Post: #121

JUPITER IGNITION!!!!

Post: #122

shrinkage because of drought doing it
water meters that were flush or below ground level here
are now exposed by 3-4 inches
major cracks all over in the ground
ground shrinkage putting pressure on and pulling pipes apart
me and a buddy just were wondering why there wasn't more of this happening...
then saw this thread
it is !!!!

Post: #123

Curious about today's news already, I found the following happened yesterday;

Another in Strongsville, Ohio.

"Margevicius said Strongsville's pipe system is only about 36 years old, compared to the city of Cleveland's, which is more than 150 years old."
http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_n...ville-area

Baltimore (with a cool little video)
http://www.foxbaltimore.com/newsroom/top...4470.shtml

Corpus Christi
http://www.kristv.com/news/water-main-br...tyPhoto/0/

New Braunfels, TX had two:

"One other note: NBU is also reminding residents that even though we are still in Stage 2 water restrictions, the Edwards Aquifer J-17 well continues to drop at a rapid pace, and Stage 3 could be implemented very soon. To hear Reuwer's comments on that pending situation, just click the Audio Clip link below."
http://kgnb.am/news/nbu-locates-and-repa...ay-morning

Dallas had a HUGE one (with video that has a reporter who needs more air time)

"The current heat wave could be behind the water main break. Repair crews said that when it gets this hot outside, pipes can crack and break."
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Water-M...48646.html

Montreal had one that damaged cars...
http://www.montrealgazette.com/Broken+wa...story.html

Denver
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/c...rs-traffic

Big one in Topeka, KS
http://www.ksnt.com/news/local/story/Wat...dZ6OQ.cspx

From an article talking about the breaks in Philly;
""People use more water in the summer. People water their lawns. And one of the biggest stresses we've seen is (from open) hydrants," he said.
Neukrug says an open hydrant can contribute to the pressure that will blow out a pipe."
http://www.newsworks.org/index.php/local...pstorylist

Neukrug also cites the heat and aging infrastructure.





I'm sure this happens all the time and I'm not trying to start post links to every water main that goes boom. But it does seem to be going off like crazy right now and taking steps to safeguard you and your friends seems smart.

Might want to move precious belongs out of the basement, ya know?

Post: #124

At first i thought it said "Obama Water Main Breaks"

Post: #125

LoP Guest  Wrote:

Expanding Earth theory, for sure.

Drought would not answer for the rise in water main breaks in previous years. Now this is not just my theory. This is the cause for the ground rising and causing huge cracks on peoples property.

The ground shifts and underground rivers, streams are cut off, like squeezing a long narrow balloon it bulges. The bulge from the interrupted flow pushes the ground up more quickly thus the huge deep cracks. Now if this takes place how much would the ground have to rise to crack the mains?. Keep in mind we have been having huge sink holes in areas all over the world.

I read up yesterday about the 1811 EQ in New Madrid fault line area. Many eye witness reports of the ground at one point getting huge cracks, then water just shooting up out of the ground.

Could the water underground be cut off from flowing then pool saturating the ground and the end result a possible sink hole?.

Had a drought for over 9 years in North Dakota, was horrible for the economy and not much news on it. Did not notice water main breaks on the rise or real deep cracks.

Post: #126

Full Circle  Wrote:

That's crazy. People might say aging infrastructure, but how does that explain the dramatic rise for this year?

closed system under pressure, aging

makes total sense

San Diego went thru a spate of those 10 years ago

Post: #127

TurtleCreeWoman  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

Expanding Earth theory, for sure.

Drought would not answer for the rise in water main breaks in previous years. Now this is not just my theory. This is the cause for the ground rising and causing huge cracks on peoples property.

The ground shifts and underground rivers, streams are cut off, like squeezing a long narrow balloon it bulges. The bulge from the interrupted flow pushes the ground up more quickly thus the huge deep cracks. Now if this takes place how much would the ground have to rise to crack the mains?. Keep in mind we have been having huge sink holes in areas all over the world.

