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**NEESIE**

TruthSneaker Wrote:

NEESIE Wrote:
TruthSneaker Wrote:
Oh my... for all the facts and points I made in my posts all you can come up is copy/pasting?

This is what I do not like... people with oppinion which they can not even talk about let alone think about it.

meh... funny that you post the story when your "semi-God" which you worship is picking a man because he know the "true God".

if it bothers you that i copy and paste then i cannot help that. It doesnt make me wrong does it.

It doesn't make you anything... you're just posting what some other guy is thinking for you.

So you can be neither wrong or right as you yourself have no opinion on the matter.

What bothers me is that you keep on posting without any arguments or any thinking at all. You do not care about discussing things. That bothers me. When a person in light of new information can only post quotes of the old knowledge.

But it is ok... we all have all the time in the universe to come to a higher and more complete understanding.

I am on a lot of pages on this thread answering questions and having unpasted dialogue. did you come on the last page, only just to annoy me. Geesh.

**TruthSneaker** · (This post was last modified: 04-11-2012 05:46 PM by TruthSneaker.)

NEESIE Wrote:

TruthSneaker Wrote:
NEESIE Wrote:
if it bothers you that i copy and paste then i cannot help that. It doesnt make me wrong does it.

It doesn't make you anything... you're just posting what some other guy is thinking for you.

So you can be neither wrong or right as you yourself have no opinion on the matter.

What bothers me is that you keep on posting without any arguments or any thinking at all. You do not care about discussing things. That bothers me. When a person in light of new information can only post quotes of the old knowledge.

But it is ok... we all have all the time in the universe to come to a higher and more complete understanding.

I am on a lot of pages on this thread answering questions and having unpasted dialogue. did you come on the last page, only just to annoy me. Geesh.

Came on the last page to annoy you?

I was trying to have a somewhat meaningful discussion with you for the last 6 pages.

Which is quite obviously impossible with you... have fun preaching the book.

S977

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 89664 04-11-2012 06:58 PM

It is right in their masonic oath!

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/holly.html#VII

PART SEVEN: KNIGHTS KADOSH -- THIRTIETH DEGREE

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 14571 04-11-2012 07:21 PM

LoP Guest Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
I see it all the time, and especially on Holy days like today. If you don't believe in God or Jesus, why do some people find it necessary to make rude comments and remarks regarding them? You don't have to believe or pay any attention to it, so why take the time to actually post a thread or comment being mean and nasty?

I know there is no answer, just that some people are lower on the totem pole of maturity and spiritual growth, but I just wanted to get this out there. Try to be kind on this day, and show some respect for others.

Happy Easter everybody!

I dunno, maybe because you are a bunch of grown ups who still believe in fairy tales, and you are borderline insane with your never-ending wars of religion, hate speech against other religions and against those who are not religious, sentencing them to an eternity of fire and torture because they do not believe in your f*cking fairy tale..

Does that about cover it?

^ This...so we try to have some humor about the whole damn thing!

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 58515 04-11-2012 07:45 PM

LoP Guest Wrote:

I think us non cult members found a phrase that the cult members do not like to hear , so always remember to say this phrase to them, when they push their insane cult beliefs on you.

MY BELIEFS ARE THAT GOOD PEOPLE GET DIVINE REWARDS , NOT NECCESSARILY RELIGIOUS PEOPLE.

I assume a CULT MEMBER TO YOU is someone who has a FAITH BASED BELIEF SYSTEM.

I was at the debate in downtown Phoenix last Friday between Vocab and 2 atheists (just to make it fair.)
http://vocabmalone.blogspot.com/2012/04/...-gods.html
The Atheists agreed they could NOT prove the non existence of God.
Yet, they purport to know there is not a God?????
That, by definition is a FAITH BASE BELIEF SYSTEM.
That means Atheism is just another FAITH BASED CULT..... CORRECT????

So what makes YOUR CULT better than MY CULT?
I can tell you this, and you'll probably agree, that a more closely controlled ATHEIST world would NEVER allow a place for other FAITH BASED BELIEF SYSTEMS.
SOME Diest FAITH BASED BELIEF SYSTEMS do allow other FAITH BASED BELIEF SYSTEMS.
Christianity for example.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 14571 04-11-2012 08:11 PM

Is there any point in posting that the original meaning and usage of "faith" by the disciples meant the experience and solidification of their belief?

Faith, real operable faith is by virtue of personal proof of the existence of God.

Today's meaning of the word "faith" is in exact opposition to it's original intention and function.

It has become anti-faith.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 82316 04-11-2012 08:16 PM

TruthSneaker Wrote:

NEESIE Wrote:
TruthSneaker Wrote:
It doesn't make you anything... you're just posting what some other guy is thinking for you.

So you can be neither wrong or right as you yourself have no opinion on the matter.

