LoP Guest  Wrote:

WTF this is just another religion trolling thread. This place used to be better than this before the likes of this OP showed up.

So not having the same opinion or belief as you is now trolling?

Hamsterfist  Wrote:

So the axiom, you can never prove a negative.

Neither a negative claim or a positive claim is ever absolutely certain. For instance someone who believes that they have seen santa may have been hallucinating.

Santa Claus.

You can teach your kids to either believe in him or not, but somewhere down the road they stop believing and grow up.

How is Santa different from God?

The Killing Joke  Wrote:

Santa Claus.

You can teach your kids to either believe in him or not, but somewhere down the road they stop believing and grow up.

How is Santa different from God?

The outfit?

The funny thing about this God vs Science debate is how atheists, or whatever name they go by now, scoff at the concept of "faith in the unproven"... all the while using that exact faith themselves.

The argument is always "prove God exists without referring to a 'holy book' which is already biased toward the existence of God."

Well...I challenge someone to prove that black holes exist WITHOUT referring to textbooks written by a scientist that is already biased toward their existence. What are you gonna do...show me a computer model made by one of those same scientists?

Prove the universe began by a random 'big bang' of nothingness without referring to an uber-complex equation that nobody here has any hopes of ever checking for themselves...I CHALLENGE you.

Atheists (or whatever) have just as much faith as the religious. Once you move beyond the realm of tangible science (gravity, thermodynamics etc) you're using just as much faith as someone that believes a greater power created everything "that is". To deny that is hypocritical and disingenuous.

One puts faith in a preacher's word and a holy book, the other puts faith in a scientist's word and a textbook because at the end of the day, NOT A SINGLE ONE OF YOU has directly witnessed either black holes nor evidence of the big bang for yourself...we're all just taking someone's word for it. (am I saying black holes don't exist? No. I'm making a point)

Also... how is it that the concept of "God" is mocked as a "stupid fairy tale"... but an entire universe magically popping into existence from absolutely nothing and ordering itself in such a perfect fashion that life can take hold isn't?... and I do mean 'magically' quite literally. If I stood on a street corner and somehow made a coin appear out of thin air, you'd call it magic, not science.

Next you guys will be telling me that scientists never lie and are never wrong which will result in a whole new set of LOLs

The funny thing about this God vs Science debate is how atheists, or whatever name they go by now, scoff at the concept of "faith in the unproven"... all the while using that exact faith themselves.

The argument is always "prove God exists without referring to a 'holy book' which is already biased toward the existence of God."

Well...I challenge someone to prove that black holes exist WITHOUT referring to textbooks written by a scientist that is already biased toward their existence. What are you gonna do...show me a computer model made by one of those same scientists?

Prove the universe began by a random 'big bang' of nothingness without referring to an uber-complex equation that nobody here has any hopes of ever checking for themselves...I CHALLENGE you.

Atheists (or whatever) have just as much faith as the religious. Once you move beyond the realm of tangible science (gravity, thermodynamics etc) you're using just as much faith as someone that believes a greater power created everything "that is". To deny that is hypocritical and disingenuous.

One puts faith in a preacher's word and a holy book, the other puts faith in a scientist's word and a textbook because at the end of the day, NOT A SINGLE ONE OF YOU has directly witnessed either black holes nor evidence of the big bang for yourself...we're all just taking someone's word for it. (am I saying black holes don't exist? No. I'm making a point)

Also... how is it that the concept of "God" is mocked as a "stupid fairy tale"... but an entire universe magically popping into existence from absolutely nothing and ordering itself in such a perfect fashion that life can take hold isn't?... and I do mean 'magically' quite literally. If I stood on a street corner and somehow made a coin appear out of thin air, you'd call it magic, not science.

Next you guys will be telling me that scientists never lie and are never wrong which will result in a whole new set of LOLs

Dr. Professor  Wrote:

The funny thing about this God vs Science debate is how atheists, or whatever name they go by now, scoff at the concept of "faith in the unproven"... all the while using that exact faith themselves.

The argument is always "prove God exists without referring to a 'holy book' which is already biased toward the existence of God."

Well...I challenge someone to prove that black holes exist WITHOUT referring to textbooks written by a scientist that is already biased toward their existence. What are you gonna do...show me a computer model made by one of those same scientists?

Prove the universe began by a random 'big bang' of nothingness without referring to an uber-complex equation that nobody here has any hopes of ever checking for themselves...I CHALLENGE you.

Atheists (or whatever) have just as much faith as the religious. Once you move beyond the realm of tangible science (gravity, thermodynamics etc) you're using just as much faith as someone that believes a greater power created everything "that is". To deny that is hypocritical and disingenuous.

One puts faith in a preacher's word and a holy book, the other puts faith in a scientist's word and a textbook because at the end of the day, NOT A SINGLE ONE OF YOU has directly witnessed either black holes nor evidence of the big bang for yourself...we're all just taking someone's word for it. (am I saying black holes don't exist? No. I'm making a point)

Also... how is it that the concept of "God" is mocked as a "stupid fairy tale"... but an entire universe magically popping into existence from absolutely nothing and ordering itself in such a perfect fashion that life can take hold isn't?... and I do mean 'magically' quite literally. If I stood on a street corner and somehow made a coin appear out of thin air, you'd call it magic, not science.

Next you guys will be telling me that scientists never lie and are never wrong which will result in a whole new set of LOLs

and we all fell out of a monkeys ass.

Dr. Professor  Wrote:

The funny thing about this God vs Science debate is how atheists, or whatever name they go by now, scoff at the concept of "faith in the unproven"... all the while using that exact faith themselves.

