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WHy do some people still believe the earths core is molten iron????
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 87387 04-28-2012 02:02 PM
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RE: WHy do some people still believe the earths core is molten iron????
Gibbie Wrote:It isn't a theory they've charted iron's phase diagram with diamond anvil cells, tetra headral anvil cells, and belt presses.
I'd trust Percy Bridgeman over some AC on this one.
Yes, you do that (they always need a crowd to cheer them on, to worship at their feet, and praise their godliness over us mere mortals....
It cannot be "validated" until the core is reached.. science demands "validation"... not just a laboratory example..
Case in point;
man could not fly, but a theory ran around the room, and suddenly we had "physical proof" worked out to be able to be repeated by independent innovators themselves..
The earth was flat, until "physical proof" showed it was not, and was validated by spices, plants, and other items "foreign" to the country of origin was brought back, and then :verified again, by independent explorers themselves...
The longest running theory was that the sun circled the earth, the last century, when communications could validate the sun as the central core of this solar system with the voyager projects, as up until then, it was an act of "faith" never discussed, but hoped everything was correct in the logical deductive theories presented as facts (without validations)
Somewhere along the 1800's, we started slipping away from reality, and are more into virtual reality (even the Patent office would only accept working models when it first opened, later to be bastardized by changing it to only needing the designs to garner a patent)
We need to return to this, because our innovations have almost stopped altogether, and we spend more time regurgitating old world technologies, and concepts because of our self imposed degradation as a society..
Bridgeman produced a validation of a "method" of reproducing his theoretical work, but it does not, nor cannot apply to the earth core, until "validation is achieved...
Thats real science...
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Luvapottamus Registered User User ID: 82349 04-28-2012 02:18 PM
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~ lop guest User ID: 73179 04-28-2012 02:25 PM
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RE: WHy do some people still believe the earths core is molten iron????
What modern science does not seem to realize is that any large rotating gravitational mass creates a magnetic field which may then be amplified further by processes within a planet ...magnetism essentially being a gravitational field given direction... a vector. If one could recombine opposing magnetic fields gravity would be the result.
...and the truth about our core is that there is a particular small size matter producing black hole that appears as a solid core since we cannot measure through the surrounding shell. This black hole produces matter through a hawking radiation process ...the smaller the event horizon the greater particles are thrown off as the hole evaporates and when you get down to planetary size black holes enough particles are being thrown off that they form matter as we are familiar with it. This continuous outward pressure prevents anything from being sucked in which is why the planet is not destroyed and also why if something like cern managed to create a black hole it would merely sink to the center of the earth and get swallowed by the hole already there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJfBSc6e7QQ
Laugh all you guys want but my theory is sound.
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Rager lop guest User ID: 92874 04-28-2012 02:29 PM
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RE: WHy do some people still believe the earths core is molten iron????
It's made of sea monsters.
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Clever Trevor Retarded user User ID: 93197 04-28-2012 03:16 PM
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RE: WHy do some people still believe the earths core is molten iron????
LoP Guest Wrote:DanfromtheHills Wrote:Downunder Wrote:What comes out of volcanoes??????
Delicious magma.
When it is in the tube, it is still magma, when it hits atmo, it is "lava"...
It's not impossible for microbes to exist there.. look up "Starlite".. the idiot discovered by accident an "organic" compound matrix that allowed 10,000c to be withstood by just coating the object with this stuff..
Secret died with him because of his selfish greed, and in return?.. we now have many more deaths that could have been avoided, happening right now...
Point is, microbes could have the same organic matrix (or similar) for a shell..
If we had Starlite now, people could walk through lava without being harmed.. So microbes can exist in that environment...
You mean this.....
Starlite
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/51...world.html
Unless this plastic contained rare elements, It could probably be made extremely cheaply and could have quite possibly seen an end to the nuclear arms race....
Very sad, greedy selfish bastard, how different the world could have been by now. Should have been made open source.....
First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.
Then they came for the socialists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me.
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 87387 04-28-2012 07:45 PM
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RE: WHy do some people still believe the earths core is molten iron????
