soul Wrote: (08-21-2010 01:56 AM)
Anonymous Coward Wrote: (08-21-2010 01:53 AM)
Sweet Wrote: (08-21-2010 01:47 AM)
So,you think it's a trap? I think not,people get themselves banned. Everything is not a setup.
Then why did I get banned?
And this from AE-just in. Read it carefully. OUCH.
I'm not sure how the formatting will hold up here at this site, but the following is a post I saw in the "begging for money" thread, only to have it disappear less than 3 minutes later when I went back to the thread - coulda been less time...
Just for once, I'd like to see someone around here man-up, and take responsibility for their words or actions. Just the truth - no bullshit explanations about so-and-so is after GLP, we lost our Google account and must seek more paying customers, etc.
For God's sake, you said you paid attorneys in three cities and two continents $20,000, all to hear about the "magical" safe-harbor defense. WTF! You're kidding me - what internet savvy individual HASN'T heard about safe-harbor protections?
Let's get back on topic though - about 1.5 years ago, Trinity said he was selling GLP for $250,000. The exact quote was:
[quote:^TrInItY^]That's enough for me people..
I've done my tour of duty as custodian..
Who wants the job now?
The price is $250,000.00
If this site isn't sold by Jan 20th at noon I'm taking it offline...
If you are interested you can email me at trinity@don't sue me bro!
or PM me here if you're a paid member
11/28/2008 1:16 AM
Then someone asked:
[quote:Reese2076]Are you serious. You will take it offline if it isn't sold. Are the hosting fees to much or something?[/quote]
And Trinity responded:
[quote:^TrInItY^]no the paid members cover the hosting
it's just time...
I've got other things to do....
11/28/2008 1:20 AM[/quote]
Now, one might say, "I don't believe you; you just made that up."
Well, ordinarily I could direct you to the GLP link of the thread... but guess what? That link (perhaps not so) mysteriously now says, "Sorry, that message is no longer in the database." WTF? When did this happen?
Well, I can tell you.
Here is the link that no longer exists:
http://www.don't sue me bro!/forum1/message674538/pg1
However, that page is cached at Google. Also note the timestamp of when Google took a snapshot: June 11, 2010. So we know for sure, the thread existed here at GLP just two months ago. But wait! There's more! Another search found that, as recently as August 5, 2010, the thread disappeared. Hmmm... it would appear someone didn't want us to see something - he was covering his tracks - or trying to - sometime in the very recent past - between June 11, 2010 and August 5, 2010.
So here are the various links:
Google cache of thread:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/se...:www.don't sue me bro!/forum1/ message674538/pg1+http://www.don't sue me bro!/forum1/message674538/pg1&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=u s
Screenshot of initial post: (with timestamp of June 11, 2010 meaning it was still in database)
Screenshot of Trinity saying that "paid members cover the hosting."
Lastly, the screenshot from searching, shows thread was deleted at least as far back as August 05, 2010:
So really it boils down to this for me:
I find GLP an interesting place to visit, and occasionally find interesting posts - but I'm sure as hell am not going to pay for the "privilege" of having an avatar, when virtually every other forum in the world allows them for free... BTW, having GLP members host their avatar offsite (e.g. tinypic) would incur ZERO costs to GLP; or allow inline images, again, there are ZERO costs to GLP for allowing this, except, of course, for the 15-20 bytes for the link itself.
Of course, if GLP were really concerned about bandwidth costs, they wouldn't allow the "World's Record Moron Thread" to exist, as it exists, only to take up bandwidth.
So Jason, all I, and I suppose other non-sheeple, ask, is that you be consistent, and at least tell the truth. For example:
What's there to hide if you're telling the truth? Tell us how many paid members exist (perhaps average over a year), or gross receipts from paid membership for a year. Then show us paid receipts for hosting service costs for the three servers that keep GLP running. Of course, you would redact personal information.
Stop being so secretive about GLP and it's roots once you took over. I think it would go a LONG WAY towards gaining real respectability (vs the sheeple variety) by doing a couple of things:
1) Get rid of the silly word-ban list. It's just childish.
2) If you did some shit when you were younger (stuff that is floating around the web about you like a giant BP oil spill) which may have been, shall we say, less than nice as it pertains to software. Man-up, and say maybe, "Yup, it's true - I did some shit in my youth I'm not proud of. I'll set the record straight. Here's what I did, and here's what I didn't do." Maybe you did none of the things all these internet posts claim you did. Then say so, and, of course, show your sincerity by getting rid of the banned word-list. Keeping the list, and how it manifests doubt about you and your background, only helps to conjur images of a bad X-Files episode.
Dude - if you did something like that, you'd even gain my respect - not that you or anyone wants or needs it. But you would gain respect from thousands if not tens-of-thousands of otherwise Jason-haters. You know the old political adage - if caught up in a scandal, come out with the truth immediately and don't try and cover it up. People are much more forgiving when simply told the truth.
So in conclusion, I'd ask you to consider some of my musings - I think YOU, GLP, and GLP visitors alike, would all stand to benefit.
Thanks for hearing me out.
One last thought - I think the PayPal donation aspect is fine, but hopefully people know that, in fact, ALL of your information can be seen by the receiver of the donation - REAL NAME, REAL FULL MAILING ADDRESS, and REAL EMAIL ADDRESS. Just thought I'd note that for full disclosure reasons.
Long live GLP - and I mean that - albeit in a somewhat different form.
Anyone want to upgrade me??? (rolling eyes) Hahahahahahaha!
For he hath fallen from his exaltation,
and received his portion.' (D&C 132:39).