The argument is always "prove God exists without referring to a 'holy book' which is already biased toward the existence of God."

Well...I challenge someone to prove that black holes exist WITHOUT referring to textbooks written by a scientist that is already biased toward their existence. What are you gonna do...show me a computer model made by one of those same scientists?

Prove the universe began by a random 'big bang' of nothingness without referring to an uber-complex equation that nobody here has any hopes of ever checking for themselves...I CHALLENGE you.

Atheists (or whatever) have just as much faith as the religious. Once you move beyond the realm of tangible science (gravity, thermodynamics etc) you're using just as much faith as someone that believes a greater power created everything "that is". To deny that is hypocritical and disingenuous.

One puts faith in a preacher's word and a holy book, the other puts faith in a scientist's word and a textbook because at the end of the day, NOT A SINGLE ONE OF YOU has directly witnessed either black holes nor evidence of the big bang for yourself...we're all just taking someone's word for it. (am I saying black holes don't exist? No. I'm making a point)

Also... how is it that the concept of "God" is mocked as a "stupid fairy tale"... but an entire universe magically popping into existence from absolutely nothing and ordering itself in such a perfect fashion that life can take hold isn't?... and I do mean 'magically' quite literally. If I stood on a street corner and somehow made a coin appear out of thin air, you'd call it magic, not science.

Next you guys will be telling me that scientists never lie and are never wrong which will result in a whole new set of LOLs

I'll take the word of someone who puts time and energy into their craft and at least attempts to explain this universe over someone telling me I'm going to hell for sinning against an invisible sky man who loves(?) me.

Science moves forward, religion is still a tangled web of hate.

The Killing Joke  Wrote:

Dr. Professor  Wrote:

The funny thing about this God vs Science debate is how atheists, or whatever name they go by now, scoff at the concept of "faith in the unproven"... all the while using that exact faith themselves.

The argument is always "prove God exists without referring to a 'holy book' which is already biased toward the existence of God."

Well...I challenge someone to prove that black holes exist WITHOUT referring to textbooks written by a scientist that is already biased toward their existence. What are you gonna do...show me a computer model made by one of those same scientists?

Prove the universe began by a random 'big bang' of nothingness without referring to an uber-complex equation that nobody here has any hopes of ever checking for themselves...I CHALLENGE you.

Atheists (or whatever) have just as much faith as the religious. Once you move beyond the realm of tangible science (gravity, thermodynamics etc) you're using just as much faith as someone that believes a greater power created everything "that is". To deny that is hypocritical and disingenuous.

One puts faith in a preacher's word and a holy book, the other puts faith in a scientist's word and a textbook because at the end of the day, NOT A SINGLE ONE OF YOU has directly witnessed either black holes nor evidence of the big bang for yourself...we're all just taking someone's word for it. (am I saying black holes don't exist? No. I'm making a point)

Also... how is it that the concept of "God" is mocked as a "stupid fairy tale"... but an entire universe magically popping into existence from absolutely nothing and ordering itself in such a perfect fashion that life can take hold isn't?... and I do mean 'magically' quite literally. If I stood on a street corner and somehow made a coin appear out of thin air, you'd call it magic, not science.

Next you guys will be telling me that scientists never lie and are never wrong which will result in a whole new set of LOLs

I'll take the word of someone who puts time and energy into their craft and at least attempts to explain this universe over someone telling me I'm going to hell for sinning against an invisible sky man who loves(?) me.

Science moves forward, religion is still a tangled web of hate.

Is it? Have you read a single holy book for yourself to make a decision or are you just spouting what you've heard everyone else say?.. Because basing an opinion of a religion on someone that is obviously neglecting the tenets of whatever religion they're following is ignorant.

"Christians" that condemn others to hell for whatever transgressions are obviously not true Christians since the Bible plainly states not to judge in more than one place using more than one way to say it. So to hoist them up as being mascots of Christianity is also disingenuous.

Should I assume that since one cop was caught f*cking a woman on a car on camera, that he is the standard of law enforcement, all cops f*ck women on their car and we should abolish all of law enforcement?

Also, you've stated that you've chosen your side but you've sidestepped EVERYTHING I said completely. You may as well have said "You're absolutely right but I don't care and will now stick my fingers in my ears."

Dr. Professor  Wrote:

The Killing Joke  Wrote:

I'll take the word of someone who puts time and energy into their craft and at least attempts to explain this universe over someone telling me I'm going to hell for sinning against an invisible sky man who loves(?) me.

Science moves forward, religion is still a tangled web of hate.

Is it? Have you read a single holy book for yourself to make a decision or are you just spouting what you've heard everyone else say?.. Because basing an opinion of a religion on someone that is obviously neglecting the tenets of whatever religion they're following is ignorant.

"Christians" that condemn others to hell for whatever transgressions are obviously not true Christians since the Bible plainly states not to judge in more than one place using more than one way to say it. So to hoist them up as being mascots of Christianity is also disingenuous.

Should I assume that since one cop was caught f*cking a woman on a car on camera, that he is the standard of law enforcement, all cops f*ck women on their car and we should abolish all of law enforcement?

Also, you've stated that you've chosen your side but you've sidestepped EVERYTHING I said completely. You may as well have said "You're absolutely right but I don't care and will now stick my fingers in my ears."

some cops f*ck other dudes in their patrol car and yes we should abolish all police officers. . im on your side by the way.

you can't tell these Godless people anything. i spent all day on a 43 page thread i started at 8:40 this morning and i didn't get anywhere.