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**CooterBrown** · (This post was last modified: 07-31-2012 09:19 PM by CooterBrown.)

SuzieQ Wrote:

One scientist, at The CDC, who was in charge of determining if there was a link between mercury and autism. It's a clear case of corruption among the "scientific" community on a major issue.

As I said, one scientist among millions, who misappropriated funds. You
want to deny the overwhelming statistical evidence of the effectiveness of
all vaccinations world-wide for the past century based on that alone?

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**SuzieQ** lop guest User ID: 109174 07-31-2012 09:23 PM

CooterBrown Wrote:

SuzieQ Wrote:
One scientist, at The CDC, who was in charge of determining if there was a link between mercury and autism. It's a clear case of corruption among the "scientific" community on a major issue.

As I said, one scientist among millions, who misappropriated funds. You
want to deny the overwhelming statistical evidence of the effectiveness of
all vaccinations world-wide for the past century based on that alone?

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As I said, one scientist who "misappropriated" funds in reference to the link between mercury and autism. THAT is a big deal, as the autism rate, according to The CDC, is now 1 in 88 children.

I have done a good deal of research on the truth about vaccines. How about we agree to disagree?

**CooterBrown** · (This post was last modified: 07-31-2012 09:47 PM by CooterBrown.)

SuzieQ Wrote:

As I said, one scientist who "misappropriated" funds in reference to the link between mercury and autism. THAT is a big deal, as the autism rate, according to The CDC, is now 1 in 88 children.

I have done a good deal of research on the truth about vaccines. How about we agree to disagree?

It's not as big a deal as you think. One scientist among how many
who are working on autism? And again, it would be foolhardy at
best to deny the evidence of the effectiveness of vaccinations
world-wide over the past hundred years in comparison to the
damage wrought prior to their use, and in light of the very small
percentage of adverse side-effects.

I do not doubt that autism is on the rise, as our environment is full
of all kinds of pollutants accumulated by the corporate industrial
complex since industrialization began. But that is scant evidence
sufficient to condemn all vaccinations. And to do so is not only
irrational, but irresponsible. And the same questionable reasoning
is used to support all the dubious culling conspiracies bandied about
on the Fringe.

Of course we can agree to disagree.
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**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 44068 07-31-2012 11:07 PM

Arguing whether vaccines do any good or not is specious. The problem with vaccines that causes autism is the mercury in them. Remove all the mercury and autism will vanish. We know this since we cure autism by chelating mercury out of the brain.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 98692 08-01-2012 12:39 AM

Cooter never mentions the adverse reactions to the polio
vaccines. No cover up there involving cancer, because they
don't admit to having contaminated products and well, cancer
that could be environmental, right?.... SV40 is floating around everywhere.

They still won't admit that flu vaccines cause flu. All those people who
got sick days after their shots MUST have already been exposed!!!!!!!

That's because flu shots don't spread the viruses they contain. Anon

And the adverse reaction reports, well, they only refer to the next three
days after a shot. Science knows without a doubt that any autism, or
other auto-immune problem would show up in three days, or A WEEK.

How about long-term studies?

Maybe you should read this about hep B.
http://www.vaclib.org/email/hepbdang.htm
excerpt...
"In my detailed investigation over the past four years it is apparent to me, (as well as others who have been investigating this) that adequate long term follow up information was not collected in clinical trials for this vaccine. This is especially true with respect to the Caucasian populations in which many of these adverse effects would have predictably been observed. In any event, the vaccine inserts which give long lists of serious potential side effects, which I have been told that physicians do not show or discuss with their patients, are ominous!"

MT lop guest User ID: 8872 08-01-2012 01:22 AM

You should read the suppressed CDC study findings on thimerosal and NDDs conducted by Verstraeten in 1999.

http://legacy.autism.com/triggers/vaccin...letter.htm

"...The first version of the study, produced in February 2000, found a significant association between exposure to thimerosal-containing vaccines and autism and neurological developmental delays (NDDs). When comparing children exposed to 62.5 µg of mercury by 3 months of age to those exposed to less than 37.5 µg, the study found a relative risk for autism of 2.48 for those with a higher exposure level. (While not significant in the 95 percent confidence interval for autism, this meets the legal standard of proof exceeding 2.0.) For NDDs the study found a relative risk of 1.59 and a definite upward trend as exposure levels increased...."

"...In June 2000 a meeting was held in Simpsonwood, GA involving the authors of the study, representatives of the CDC and the vaccine industry. I have reviewed a transcript of this meeting that was obtained through the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA). Comments from the Simpsonwood meeting include (summary form, not direct quotes):

We found a statistically significant relationship between exposures and outcomes. There is certainly an under ascertainment of adverse outcomes because some children are just simply not old enough to be diagnosed, the current incidence rates are much lower than we would expect to see (Verstraeten)

We could exclude the lowest exposure children from our database. Also suggested was removing the children that got the highest exposure levels since they represented an unusually high percentage of the outcomes (Rhodes)

The significant association with language delay is quite large. (Verstraeten);

This information should be kept confidential and considered embargoed

We can push and pull this data anyway we want to get the results we want

We can alter the exclusion criteria any way we want, give reasonable justifications for doing so, and get any result we want

There was really no need to do this study. We could have predicted the outcomes

I will not give TCVs to my grandson until I find out what is going on here..."

**Pope Barbie Imaculata**

Anyone who thinks vaccines are not harmful needs to ask one question. What profit is there for big pharma to keep us healthy? Healthy does not sell expensive medications. They want us sick and sick for the long term. Vaccines are the perfect way to make sure they have future customers.

When Billions of dollars are at stake a CEO will be a killer. If you doubt that you are a fool.

**ButtonsAren'tToys**

Mike Wrote:

My boy starts school very soon and I'll soon be handing over the mandatory immunization requirements form with my son's vaccine history on it along with the box checked that he was not given some due to "moral, philosophical or other personal beliefs" as they write it. I already know that from that point forward the school administration will view me as the enemy and as a threat. Not looking forward to dealing with the school system, this is my first and only child and given everything I've been hearing about public schools now days combined with my views... I can already tell there are going to be some butting heads.

not so much
the squeaky wheel gets the grease. Just sign your papers, nod and say little, be polite and remember that they really can't say much to you. But if they do, you can certainly remind them that even inquiring into your philosophical ideals indicates a breach. They really aren't even allowed to ask you what you believe. If they do, I recommend you contact whatever department of Education, division of civil rights closest to you. Heartflowers

**Tyche Unleashed**

Goldilocks Wrote:

SuzieQ when "they" are on your ass, then you know you are in the right direction. You post some great info, don't let them stop you

I am forwarding this article.I have family members who say they understand that they have to be more watchful of any vacs but turn right around and load the babies up anyway.
They blame outside pressure.Well-I can be a force of outside pressure as well to protect the children in my family.