I read up yesterday about the 1811 EQ in New Madrid fault line area. Many eye witness reports of the ground at one point getting huge cracks, then water just shooting up out of the ground.

Could the water underground be cut off from flowing then pool saturating the ground and the end result a possible sink hole?.

Had a drought for over 9 years in North Dakota, was horrible for the economy and not much news on it. Did not notice water main breaks on the rise or real deep cracks.

Interesting. I'm sure if this was happening the end result would be ground buckling and of course sinkholes and pipe breaks.

The Midwest is home to one helluvan underground river system.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogallala_Aquifer

Post: #128

Giant Sinkhole Shocks Neighborhood in Guatemala City
June 1, 2010
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/0...index.html

Zeta Explanation 6/5/2010: We have warned that during the hour of the pole shift, that those living on Caribbean islands and in Central America are at severe risk. Between the great N American Plate and the great S American Plate lie smaller plates that will be ground up or pushed down. Guatemala lies on the border between the N American Plate and the Caribbean Plate, and thus when either of them move, there is shifting of the ground there. A very similar sinkhole occurred in 2007 in Guatemala, and matters will get worse. The Caribbean Plate is under great pressure to sink as the S American Plate intends to roll its top part toward the west. The N American Plate is under great pressure to adjust, shoving Mexico suddenly to the west when the New Madrid shifts and adjusts. Any and all of this is devastating for Guatemala.

China Sinkholes
Sinkholes, sinkholes, sinkholes in China lately, and they are horrific - large, deep, and sudden. Only Guatemala has sinkholes that equal these in depth, but China has so many more, so very many more. This has all occurred only in the past few years, and the latest rash of sinkholes is so dramatic it has hit international news.

Sudden Sinkhole Outbreak Raises Fears in China
June 7, 2010
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/36969/

June 11, 2010
http://shanghaiist.com/2010/06/09/sinkho...=2#gallery
Beginning 2010 April 27, several sinkholes appeared one after another in Yinbin City of Sichuan province, with the number of sinkholes numbering over a dozen. Sinkholes are formed by the chemical dissolution of carbonated rocks and are usually naturally occurring with a few instances of a sinkhole being formed by the collapse of a mine. What's curious though is that most of these sinkholes have occurred in the last year or so.



June 11, 2010
http://china.globaltimes.cn/society/2010-06/541275.html
There was perhaps a slightly comical element to the sinkhole which opened in home in Ningxiang County, Hunan Province on Tuesday, as it involved the family's toilet. Last month, the paddy field belonging to Yang's family also collapsed. This caused two telegraph poles to suddenly disappear, and cut off electricity for several days. In recent years, there have been regular land collapses in Nanxiang County, most notably when the playground at the Fuquan Elementary School collapsed leaving a sinkhole with a width of 80 meters.



What is causing this rash of sinkholes across southern China? Notice the Provinces involved, and their location - Sichuan Province, where the pressure from the subducting Indo-Australian Plate is greatest, and Jiangxi and Hunan and Guangxi provinces strung out in a region affected by breaking rock where the tongue of the Eurasian Plate housing Indonesia is breaking off. The Sichuan basin sits atop the Himalayas, in an area where the Himalayas are pushing east. A major fault line, the Xianshuihe fault, runs through the area. Satellite views show the rumpled mountains of the Himalayas in relation to the location of the recent Sichuan sinkholes. In 2007 in Guangxi Province 100 sinkholes suddenly appeared. But these sinkholes have only started to appear in these numbers since Planet X began jerking the Earth around in a daily wobble. Per the Zetas, there is not only a relationship, there is a cause and effect, absolutely.
To the South and West lies the curve of the Indio/Australian plate, which is being driven under the Himalayas, to the East lies the Philippine plate, which will increasingly lose out during the adjustments the plates make prior to the pole shift, losing ground and eventually disappearing as a discernable plate. The tongue of the great Eurasian plate that holds Guangxi Province also holds much of Indonesia, which will also suffer during the pole shift, crumbling. This tongue is not stable, and much fracturing of rock will occur during the turmoil in the area. This fracturing of rock has already begun!