~ Wrote:What modern science does not seem to realize is that any large rotating gravitational mass creates a magnetic field which may then be amplified further by processes within a planet ...magnetism essentially being a gravitational field given direction... a vector. If one could recombine opposing magnetic fields gravity would be the result.
...and the truth about our core is that there is a particular small size matter producing black hole that appears as a solid core since we cannot measure through the surrounding shell. This black hole produces matter through a hawking radiation process ...the smaller the event horizon the greater particles are thrown off as the hole evaporates and when you get down to planetary size black holes enough particles are being thrown off that they form matter as we are familiar with it. This continuous outward pressure prevents anything from being sucked in which is why the planet is not destroyed and also why if something like cern managed to create a black hole it would merely sink to the center of the earth and get swallowed by the hole already there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJfBSc6e7QQ
Laugh all you guys want but my theory is sound.
Who's laughing?..
But (once again)... where is you "proof?".. where is the validated evidence in "physical form" to backup your claims?.. if we have no proof to begin with, no physical examples, it is not even a theory, but a "hypothetical" using suppositions to backup your claims, in other words "no proof whatsoever"...
Real Science is a b*tch, it is a long, hard struggle, to bring to realization (reality_.. and all the pie in the sky, logical deductive reasoning, cannot bring this into reality, simply on an "idea"...
Where is the hard labor needed to prove your point?...
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 87387 04-28-2012 07:48 PM
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RE: WHy do some people still believe the earths core is molten iron????
Clever Trevor Wrote:You mean this.....
Starlite
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/51...world.html
Unless this plastic contained rare elements, It could probably be made extremely cheaply and could have quite possibly seen an end to the nuclear arms race....
Very sad, greedy selfish bastard, how different the world could have been by now. Should have been made open source.....
My answer was to the one asking about how microbial life could exist in such conditions... hence the answer about Starlite as a possible solution to that question posed..
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 80046 04-28-2012 07:54 PM
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RE: WHy do some people still believe the earths core is molten iron????
Quote:The whole damn arrangement is based upon a gravitational "constant" to entropy (zero) being at the very center of the earth core,...
Fascinating. ^This^ resembles English, but it makes no objective sense.
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 87387 04-28-2012 08:07 PM
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RE: WHy do some people still believe the earths core is molten iron????
LoP Guest Wrote:Quote:The whole damn arrangement is based upon a gravitational "constant" to entropy (zero) being at the very center of the earth core,...
Fascinating. ^This^ resembles English, but it makes no objective sense.
O.K. (getting out the bottle)...
Gravitational constant, is a measurement of gravity, from outer atmosphere, to center of the earth as being a constant value..
Entropy (at state of rest, also known as order and mathematically as zero)..
If you drew a line from the outer atmosphere, to the center of the earth, and plug in the gravitational constant (variable), you end up with a "Gravitational constant to entropy (zero) being at the very center of the earth core (as an order of measurement) which is of course all "hypothetical" done by the science community..
(taking out the bottle) there there.. need to be burped?...
Really?.. you have a hard time reading huh?... not going to hold your hand.. thats how we ended up the way we are today as a society...
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Axx lop guest User ID: 93236 04-28-2012 08:34 PM
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RE: WHy do some people still believe the earths core is molten iron????
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 73179 04-28-2012 11:33 PM
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RE: WHy do some people still believe the earths core is molten iron????
LoP Guest Wrote:~ Wrote:What modern science does not seem to realize is that any large rotating gravitational mass creates a magnetic field which may then be amplified further by processes within a planet ...magnetism essentially being a gravitational field given direction... a vector. If one could recombine opposing magnetic fields gravity would be the result.
...and the truth about our core is that there is a particular small size matter producing black hole that appears as a solid core since we cannot measure through the surrounding shell. This black hole produces matter through a hawking radiation process ...the smaller the event horizon the greater particles are thrown off as the hole evaporates and when you get down to planetary size black holes enough particles are being thrown off that they form matter as we are familiar with it. This continuous outward pressure prevents anything from being sucked in which is why the planet is not destroyed and also why if something like cern managed to create a black hole it would merely sink to the center of the earth and get swallowed by the hole already there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJfBSc6e7QQ
Laugh all you guys want but my theory is sound.
