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Why Christians MUST go through the Tribulation
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Ray
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08-17-2012 01:12 AM
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RE: Why Christians MUST go through the Tribulation
LoP Guest Wrote:Ray Wrote:LoP Guest Wrote:Those verses have nothing to do with the second coming, but gets used repeatedly about it.
So what are they referring to?
I'll delve into that later. I have to go cook something to eat. I'll cya friend.
That's cool. Have a good one.
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NutzMcTaffy
Pastor McTaffy
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08-17-2012 01:14 AM
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RE: Why Christians MUST go through the Tribulation
Ray Wrote:NutzMcTaffy Wrote:I dont think God would do that to his people who had believed in him fully and trusted in him all along....
WE WILL BE RAPTURED before shit hits the fan....
Its the whole reason for having faith.. and trust.. knowing that you will be Taken.. away to safety...
if Believers in Jesus are suppose to stay here and suffer like the world is,,, there is no reason for living a good life now ... and that is the logical reason why there will be a rapture... because all of us that trusted... will be saved
( all my opinion)
Eternal life isn't a good reason? 
all I am saying is...
If all of us believers and told we are suppose to go through judgement like everyone else... what is the point of trying to be a good person now.. when we will go through the same hell to get there... I would hope and I do believe we will be taken before that happens... it just makes logical sense to me... because the other way just seems f*cked up
Everytime we feel like we are "drowning" is life's situations... don't worry our savior walks on water
A gem cannot be polished without friction, nor a man perfected without trials.
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Ray
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08-17-2012 01:20 AM
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RE: Why Christians MUST go through the Tribulation
NutzMcTaffy Wrote:Ray Wrote:NutzMcTaffy Wrote:I dont think God would do that to his people who had believed in him fully and trusted in him all along....
WE WILL BE RAPTURED before shit hits the fan....
Its the whole reason for having faith.. and trust.. knowing that you will be Taken.. away to safety...
if Believers in Jesus are suppose to stay here and suffer like the world is,,, there is no reason for living a good life now ... and that is the logical reason why there will be a rapture... because all of us that trusted... will be saved
( all my opinion)
Eternal life isn't a good reason?
all I am saying is...
If all of us believers and told we are suppose to go through judgement like everyone else... what is the point of trying to be a good person now.. when we will go through the same hell to get there... I would hope and I do believe we will be taken before that happens... it just makes logical sense to me... because the other way just seems f*cked up
Compared with eternity, our lives here are a split second in time. No matter how much you suffer in the mortal life, doesn't matter that much.
There is a book called Foxe's Book of Martyrs. There are amazing stories of Christians being torn up by lions that apparently felt no pain, praising God as they died. IOW, people of real faith have the Lord comforting them as they are dying for their faith.
If you are a true Christian, you will never really die. Fair enough?
Me, I'm a back slider and still trying to improve.
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HardTruth
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08-17-2012 01:24 AM
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RE: Why Christians MUST go through the Tribulation
LoP Guest Wrote:HardTruth Wrote:There will be no rapture, it will be more akin to a capture during the great harvest!!
You would of been a great evanglelist, had you not apostated. Listened to a little too much Coast to Coast AM, and believed the crap.
Not at all, the insight comes from reading the WHOLE story, not just from your book of HOLES!!
If it seeketh, expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
If an entity were not judgmental and if an entity were not controlling then it would have no need to be either just nor "merciful" in the first place now would it!? - Cosmah
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sea
I am not here not there, where am i ?
User ID: 108615
08-17-2012 01:26 AM
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RE: Why Christians MUST go through the Tribulation
NutzMcTaffy Wrote:Ray Wrote:NutzMcTaffy Wrote:I dont think God would do that to his people who had believed in him fully and trusted in him all along....
WE WILL BE RAPTURED before shit hits the fan....
Its the whole reason for having faith.. and trust.. knowing that you will be Taken.. away to safety...
if Believers in Jesus are suppose to stay here and suffer like the world is,,, there is no reason for living a good life now ... and that is the logical reason why there will be a rapture... because all of us that trusted... will be saved
( all my opinion)
Eternal life isn't a good reason?
all I am saying is...
If all of us believers and told we are suppose to go through judgement like everyone else... what is the point of trying to be a good person now.. when we will go through the same hell to get there... I would hope and I do believe we will be taken before that happens... it just makes logical sense to me... because the other way just seems f*cked up
Romans 2:2-11
King James Version (KJV)
2 But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things.
3 And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?
4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?
5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
11 For there is no respect of persons with God.
Yes you go through judgement like everyone else. We have a perspective on what is good and wrong but would that be the same perspective which god has ! And yes you can say that christ died for you and took away you're sins but that happens only once, not twice. So ask you're self whether you repented or not for the sins you made after he took them away. Did you obey the truth for there are many who try and tell you the truth and if one accept these things blindly than how do you know for sure that it is the truth ! This is why we are told that we must believe so we never start digging and find them to be lie's.
