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**Shilly McShillington**

In a word: Authority

Get back in line citizen or you be promptly and indefinitely detained without charge or trial!

**Funk Junkie**

Freedom of speech. It lets you say anything.

Including telling ppl how to live life.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 96381 05-14-2012 03:02 PM

Society.

**JF Priest** · **JF Priest** Subscriber User ID: 47416 05-14-2012 03:07 PM **Posts: 23,844**

Old Whatshisname Wrote:

Nobody gives them the "right", OPie, but you -- by not exercising your own rights -- give them the power.

And, of course, it's not just you; it's all of us.

**fnord** lop guest User ID: 96211 05-14-2012 03:11 PM

Everyone has the right to tell you how to live your life.

You have the right to tell everyone else to mind their own business.

You also have to deal with the consequences of your own actions.

Do what you will, and expect the same from others.

**Leroy Jenkins!**

lucifer Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
Because I'm bigger and stronger than you, that's why.

then the castles crumbled and you saw just how small and frail you are

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gSb2A4mXtg

**raisinbread**

I will not comply. If I'm not hurting anyone = no crime and NOONE has any right to tell me any different. Total freedom the way I see fit. Not anarchy just personal freedom. I agree wholeheartedly OP !!! My land, my life but out!

**Shilly McShillington**

raisinbread Wrote:

I will not comply. If I'm not hurting anyone = no crime and NOONE has any right to tell me any different. Total freedom the way I see fit. Not anarchy just personal freedom. I agree wholeheartedly OP !!! My land, my life but out!

The agencies, institutions, and people placed in authority over you would disagree. VEHEMENTLY!

**Ka$h Killa** lop guest User ID: 96215 05-14-2012 03:19 PM

Old Whatshisname Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
Because people would rather live in a false utopian society where they assume TPTB are there to nurture and look after us. In reality a utopian society would be where anarchy rules ahead of democracy and capital gain is eradication in favor of the needs of the people.

How would you "eradiction" capital gain in an anarchic society? Isn't that a bit of an oxymoron?

Because in a true anarchy, business wouldnt be allowed to operate because money wouldn't exist. Neither would business. Not because something forces business not to exist, but because without a gubmint enforcing the concept of the economy, there just wouldn't be an economy

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 36006 05-14-2012 03:24 PM

Its called civilization.

There are some tradeoffs.

Now come up with a list of benifits that would not otherwise exist without it.

I'll help get you started.

1. Modern Medicine.
2. Cars.
3. The Internet
4. Computers.
5. Some assurance that those who commit (direct)crimes against you will be caught and dealt with.

You keep going.

Think I'm wrong?
Tell me what fantastic inventions came out of countries without rules like these. Tell me about how much safer 3rd world shitholes are than where you are right now is.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 96389 05-14-2012 03:26 PM

LoP Guest Wrote:

Come on the mr 1 star. Tell me.

What gives people the right to tell me how i must live my life if what I do affects no one else!!!

Come on shithead.

It is the right of us religious people to guide you thru life so you dont make major mistakes that annoy God.

**DanfromtheHills**

lucifer Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
Because I'm bigger and stronger than you, that's why.

then the castles crumbled and you saw just how small and frail you are

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW5zPy73gWk

**DanfromtheHills**

LoP Guest Wrote:

Its called civilization.

There are some tradeoffs.

Now come up with a list of benifits that would not otherwise exist without it.

I'll help get you started.

1. Modern Medicine.
2. Cars.
3. The Internet
4. Computers.
5. Some assurance that those who commit (direct)crimes against you will be caught and dealt with.

You keep going.

Think I'm wrong?
Tell me what fantastic inventions came out of countries without rules like these. Tell me about how much safer 3rd world shitholes are than where you are right now is.

How does restricting personal freedoms, as the OP sated, help the process of a civilization's technological advancement, which you deem the measure of a civilization's worth?

**raisinbread**

Shilly McShillington Wrote:

raisinbread Wrote:
I will not comply. If I'm not hurting anyone = no crime and NOONE has any right to tell me any different. Total freedom the way I see fit. Not anarchy just personal freedom. I agree wholeheartedly OP !!! My land, my life but out!

The agencies, institutions, and people placed in authority over you would disagree. VEHEMENTLY!

I glad they do. The older I get all I see is controls over me. I will not be shackled I will not go away and I will not be silenced. Others might see things differently ,I could just no care less. I do what I want when I want damn the consequences. I don't hurt anyone. Too many laws have made everything illegal. Enough is enough. I am a free man.

They do disagree with me and have been hog tied and silenced me in kangaroo court. I will not stop. Ever! They hate me and I'm happy they do because the feeling is mutual.

**great-grandfather**

LoP Guest Wrote:

What gives people the right to tell me I cannot grow a marijuana plant for myself?
What gives people the right to tell me I cannot brew my own moonshine?
What gives people the right to tell me I cannot collect and drink raw milk?
What gives people the right to tell me I cannot take my own life if I am terminally ill?
What gives people the right to tell me I must pay council tax to fund criminal wars?
What gives people the right to tell me I must have my wages paid into a bank?
What gives people the right to tell me I cannot defend myself in my own house?
What gives people the right to tell me I cannot photograph in London?
What gives people the right to tell me I have to give all my personal details to Lockheed Martin?
What gives people the right to tell me I have no rght to privacy anymore?
What gives people the right to tell me I cannot grow my own food?

There is no more freedom, I say f*ck em!!!!

Just ranting, sorry guys.

......not a right, .......but.......love of power