Quote:“But, Jacob, we beat the Nazis. Doesn’t that mean that we won World War II?”

Not exactly. You see, it turns on the meaning of the pronoun “we.” By “we” the interventionists mean “Great Britain, France, the United States, and the Soviet Union.”

But if you break down that pronoun into its individual parts, you immediately notice a problem. Great Britain, France, and the United States didn’t win the war. The Soviet Union did.

Let’s think back to who declared war on whom. When Germany and the Soviet Union invaded Poland, Great Britain and France declared war on Germany, not the other way around. Why did they do that? Their announced goal was to free the Polish people from Nazi tyranny.

Why didn’t they also declare war on the Soviet Union, given that it too had invaded Poland? Good question! The interventionists never have an answer to that one.

interesting way of looking at it. that would make a bit more sense if communism became the main political view in europe after world war 2, but it didn't.

if germany, italy, and japan had won the war, fascism would've taken all of the European countries that fell.

Good find Op. It was a sham alright. The Americans were purposely held back from taking Eastern Europe so the Commies could come in and clean house. For those who do their homework, it's all there in black and white....

Dino  Wrote:

Good find Op. It was a sham alright. The Americans were purposely held back from taking Eastern Europe so the Commies could come in and clean house. For those who do their homework, it's all there in black and white....

General Patton's memoirs confirm this. Something you don't hear mentioned in the history books:

General Patton: We backed the wrong side.

"...and all Europe will be communist. It's said that for the first week after they took it (Berlin), all women who ran were shot and those
who did not were raped. I could have taken it (instead of the Soviets) had I been allowed...."

http://www.666ismoney.com/Patton.html

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Dino  Wrote:

Good find Op. It was a sham alright. The Americans were purposely held back from taking Eastern Europe so the Commies could come in and clean house. For those who do their homework, it's all there in black and white....

General Patton's memoirs confirm this. Something you don't hear mentioned in the history books:

General Patton: We backed the wrong side.

"...and all Europe will be communist. It's said that for the first week after they took it (Berlin), all women who ran were shot and those
who did not were raped. I could have taken it (instead of the Soviets) had I been allowed...."

http://www.666ismoney.com/Patton.html

Fascinating article. From reading it I'm under the impression that the reason two divide Germany into two was to be able to make all of Europe accessible for Bolsheviks and their ideology...

Thanks Dino, Rager, and guest.

I was fooled for a long time thinking that my Grandparents and their generation saved the world for democracy, but it was so blatantly obvious that they didn't really. From Nazi occupation to Communist occupation, Eastern Europe was lost.

Strategos  Wrote:

Thanks Dino, Rager, and guest.

I was fooled for a long time thinking that my Grandparents and their generation saved the world for democracy, but it was so blatantly obvious that they didn't really. From Nazi occupation to Communist occupation, Eastern Europe was lost.

So true, though we really can't blame our Grandparents per se, they really couldn't do anything about it and the deception must have been hard to see through. They didn't have the internet back in those days, no LOP...

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General Patton's memoirs confirm this. Something you don't hear mentioned in the history books:

General Patton: We backed the wrong side.

"...and all Europe will be communist. It's said that for the first week after they took it (Berlin), all women who ran were shot and those
who did not were raped. I could have taken it (instead of the Soviets) had I been allowed...."

http://www.666ismoney.com/Patton.html

Fascinating article. From reading it I'm under the impression that the reason two divide Germany into two was to be able to make all of Europe accessible for Bolsheviks and their ideology...

Yep. The threat of Communism would have ended then and there had they listened to Patton, but that wasn't in the plan, so Eisenhower ordered him to stand down.

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Strategos  Wrote:

Thanks Dino, Rager, and guest.

I was fooled for a long time thinking that my Grandparents and their generation saved the world for democracy, but it was so blatantly obvious that they didn't really. From Nazi occupation to Communist occupation, Eastern Europe was lost.

So true, though we really can't blame our Grandparents per se, they really couldn't do anything about it and the deception must have been hard to see through. They didn't have the internet back in those days, no LOP...

True, but I blame myself for not asking the question that I subconsciously ignored "If we defeated Hitler, why wasn't ALL of Europe free?

It is one of the paradigms that we have been programmed with. Like not being able to see a hammer on the table in front of you after you have been looking for ten minutes, because you were programmed to not see the hammer.

Like being programmed to be blind.

http://www.fff.org/blog/jghblog2012-02-16.asp

Quote:“But, Jacob, we beat the Nazis. Doesn’t that mean that we won World War II?”

Not exactly. You see, it turns on the meaning of the pronoun “we.” By “we” the interventionists mean “Great Britain, France, the United States, and the Soviet Union.”

But if you break down that pronoun into its individual parts, you immediately notice a problem. Great Britain, France, and the United States didn’t win the war. The Soviet Union did.

Let’s think back to who declared war on whom. When Germany and the Soviet Union invaded Poland, Great Britain and France declared war on Germany, not the other way around. Why did they do that? Their announced goal was to free the Polish people from Nazi tyranny.

Why didn’t they also declare war on the Soviet Union, given that it too had invaded Poland? Good question! The interventionists never have an answer to that one.

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http://www.fff.org/blog/jghblog2012-02-16.asp

Quote:“But, Jacob, we beat the Nazis. Doesn’t that mean that we won World War II?”

Not exactly. You see, it turns on the meaning of the pronoun “we.” By “we” the interventionists mean “Great Britain, France, the United States, and the Soviet Union.”

But if you break down that pronoun into its individual parts, you immediately notice a problem. Great Britain, France, and the United States didn’t win the war. The Soviet Union did.

Let’s think back to who declared war on whom. When Germany and the Soviet Union invaded Poland, Great Britain and France declared war on Germany, not the other way around. Why did they do that? Their announced goal was to free the Polish people from Nazi tyranny.

Why didn’t they also declare war on the Soviet Union, given that it too had invaded Poland? Good question! The interventionists never have an answer to that one.

WWII: Keeping the world safe for Jewry!

Let’s think back to who declared war on whom. 'Judea declares war on Germany' back in '33. Look it up.

Why didn’t they also declare war on the Soviet Union, given that it too had invaded Poland? Because the Soviet Union was under the control of International Jewry, as was the 'West', and they had to get rid of Germany because it stood in their way of world domination through Communism (Jewish).

Great Britain, France, and the United States didn’t win the war. International Jewry did.