Post: #61

Believe is such a bad word, I would choose consider. I was introduced to them as a result of the fact that anything to do with discussion of Ancient Mysteries or Paranormal and Psychic phenomenon always ended up in the same forum as conspiracy theories. I am sure there was a purposeful reasoning for this. That's the conspiracy theories talking

Post: #62

For me it was when I noticed all those black government helicopters following me on the highway. They thought they were clever by painting them orange and white with "NEWS 12 Traffic" on the side, but I always knew better.

Post: #63

For myself, I entertain a lot of stuff - I am aware of basically every fringe theory out there - a lot, i find interesting but that's about it. I mean, a good ol' fashion Project Camelot episode with Dan Burisch - and I am obsessed with UFO stuff, but once you start talking about stargates and this and that..hrmm...for me, kinda leaving the realm of reality.

One thing I can't get behind is all the whoo--raaa over the NWO stuff, yeah - the occult symbolism is there, that stuff is very cool - masons, illumiati...then toss in shape shifting reptiles and bam...moving on.

Ive been interested in the UFO stuff since I was a child, I gobbled up Von Daineken's stuff when i was around 13 or 14, and kept on keeping on in that field. That got me obsessed on ancient civilizations, which led me to graham hancock when i was around 16 or so, from there I devoured anything along those lines. And from that point I become obsessed with trying to understand why all these great civilizations were wiped out, and forgotten about with the exception of 'Mythology' and symbolism. I don't consider that stuff conspiracy.

Fast forward to around 2002, I came upon the Planet X model and thought it had more validity to it then Precession of the equonixes or Isostacy - because it could be related to cultural text, lore, oral traditons and the like...Soon after, I started taking anthropology in university and Science and Technology studies (and interdisciplnary approach to the study of science and technology). I became obsessed with Theory, with epistomelogoy - with understanding how groups of people can think a way and completely disregard other streams of thought - i became obsessed with the philosophy and history science, of paradigm research..of understanding the unconcious patterning of human behavior...

I thought to myself..I believe that civilizations move in great cycles, I believe that the world was populated in the past, and possibly many times - and they had technologies that met their conceptual understandings of the world.
I thought, how can anyone deny the vast amounts of corelations between cultural mythology and text - coming from a perspective, that independant inventionist was not soley correct like so many sociobiologists and the like assume - yes we are all hard wired in the same way, we eat, we shit and laugh about it, yeah maybe the pyramid structures just make sense to our brains because of the shape - but its the MEANING attached to things that is culturally derived, and conceptual meaning is transmitted through the written and spoken word, art, symbols and the like...

I thought, If I can see the logic in all of these things, and how they connect - and I know I am a pretty sane person (as sane as the next)
Then why do douchebags like Bill Nye the Science guy have such difficulties? How can their rebuttal be "Where's the civilization that existed between the so called older Egypt and the old kingdom! (on Schocks dating of the sphinx).

I ask, how can a person of such intelligence not see the inherent contradiction in a statement! You Egyptologist who follows a strict order of Uniformity; Where's the evidence in that few million year mark for homo sapiens? You can't pick and choose!

So - What was I saying?

Oh yeah, conspiracy is such a dirty word. People throw it around all the time, on subjects that have nothing to do with 'conspiracy'. Mostly, those are people who are ignorant on the subject to begin with. How can you have an opinion how delicious or disgusting a lobster is if you've never had it.

At any rate, Ces't La Vie!

Post: #64

Magnus74  Wrote:

For me it was when I noticed all those black government helicopters following me on the highway. They thought they were clever by painting them orange and white with "NEWS 12 Traffic" on the side, but I always knew better.

Post: #65

HardTruth  Wrote:

Electoral votes!!
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Roswell in 1999. Since then I've learned there are no visiting aliens. These creatures are terrestrial.

Also converted from atheism to christianity in 2003 which has helped with understanding the nature of the whole illuminati (TPTB) deal and how this plays on a larger time scale than what I have available to research.

Post: #66

LoP Guest  Wrote:

HardTruth  Wrote:

Electoral votes!!
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Roswell in 1999. Since then I've learned there are no visiting aliens. These creatures are terrestrial.

Also converted from atheism to christianity in 2003 which has helped with understanding the nature of the whole illuminati (TPTB) deal and how this plays on a larger time scale than what I have available to research.

How has converting to a religion helped you? Did you not have your mind before hand? I don't get that.

Post: #67

http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-A-splinter-in-my-mind

Post: #68

7th grade ~ 9th grade, a few good teachers. The classes were (vietnam war) History and Current Events.

9/11, our first responders didn't respond due to training exercises of the exact scenario occuring. Same thing happened in the UK with the train bombing. So blatantly obvious that one wonders how the hell the people of our nations tolerate it..

Post: #69

Doctor Booshka  Wrote:

Has it been a life long journey for you or is it something you got into after 9-11? I noticed a lot of people began to take this stuff more seriously after 9-11. And the biggest question is how has it affected your life? For the good or for the worse? What was the first conspiracy you looked into?

I once believed in a few [older] conspiracies for a while. But believing in what I discovered made me feel depressed and helpless. So I stopped believing in them - and I am well aware of my mind using defense mechanisms to block out things that are too hard to accept. Oddly enough, most of the doom you read on forums never comes to pass anyway, so its just a big waste of energy and time to sit around waiting for SHTF. Its almost like we are living life in slow motion, always moving towards the next big conspiracy and yet for most of us, life goes on like normal. What I don't want is for my life to pass by, become old and have wasted most of it worrying about some doomy shit I have no control over. So I no longer worry that much, I view this stuff as entertainment... just like TV. I just take each day as it comes.

That was a few years ago. My life has change a lot since I learned what I have. I guess the most important thing I've learned is to jut have faith that there is a force greater than ourselves calling the shots and all we really have to do is live life as best we can and do good onto others. If anything positive came out of the experience, its that I live much more passionately and in the moment. I take nothing for granted, and I look forward to each day, not the 'future'... right now is where its at.

I have enough to worry about with my health these days and conspiracies don't help with positive thinking. I think you really have to have a strong filter when you come to forums like these, there is a lot of good and interesting information, but then there are also a lot of fear mongers. I also think a lot of truly lonely people find their way to the world of conspiracies because they have no one to go out and live life with, no one to do fun things with, so naturally, people want everyone else to feel down about the world. Life has been hard on people all through the ages, its what you make of it. Happiness is a choice.

Fear = Control

If anything, I've regressed back to my youthful state of 'no fear'... or shall we say 'no control'... I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do... and have a good time.

Post: #70

nosmos  Wrote:

One thing I can't get behind is all the whoo--raaa over the NWO stuff, yeah - the occult symbolism is there, that stuff is very cool - masons, illumiati...then toss in shape shifting reptiles and bam...moving on.

^^this^^

NWO is just silly.

Post: #71

The year was 1994. Time stopped. People changed.