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When Work is Punished: The Tragedy of America's Welfare State
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12-01-2012 01:40 PM

 



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When Work is Punished: The Tragedy of America's Welfare State
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-11-27...fare-state

A family of four with one working head of the household making minimim wage has more disposable income than the same family that earns $69,000 a year.

There are 1.65 private sector workers for every person living on government hand outs.

There are 1.25 private sector workers for every welfare recipient and government employee.
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RE: When Work is Punished: The Tragedy of America's Welfare State
OP, you didn't do your homework properly. Search function is helpful.
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12-01-2012 02:43 PM

 



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Sounds like Ayn Rand crapola to me.
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RE: When Work is Punished: The Tragedy of America's Welfare State
LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-01-2012 02:43 PM)
Sounds like Ayn Rand crapola to me.

I actually like her work until she gets on the feminist rants.

then she just sounds bitter and petty.


Like John Rambo,


I bet they would have made a cute couple.
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RE: When Work is Punished: The Tragedy of America's Welfare State
Kanigo2  Wrote: (12-01-2012 02:52 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-01-2012 02:43 PM)
Sounds like Ayn Rand crapola to me.

I actually like her work until she gets on the feminist rants.

then she just sounds bitter and petty.


Like John Rambo,


I bet they would have made a cute couple.

And thus we have another moron. Anyone who thinks her work has any credibility is a moron and just a brainwashed child of American propaganda.
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Luvapottamus
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12-01-2012 03:08 PM

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RE: When Work is Punished: The Tragedy of America's Welfare State
Weird,

I thought the $36k average income for mechanics was punishment,

and pencil-dicked day-trading criminals stealing pensions was unfair.

There is no such thing as sovereign debt. Nationalize monetary policy at the FED, reinstate Greenbacks.
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Ayn Rand's theory only works if there is a perfect world.
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RE: When Work is Punished: The Tragedy of America's Welfare State
Luvapottamus  Wrote: (12-01-2012 03:08 PM)
Weird,

I thought the $36k average income for mechanics was punishment,

and pencil-dicked day-trading criminals stealing pensions was unfair.

GDP - per capita (PPP) global:

$11,900 (2011 est.)
$11,600 (2010 est.)
$11,200 (2009 est.)
note: data are in 2011 US dollars
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RE: When Work is Punished: The Tragedy of America's Welfare State
LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-01-2012 01:40 PM)
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-11-27...fare-state

A family of four with one working head of the household making minimim wage has more disposable income than the same family that earns $69,000 a year.

There are 1.65 private sector workers for every person living on government hand outs.

There are 1.25 private sector workers for every welfare recipient and government employee.

Your stats are counting SS recipients as "welfare recipients" and "living on government handouts". I bet Medicaid and Medicare are also included
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RE: When Work is Punished: The Tragedy of America's Welfare State
LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-01-2012 04:08 PM)
Luvapottamus  Wrote: (12-01-2012 03:08 PM)
Weird,

I thought the $36k average income for mechanics was punishment,

and pencil-dicked day-trading criminals stealing pensions was unfair.

GDP - per capita (PPP) global:

$11,900 (2011 est.)
$11,600 (2010 est.)
$11,200 (2009 est.)
note: data are in 2011 US dollars

My gross production in year 2000 was $250,OOO, earned $37,500 before taxes.
It's a structural problem industry-wide(and in most skilled labor jobs).

I'd estimate the net profit for my boss around $80-120k maybe on my labor, but it's not an interpersonal problem, (It wasn't a worse deal than was offered elsewhere)

That's why I refuse to do it anymore.

Not because people are on the Dole,(I'm not-might have to be later) but it's not worth the stress, injuries, wear and tear on a person. Jamie Dimon is the Welfare queen that pisses me off, not some economically captured schmuck in section 8 up the street.

There is no such thing as sovereign debt. Nationalize monetary policy at the FED, reinstate Greenbacks.
Wall Street Sales Tax http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb5OQUElilo
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12-01-2012 04:48 PM

 



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RE: When Work is Punished: The Tragedy of America's Welfare State
Jobs are becoming a thing of the past, there's just too damn much CRAP and responsibility involved in hiring other people these days. I only have one business left with employees and that's because I'm only part owner of that one and don't have the final say, but I shut the other down last month after obama won. I think I'll do better on my own all by myself and all for myself from now on. f*ck everyone else, particularly the ungrateful job needers - you can go make your own damn jobs for yourselves from now on and demand blah blah blah for yourselves from yourselves ha ha ha ha.
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RE: When Work is Punished: The Tragedy of America's Welfare State
LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-01-2012 02:55 PM)
Kanigo2  Wrote: (12-01-2012 02:52 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-01-2012 02:43 PM)
Sounds like Ayn Rand crapola to me.

I actually like her work until she gets on the feminist rants.

then she just sounds bitter and petty.


Like John Rambo,


I bet they would have made a cute couple.

And thus we have another moron. Anyone who thinks her work has any credibility is a moron and just a brainwashed child of American propaganda.

Your rhetoric is bitter and petty .

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RE: When Work is Punished: The Tragedy of America's Welfare State
And we have another 4 years of ballooning welfare and food stamp rolls to look forward to.

Who in their right mind would vote for that? Dumbass
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RE: When Work is Punished: The Tragedy of America's Welfare State
LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-01-2012 05:36 PM)
And we have another 4 years of ballooning welfare and food stamp rolls to look forward to.

Who in their right mind would vote for that? Dumbass

Those would rather have cake over death

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZVjKlBCvhg
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RE: When Work is Punished: The Tragedy of America's Welfare State
Search.
We already had a test on this. Wensday, I think
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