Who's laughing?..
But (once again)... where is you "proof?".. where is the validated evidence in "physical form" to backup your claims?.. if we have no proof to begin with, no physical examples, it is not even a theory, but a "hypothetical" using suppositions to backup your claims, in other words "no proof whatsoever"...
Real Science is a b*tch, it is a long, hard struggle, to bring to realization (reality_.. and all the pie in the sky, logical deductive reasoning, cannot bring this into reality, simply on an "idea"...
Where is the hard labor needed to prove your point?...
Hard labor would require the survey of other planets including their interior for starters and/or possibly an experiment involving artificially spinning a large enough mass that has measurable gravity to see if a magnetic field can be detected that wasn't there before. Other dynamics may be at play as well. My theory only really explains the seed magnetic field which could further be concentrated by materials inside a planet such as mono-atomics which are superconductoring when hot instead cold.
The growing Earth part of it however I think speaks for it's self as it solves so many of the problems current theories have. It explains perfectly how the plates used to fit together and possibly things like the extinction of dinosaurs and why life overall is possess smaller forms then it once did. Main stream science simply can not accept a theory such as this as they have no understanding of how matter could be created. They are only capable of accepting that elements can recombine into new ones within stars. To them even the smallest of black holes are the same as their larger relatives ...endless swallowing everything. Which is simply not the case but derived from the only ones they have been able to observe so far. Perhaps if Cern managed to create a tiny ones they could observe it for at least a few microseconds before it pops and measure the kind and quantity of particles it would throw off.
All I am doing is putting two and two together from known observations and theories which add up to a clearer picture today that the ignorant indoctrinated mainstream science is simply not capable of accepting because it contradicts all of their life's "hard work" up till now.
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 87387 04-29-2012 12:34 AM
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RE: WHy do some people still believe the earths core is molten iron????
LoP Guest Wrote:Hard labor would require the survey of other planets including their interior for starters and/or possibly an experiment involving artificially spinning a large enough mass that has measurable gravity to see if a magnetic field can be detected that wasn't there before. Other dynamics may be at play as well. My theory only really explains the seed magnetic field which could further be concentrated by materials inside a planet such as mono-atomics which are superconductoring when hot instead cold.
The growing Earth part of it however I think speaks for it's self as it solves so many of the problems current theories have. It explains perfectly how the plates used to fit together and possibly things like the extinction of dinosaurs and why life overall is possess smaller forms then it once did. Main stream science simply can not accept a theory such as this as they have no understanding of how matter could be created. They are only capable of accepting that elements can recombine into new ones within stars. To them even the smallest of black holes are the same as their larger relatives ...endless swallowing everything. Which is simply not the case but derived from the only ones they have been able to observe so far. Perhaps if Cern managed to create a tiny ones they could observe it for at least a few microseconds before it pops and measure the kind and quantity of particles it would throw off.
All I am doing is putting two and two together from known observations and theories which add up to a clearer picture today that the ignorant indoctrinated mainstream science is simply not capable of accepting because it contradicts all of their life's "hard work" up till now.
The problem "STILL" is: "Without validation", it is just a theory or a hypothetical, not a fact or "THE" method it works, simply an idea, and only an idea...
It is not lambasting your POV, it is simply that Science is without judgment, without moral, and without a soul, it cannot be anything else then what it simply "IS" in the "physicality" of this 3D world we live through...
The minute you have to waffle through and try to "prop up" your POV, your theory/hypothetical, is the minute you are off course..
There is NOTHING you have said, to validate what you say.. You can have lab experiments, great reviews of the experiments, but without a Comparison "WITH" the subject matter explored as theory/hypothetical, you cannot say it is realized and remain within any degree of truth..
The end result of all experiments, is a physical model, able to be replicated by any third party observer when doing a "comparison" with the object being questioned, thus "validating" your life's work..
This gives you ground to stand on, and proof of concept..
Everything else is second best....
As I said: "Science is a b*tch"..
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