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**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 114815 09-15-2012 09:24 PM

I think on these type things all the time. It's fascinating food for thought. I'll share some of mine:

The Bible says the Creator "God" is the one who was, is and always will exist, the one who has no beginning nor end. So, if we take this to be true, then zero is a human construct having no substance or reality except to stand for something we can not fathom -- like other colors besides those comprised of yellow, blue, red, black or white.

Or, perhaps God, like humans, had a time before being conscious of himself as the sole "I am", or the I that is, was and will be. When God became self aware 1 or I was realized. Prior to self awareness there was only the consciousness like that of a small child experiencing the world outside the womb for the first time. It was aware, it just couldn't fathom or contemplate awareness itself.

Here's something else I mull over: binary, 1 and 0. Two optional states of being, on or off, yes or no, dark or light, etc., each of which can only exist in the absence of the other. So who determines which state of being exists at any given time?

This one -- the only one -- above the two opposites must be God Almighty, the One True God and Father (switch-flipper) of all.

Fascinating stuff!

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 114815 09-15-2012 09:29 PM

Dixie Fluffenstien Wrote:

A. R. K. Wrote:
You cannot start with nothing....and then have something, you have to start with Everything to have something.

yes, we are saying the same thing.

my definition of zero is not nothing. it is everything at once which has no charge. void...neutral....not positive not negative. nothing in the sense of individuality perhaps.

the dynamic stillness.

But as scientists say, even at absolute zero, when all things cease movement, an energy remains vibrating.

**A. R. K.**

LoP Guest Wrote:

Dixie Fluffenstien Wrote:
A. R. K. Wrote:
You cannot start with nothing....and then have something, you have to start with Everything to have something.

yes, we are saying the same thing.

my definition of zero is not nothing. it is everything at once which has no charge. void...neutral....not positive not negative. nothing in the sense of individuality perhaps.

the dynamic stillness.

But as scientists say, even at absolute zero, when all things cease movement, an energy remains vibrating.

Yes the quantum Planck field....and in it's tensor strength compared to ours....we are like a sound wave traveling through steel!

Or light through diamond....

**tasha-ann** lop guest User ID: 117172 09-15-2012 11:00 PM

LoP Guest Wrote:

I think on these type things all the time. It's fascinating food for thought. I'll share some of mine:

The Bible says the Creator "God" is the one who was, is and always will exist, the one who has no beginning nor end. So, if we take this to be true, then zero is a human construct having no substance or reality except to stand for something we can not fathom -- like other colors besides those comprised of yellow, blue, red, black or white.

Or, perhaps God, like humans, had a time before being conscious of himself as the sole "I am", or the I that is, was and will be. When God became self aware 1 or I was realized. Prior to self awareness there was only the consciousness like that of a small child experiencing the world outside the womb for the first time. It was aware, it just couldn't fathom or contemplate awareness itself.

Here's something else I mull over: binary, 1 and 0. Two optional states of being, on or off, yes or no, dark or light, etc., each of which can only exist in the absence of the other. So who determines which state of being exists at any given time?

This one -- the only one -- above the two opposites must be God Almighty, the One True God and Father (switch-flipper) of all.

Fascinating stuff!

I like this ^^^^^^^^ a lot Hugs

**tasha-ann** lop guest User ID: 117172 09-15-2012 11:04 PM

A. R. K. Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
Dixie Fluffenstien Wrote:
yes, we are saying the same thing.

my definition of zero is not nothing. it is everything at once which has no charge. void...neutral....not positive not negative. nothing in the sense of individuality perhaps.

the dynamic stillness.

But as scientists say, even at absolute zero, when all things cease movement, an energy remains vibrating.

Yes the quantum Planck field....and in it's tensor strength compared to ours....we are like a sound wave traveling through steel!

Or light through diamond....

thing is once you remove the physical constraints of reality as we know it and instead focus on the conscious mind then all rules falter and anything becomes possible. You need not use the term science it is finite and the mind is not. Hugs