Kash... I have some serious issues with the type of things you post.

And I am wondering just one thing?

You could go RIGHT NOW... And live on a commune, and live the lifestyle that you want to live.

Why do you think that you are anyone else has the right to force others to live that lifestyle?

Can I bring my guns?

LoP Guest  Wrote:

Why collective? We aint bees or ants you know.

Why cant I live in a moneyless country and roam about, maybe settle down with and have a family and grow my own food?

Why are you stating it has to be a collective villiage?

I abstain.

Because alot of people dont want to live by themselves. And large groups of people do have an advantage of being able to grow food easier

Elizabeth  Wrote:

Jackinthebox  Wrote:

I don't see why not. As long as I still had my own personal rights. You could have a completely Constitutional yet moneyless barter society right here in America without being considered communist, or even socialist.

But see if you have followed Kash's other threads... He has this dream of collective living, where people are forced to put in, in order to receive the handouts from those that run the collectives.

Which is communist/socialist

while i don't believe in a forced society., i think it's foolish to dismiss the benefits of certain aspects of "socialism" and labeling them as communist=bad bad bad.

we need to modify our language around such things if we ever hope to evolve past our sticking points.

WhenWillitEnd  Wrote:

Can I bring my guns?

I have nothing against guns and i dont want to tell people what to do.

feverpitch  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

while i don't believe in a forced society., i think it's foolish to dismiss the benefits of certain aspects of "socialism" and labeling them as communist=bad bad bad.

we need to modify our language around such things if we ever hope to evolve past our sticking points.

That's what George Orwell called Newspeak. How timely and relevant.

what orwell described and what i am suggesting are 180 degrees apart.

Elizabeth  Wrote:

Kash... I have some serious issues with the type of things you post.

And I am wondering just one thing?

You could go RIGHT NOW... And live on a commune, and live the lifestyle that you want to live.

Why do you think that you are anyone else has the right to force others to live that lifestyle?

Most of the communes are groups of people living together in a single community... i was looking more toward a place where everybody had their own individual houses, tents or whatever, and didnt have to share everything, and that production and distribution was carried out without the use of currency

You are not going to be successful at anything other than irritating the piss out of everyone here.
Give it about 20-30 more years of living and then you might have a clue on what works and what doesn't.
It's been said before and bears repeating again...the only reason you hate money is because YOU DON'T HAVE ANY.
And you are a vandal and thief to boot!
If someone handed you a million dollar bank account you'd have so much bling and driving around looking all cool in your fancy wheels and living it up so quick and you'd shut up real quick about the evils of money and be struttin' around like all the other playas.

WhenWillitEnd  Wrote:

Can I bring my guns?

i dont want to tell people what to do.

LoP Guest  Wrote:

feverpitch  Wrote:

That's what George Orwell called Newspeak. How timely and relevant.

what orwell described and what i am suggesting are 180 degrees apart.

You do not have to explain yourself, rational people know you were not implying what the partisan derpers claim you were implying.

And you are right, individual issues should be taken on their own merit and not simply defaulted to "that is commie".

Jackinthebox  Wrote:

I don't see why not. As long as I still had my own personal rights. You could have a completely Constitutional yet moneyless barter society right here in America without being considered communist, or even socialist.

But see if you have followed Kash's other threads... He has this dream of collective living, where people are forced to put in, in order to receive the handouts from those that run the collectives.

Which is communist/socialist

The Evil AC  Wrote:

You are not going to be successful at anything other than irritating the piss out of everyone here.
Give it about 20-30 more years of living and then you might have a clue on what works and what doesn't.
It's been said before and bears repeating again...the only reason you hate money is because YOU DON'T HAVE ANY.
And you are a vandal and thief to boot!
If someone handed you a million dollar bank account you'd have so much bling and driving around looking all cool in your fancy wheels and living it up so quick and you'd shut up real quick about the evils of money and be struttin' around like all the other playas.

i think if somebody gave me a million id get alot of tents or temporary buildings and build this moneyless city i want to

Ka$hKilla  Wrote:

WhenWillitEnd  Wrote:

Can I bring my guns?

I have nothing against guns and i dont want to tell people what to do.

But you want to tell us we have to live without money or barter?

Elizabeth  Wrote:

Jackinthebox  Wrote:

I don't see why not. As long as I still had my own personal rights. You could have a completely Constitutional yet moneyless barter society right here in America without being considered communist, or even socialist.

But see if you have followed Kash's other threads... He has this dream of collective living, where people are forced to put in, in order to receive the handouts from those that run the collectives.

Which is communist/socialist

while i don't believe in a forced society., i think it's foolish to dismiss the benefits of certain aspects of "socialism" and labeling them as communist=bad bad bad.

we need to modify our language around such things if we ever hope to evolve past our sticking points.