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**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 39125 04-14-2012 09:38 AM

"Montpelier - The Vermont State Senate voted today calling for an amendment to the Constitution that would make clear that corporations are not people and money is not speech and can be regulated in political campaigns. The vote was 26-3. State Senator Virginia Lyons (D) spearheaded the effort, working with Move to Amend in 2011 to introduce a resolution that came back this year.

Vermont is poised to become the first state to call for an amendment to abolish the doctrine known as “Corporate Personhood” which gives corporations constitutional rights meant to protect people.

Hawaii and New Mexico have passed resolutions against the Citizens United v. FEC ruling by the Supreme Court, but the Vermont resolution goes beyond simply overturning that case and aims to remove corporations from the constitution altogether and make clear that money is not speech and that campaign spending and political contributions can be regulated by the government.

“Citizens across the country are putting Congress and the Supreme Court on notice that an amendment is coming. Legislatures can either join the Movement to Amend or get out of the way," stated Kaitlin Sopoci-Belknap of Move to Amend. "Americans of all political persuasions are on board with an amendment to put We the People in charge of our government, not corporations. It is great to have the Vermont Senate step up to join the cause.""

http://truth-out.org/news/item/8517-verm...personhood

**Texas Uncensored**

Another one for Ron Paul ! This is great news! Cheer

Mitt was so sure that corporations were people. He told a small crowd of people that corporations are people, and he got heckled and boo'd. hehe

**Convicted Criminal**

But isn't the Vermont State Senate a kind of corporation too ? It isn't just one person, it's a body of elected representatives.

**GUANO**

Convicted Criminal Wrote:

But isn't the Vermont State Senate a kind of corporation too ? It isn't just one person, it's a body of elected representatives.

come to think of it... isn't the united states a corporation?

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 67097 04-14-2012 04:15 PM

GUANO Wrote:

Convicted Criminal Wrote:
But isn't the Vermont State Senate a kind of corporation too ? It isn't just one person, it's a body of elected representatives.

come to think of it... isn't the united states a corporation?

Along these lines thank you for your threads on the golem and egregore.

http://www.lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-Intr...e-Egregore

http://www.lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-MODE...orld-today

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 82410 04-14-2012 07:31 PM

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 90352 04-14-2012 07:57 PM

GUANO Wrote:

Convicted Criminal Wrote:
But isn't the Vermont State Senate a kind of corporation too ? It isn't just one person, it's a body of elected representatives.

come to think of it... isn't the united states a corporation?

yes, it is, and one could make the legal argument that individuals are under no obligation to do what a private company tells them to do, nor would a private company have any standing as a republican form of official government.

spread that around to the troops that are refusing orders. maybe it will help with someone's defense.

**gOO~**

Vermont has some real thinkers on her land! She is progressive in many ways.
It would be an honor to live there. I would in a second if I could do the weather, lol

**Twatwaffle** lop guest User ID: 58882 04-14-2012 08:37 PM

This is allegedly a resolution that calls for a Constitutional Amendment, not a law which outlaws "corporate personhood" within the State of Vermont.

Perhaps someone can find a link to the actual resolution at the VT legislature website--- I can't.

Anon

**Luvapottamus**

Twatwaffle Wrote:

This is allegedly a resolution that calls for a Constitutional Amendment, not a law which outlaws "corporate personhood" within the State of Vermont.

Perhaps someone can find a link to the actual resolution at the VT legislature website--- I can't.

Can't find it either. Only shitty reporting with no citation.

Alternet had a dead link to Reuters. Maybe they(Reuters) named it.

I can't find that article either.

**counter knowledge** lop guest User ID: 89384 04-14-2012 09:28 PM

GUANO Wrote:

Convicted Criminal Wrote:
But isn't the Vermont State Senate a kind of corporation too ? It isn't just one person, it's a body of elected representatives.

come to think of it... isn't the united states a corporation?

The corporation of the East India Company!

The US flag is the East India Company's ensign!

**Luvapottamus**

counter knowledge Wrote:

GUANO Wrote:
Convicted Criminal Wrote:
But isn't the Vermont State Senate a kind of corporation too ? It isn't just one person, it's a body of elected representatives.

come to think of it... isn't the united states a corporation?

The corporation of the East India Company!

The US flag is the East India Company's ensign!

Just about all cities, towns, and villages are incorporated.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 40826 04-14-2012 09:54 PM

Luvapottamus Wrote:

counter knowledge Wrote:
GUANO Wrote:
come to think of it... isn't the united states a corporation?

The corporation of the East India Company!

The US flag is the East India Company's ensign!

Just about all cities, towns, and villages are incorporated.

I wouldn't doubt at all that would follow suit.
Once the people are no longer corporations, then the government can go back to whatever it was before the Uniform Commercial Code became the law of the land.

Hurraay!

**Luvapottamus**

LoP Guest Wrote:

Luvapottamus Wrote:
counter knowledge Wrote:

The corporation of the East India Company!

The US flag is the East India Company's ensign!

Just about all cities, towns, and villages are incorporated.

I wouldn't doubt at all that would follow suit.
Once the people are no longer corporations, then the government can go back to whatever it was before the Uniform Commercial Code became the law of the land.

Hurraay!

Sounds great to me!

You could still have corporations, they just wouldn't have equal rights. As it should be.

I'm not holding my breath though. Looks like Reuters scrubbed their story.

chuckle

**Free Range Humans**

counter knowledge Wrote:

GUANO Wrote:
Convicted Criminal Wrote:
But isn't the Vermont State Senate a kind of corporation too ? It isn't just one person, it's a body of elected representatives.

come to think of it... isn't the united states a corporation?

The corporation of the East India Company!

The US flag is the East India Company's ensign!

I've read that, could you post a link to a comprehensive and respectable source. I'd like to give it another look in light of this new development in Vermont..