You bore me with your constant whining. Sea has had enough!
So please go away, and I'll give you some of this useless yellow stuff!
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Strategos
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08-17-2012 01:28 AM
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RE: Why Christians MUST go through the Tribulation
I believe it
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Lewrockwell.com
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I┴∀NIW∩˥˥Iʞ
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08-17-2012 01:29 AM
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RE: Why Christians MUST go through the Tribulation
But there is no rapture in the bible
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LoP Guest
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08-17-2012 01:33 AM
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RE: Why Christians MUST go through the Tribulation
HardTruth Wrote:LoP Guest Wrote:HardTruth Wrote:There will be no rapture, it will be more akin to a capture during the great harvest!!
You would of been a great evanglelist, had you not apostated. Listened to a little too much Coast to Coast AM, and believed the crap.
Not at all, the insight comes from reading the WHOLE story, not just from your book of HOLES!!
I'd say the truth is you're a Jeff Rense/Art Bell junkie...
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LoP Guest
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08-17-2012 01:34 AM
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RE: Why Christians MUST go through the Tribulation
KlLLUMINATI Wrote:But there is no rapture in the bible
True. I believe in a post tribulation end times gathering of Saints.
That other doctrine was introduced by the Jesuits, that took a blood oath to satan to destroy Christianity and America.
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I┴∀NIW∩˥˥Iʞ
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08-17-2012 01:36 AM
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RE: Why Christians MUST go through the Tribulation
LoP Guest Wrote:KlLLUMINATI Wrote:But there is no rapture in the bible
True. I believe in a post tribulation end times gathering of Saints.
That other doctrine was introduced by the Jesuits, that took a blood oath to satan to destroy Christianity and America.
its not like Jesus would return and make a pit stop and then do it over
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NutzMcTaffy
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08-17-2012 01:37 AM
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RE: Why Christians MUST go through the Tribulation
It's Just something I feel in my soul... that all who believe they are going to be safe... and saved... Will.... because god is a loving god.. and his children who trust in him will be saved from judgement.... only to return 7 years later with Jesus Christ...
I know.. you can throw scripture at me, troll me with it...
But all I need is
FAITH and TRUST...
We will be SAFE ..
Everytime we feel like we are "drowning" is life's situations... don't worry our savior walks on water
A gem cannot be polished without friction, nor a man perfected without trials.
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LoP Guest
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User ID: 114991
08-17-2012 01:38 AM
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RE: Why Christians MUST go through the Tribulation
NutzMcTaffy Wrote:It's Just something I feel in my soul... that all who believe they are going to be safe... and saved... Will.... because god is a loving god.. and his children who trust in him will be saved from judgement.... only to return 7 years later with Jesus Christ...
I know.. you can throw scripture at me, troll me with it...
But all I need is
FAITH and TRUST...
We will be SAFE ..
Funny. The Jews thought the same way on their way to the gas chambers....
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LoP Guest
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User ID: 114991
08-17-2012 01:43 AM
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RE: Why Christians MUST go through the Tribulation
KlLLUMINATI Wrote:LoP Guest Wrote:KlLLUMINATI Wrote:But there is no rapture in the bible
True. I believe in a post tribulation end times gathering of Saints.
That other doctrine was introduced by the Jesuits, that took a blood oath to satan to destroy Christianity and America.
its not like Jesus would return and make a pit stop and then do it over
Finally, someone who gets it!
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NutzMcTaffy
Pastor McTaffy
User ID: 63428
08-17-2012 01:43 AM
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RE: Why Christians MUST go through the Tribulation
LoP Guest Wrote:NutzMcTaffy Wrote:It's Just something I feel in my soul... that all who believe they are going to be safe... and saved... Will.... because god is a loving god.. and his children who trust in him will be saved from judgement.... only to return 7 years later with Jesus Christ...
I know.. you can throw scripture at me, troll me with it...
But all I need is
FAITH and TRUST...
We will be SAFE ..
Funny. The Jews thought the same way on their way to the gas chambers....
They are things we as humans can not comprehend as our souls are just stuck in these meatsuits that we are trapped in...and we cant directly answer for WHY god would allow this to happen... but one thing I know.. without a doubt... It's the ones who have passed on. who are with god in heaven ,,, are the ones who feel sorry for us .... all of us must feel loss at times , anger , being lost in faith... we must all fall to the very bottom... of life... that is when you truly understand life and will begin to grow.. only then will you find god and what his plan is for you...
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Everytime we feel like we are "drowning" is life's situations... don't worry our savior walks on water
A gem cannot be polished without friction, nor a man perfected without trials.
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LoP Guest
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08-17-2012 01:46 AM
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RE: Why Christians MUST go through the Tribulation
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