And note the line these incidents draw across the US, from the San Francisco Bay area east through Utah, Kansas, Tennessee, and over to South Carolina! Almost on the same latitude. Clearly, during these few days in July, the bow tightened.



We stated that as a result of the 7 of 10 scenarios that the top of S America would find itself 250 miles further to the west, though not all of this would be due to movement of S America and the Caribbean and Central America. We have described the Pacific Plate as being composed of four plates, not one. They are folding over one another, and thus the Pacific compresses. What happens to Mexico during this process? When the Mariana and Philippine plates tilt and fold this affects Mexico, which is directly to the east. This portion of the N American continent moves in concert with the S American roll, putting the N American continent under an excruciating bow stress prior to its anticipated New Madrid adjustment. This will be felt primarily in the US southwest and east through Texas, as well as Mexico.

ZT


Indeed, tearing of the St. Lawrence Seaway will occur during the New Madrid adjustment. Because the lurch of Mexico to the west actually intensifies the bowing of the N American continent, the Seaway tears open. This is actually various adjustments at weak points along the Seaway rather than the tearing apart into a larger inland bay that occurs during the pole shift itself. Niagara Falls will remain, but some of the inland locks will break. When the upper Mississippi region finds the land to its west slipping down and to the southwest, those parts north which were formerly firmly attached find they can spring northward, as the pressure from the bow had been inclining them to do. This allows the edge of the rip, at Duluth, MN, to tear further inland, with consequent rumpling in S Dakota and minor shifting of ground in all parts in between.




There is general confusion about our predicted Earth changes. This is most often envisioned as happening all at once, suddenly, without warning. Where earthquakes and stretch zone accidents do seem to happen almost without warning, their approach is never that silent. The N American continent has been getting these warnings for some time, with increasing intensity. Quake swams in the New Madrid region and west of this spot have been occurring, and are on the increase. Sinkholes and shifting roadways are occurring from Pennsylvania through Tennessee and elsewhere. The center of the bow being formed by the N American continent, the San Diego area, has an epidemic of water main breaks, and the snapping rock inland from this point has affected a mine in Utah. None of this is officially ascribed to the New Madrid adjustment that is pending, though FEMA gives evidence of their nervous preparations for the disaster they know is pending.

Will the New Madrid just suddenly rip with our predicted magnitude 9 quake? Hardly. There will be a progression of quakes in the magnitude 4-5 range all along the New Madrid fault line, which runs up to the Great Lakes and thence along the seaway. The bow will become more stressed, cracking rock inland from San Diego all the way to the Mississippi, and forcing adjustments north and south of this point too, from the Aleutian Islands to the tip of Mexico. Sinkholes and crevasses will proliferate throughout the US in her stretch zones, in a swath that ranges from the New England states south to the tip of Florida and all points west. This is a large bow. Then quakes will increase to the point of being considered magnitude 6-7 along the long New Madrid fault line and its attendant splinters. The New Madrid adjustment will thus not sneak up on you, but will be well announced.

ZT

Where sinkholes are routinely blamed on recent heavy rains, causing a washout, there is more afoot. Run a line from San Diego, the center of the bow formed by the N American continent lately, and you will arrive at Tennessee. The Utah mine disaster just east of the Salt Flats was another example of that same bow stress, as it was also on that line. If a bow is pulled hard enough, it will break, but the break will be along weak points in the wood. The weak point in the N American continent is the New Madrid fault line and associated fault lines, which will slip, and slipslide sideways as we have repeatedly explained, with land to the west of the Mississippi moving SW and land to the east of the Mississippi moving NE. What does bow stress do to rock and ground in its path? Take a branch and bend it to the point where parts of the branch start snapping. The compression in the center causes branches to snap outward, relieving that pressure. Rock layers are no different. When compressed they will shatter away from the compression point. Ground nearby gets pushed around, as it is not as solid as rock, and in these matters the hand of Mother Nature does not come round and smooth and distribute the ground. Pockets or voids remain.

