used the zero to describe the sum of all the energies of all beings, positive and negative, at any one time.

that could very well be your definition of infinity...in which case we are saying the same thing.

to me the zero is the circle, the circle is infinity...., the dynamic stillness from which all arises out of necessity. and to which all returns like the river to the sea once the expression is complete. the journey around is individual and collective.

i think beginnings and endings are human conditions.....like numbers. beginnings and endings symbolize states of mind. the void just is.

Beginning of a space to create in, a subject object relationship, a singular universe as a sphere of "darkness" inside an omnipresent light field.....it's a reverse black hole, OL (omnipresent Light) is pulled apart under it's own will to create.

No circles.... spheres and a point and a grid and a torus and a wheel/skirt and 4 inner nested toroids...all the shape flows that light has to take to unfold it's 7 qualities as vector equilibriums within a fixed volume...the universal sphere.

This is just describing the creation of a universe.....who knows how many have been created and completed....

And there is no zero that comes up or is needed.

Is reality linear like a strings of integers? No it is "3d" and consists many of an whole bunch of spheres in rotations on galactic wheel, in clusters and super cluster who's distribution gives no evidence or directionality to a central big bang. It looks and behaves like a fractal condensate.

you are defining zero as a number or symbol.
i define it as a state of being.

the subjective vector equilibrium of the universal pattern that is continuously unfolding in toroidal fashion. it is beginning and end but we cannot experience this objectively, in the same way we cannot experience the wetness of water, or the heat of a flame objectively.

Post: #15

Dixie Fluffenstien  Wrote:

yes, we are saying the same thing.

my definition of zero is not nothing. it is everything at once which has no charge. void...neutral....not positive not negative. nothing in the sense of individuality perhaps.

the dynamic stillness.

I see what you are describing...

In my understanding, the creation inside the universe has a positive charge because it is still being "poured into" from the surrounding Omnipresent Light Field (Inifinity and the Beings the reside there on)...and that itself is also an over unity...