ZT

Post: #129

Don Ricardo De La O  Wrote:

A lot of this stuff was installed 40-100 years ago Most cities have been using Maintenance funds to f*ck off with. Here where I live water mains are leaking under the streets. In the winter it freezes and the streets buckle from the pressure of the ice beneath. The city has no money to repair it all.... this is happening all over the USA.

A very astute observation, another similar example being how cities love to throw a nickel onto the gas tax "to fix the roads" which are, indeed, messed up. Then when they get the money they spend it on hippie-ass pollution related shit. Next year, what do you hear? "We need to raise the gas tax/traffic ticket prices/whatever TO FIX THE ROADS" why? THE ROADS ARE STILL MESSED UP FROM THE LAST TIME THEY NEEDED TO INCREASE TAXES TO FIX THE ROADS. If Barack actually showed up and fixed all those roads he built, there would be no justification for wringing every possible penny out of the citizens.

Water is probably the same way. "Hey homeowner, you like that water coming into your house right? Well, if you want that to continue, you're going to have to pay more for it or else we won't be able to repair the infrastructure, then no one would have any water. You wouldn't want that right?" Then they spend the money researching runoff from farms, etc.

Regarding the post above this one, I've seen a couple of small sinkholes around where I live too, never seen any before this year.

Post: #130

Flat  Wrote:

My local paper put out this article today:

http://www.omaha.com/article/20120802/NE...29940/1707

Apparently water mains are busting all over?

Here's a graph from the site:

link to image: http://imgupld.lunaticoutpost.com/graphi...1AEADE.jpg



So I looked around a little bit. Pretty amazing whats going on in and around the Midwest.

"Workers with the Western Virginia Water Authority responded Wednesday to the intersection of Elm Avenue and Franklin Road in Roanoke for a break in the 12-inch waterline near the downtown fire department, authorities said."

"The city averages 40 to 50 waterline breaks per month. Workers responded to 68 breaks in May and 28 in June."
http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/312269

In Philly they're below average yet, but yet "IS THERE something in the water? City workers were mopping up Wednesday after the city's third water-main break in 10 days."
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/201208...Tioga.html

In Jersey:

"MUA Chairman Victor D'Ambrosio said the 6-foot water line entering into the Haledon municipal building cracked open on the top approximately 6 1/2 feet on July 21 around 10 a.m. resulting in a loss of water pressure.

D'Ambrosio said it was more common for cracks to occur on the bottom or side of the water line."
http://www.northjersey.com/community/164...l?page=all

Also in New Jersey...

"Officials say a 48-inch water main broke, shooting a geyser of water up from the street and creating a 15-foot long, 14-foot deep hole on Portland Avenue near Watchung View Place, not far from downtown Scotch Plains."
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/08..._coun.html



In New Brighton:

"Jim Riggio, the authority's general manager, said the break, at 10th Street and Fourth Avenue, was reported around 6 a.m. Riggio said he didn't know the cause of the break, but said it was a large one; workers spent the morning replacing a full joint of pipe, about 20 feet long."
http://www.timesonline.com/news/local_ne...6e291.html

Ohio:

"STRONGSVILLE, Ohio — Water main breaks in two different cities have left some residents and businesses without service."
http://fox8.com/2012/08/02/traffic-water...maple-hts/

Denver:

"Denver Water responded to a 12-inch water main break that will close a major route out of Denver until Thursday afternoon."
http://kdvr.com/2012/08/02/water-main-br...afternoon/




A St. Louis paper posted this article about the causes:

"Hot and dry conditions are being blamed for three water main breaks overnight across St. Louis and other recent breaks in the area."
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro...2f8ad.html


This drought may be way more fun than we thought!

Save me Niiiiibiiiruuuu~~!

Dropping groundwater levels will cause sections of pipe filled with water ta sag and break drought doin its thang is all.

Post: #131

Iz all dey water mains popped yet suckers?