What bothers me is that you keep on posting without any arguments or any thinking at all. You do not care about discussing things. That bothers me. When a person in light of new information can only post quotes of the old knowledge.

But it is ok... we all have all the time in the universe to come to a higher and more complete understanding.

I am on a lot of pages on this thread answering questions and having unpasted dialogue. did you come on the last page, only just to annoy me. Geesh.

Came on the last page to annoy you?

I was trying to have a somewhat meaningful discussion with you for the last 6 pages.

Which is quite obviously impossible with you... have fun preaching the book.

About time you caught on....

NESSE threads are a one way affair.

**Jessica6** · (This post was last modified: 04-11-2012 08:29 PM by Jessica6.)

LoP Guest Wrote:

I see it all the time, and especially on Holy days like today. If you don't believe in God or Jesus, why do some people find it necessary to make rude comments and remarks regarding them? You don't have to believe or pay any attention to it, so why take the time to actually post a thread or comment being mean and nasty?

Same reason people mock anyone for anything else. Makes them feel superior.

For me it depends. I don't mock sincere devotees who earnestly want some guidance into how to live life, need faith of some sort to get through tough times or even just follow some rituals for social reasons or to meet people.

But those who give all their money to what should be obvious scammers like Benny Hinn or Creeflo Dollar, door-knocking JWs or the really histrionic wailing types? Oh yeah, I just can't help it.

Honestly though, I find atheists as dogmatic and tiresome as I find religious zealots.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 58515 04-11-2012 09:30 PM

W.R.H. Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
I see it all the time, and especially on Holy days like today. If you don't believe in God or Jesus, why do some people find it necessary to make rude comments and remarks regarding them? You don't have to believe or pay any attention to it, so why take the time to actually post a thread or comment being mean and nasty?

I know there is no answer, just that some people are lower on the totem pole of maturity and spiritual growth, but I just wanted to get this out there. Try to be kind on this day, and show some respect for others.

Happy Easter everybody!

It's usually because those who are religious tend to judge those who aren't and many times treat them as if they aren't even human. Most people tend to fight back when they feel threatened by a person or group at large...

I have actually found the HARSH JUDGING FAR more common with the Atheists; though it is very common among the religious too.
All the Atheists attacking here are HARSHLY JUDGING.

Simply judging is of course merely evaluating something... we all do it pretty much every minute of our day.
SIMPLY JUDGING is simply rationally evaluating things.... surely ATHEISTS would not advocate not RATIONALLY EVALUATING THINGS...

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 87639 04-11-2012 09:47 PM

The difference between Christians and unbelievers is like children who trust their parents and those who don't. The Christian child trusts that his parents know more than he does and that they love him. So when his parents tell him not to do certain things, such as, for example, play with fire, the Christian child trusts their wisdom and avoids playing with fire no matter how fascinating the flames may appear. The unbelieving child does not trust its parents and decides that such lovely bright flames can't hurt him so he tries to catch a flame, and gets burned.

You see, there are some things which children do not, and cannot understand at their early stage of life, but they are wise to trust their parents instructions. In the same way, adult Christians and unbelievers do not, and cannot understand at our mortal human stage, but we are wise to trust God's superior wisdom and heed His instructions to us.

When the children have grown into adults they then see and understand why their parents forbade them to do certain things, and realize how right and good their parents were in their care of them. The same will happen when human beings move beyond this mortal clay and into "spiritual adults" who can see and understand through the light of their souls that God was right, and that it was good to heed His wise instructions.

Unbelievers need to realize the futility of trying to understand the Infinite Mind of God with their finite mortal mind.

**Sentient 6**

because its funny to make fun of retards

**akhenaten** · (This post was last modified: 04-12-2012 04:41 PM by akhenaten.)

LoP Guest Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
I think us non cult members found a phrase that the cult members do not like to hear , so always remember to say this phrase to them, when they push their insane cult beliefs on you.

MY BELIEFS ARE THAT GOOD PEOPLE GET DIVINE REWARDS , NOT NECCESSARILY RELIGIOUS PEOPLE.

I assume a CULT MEMBER TO YOU is someone who has a FAITH BASED BELIEF SYSTEM.

I was at the debate in downtown Phoenix last Friday between Vocab and 2 atheists (just to make it fair.)
http://vocabmalone.blogspot.com/2012/04/...-gods.html
The Atheists agreed they could NOT prove the non existence of God.
Yet, they purport to know there is not a God?????
That, by definition is a FAITH BASE BELIEF SYSTEM.
That means Atheism is just another FAITH BASED CULT..... CORRECT????

So what makes YOUR CULT better than MY CULT?
I can tell you this, and you'll probably agree, that a more closely controlled ATHEIST world would NEVER allow a place for other FAITH BASED BELIEF SYSTEMS.
SOME Diest FAITH BASED BELIEF SYSTEMS do allow other FAITH BASED BELIEF SYSTEMS.
Christianity for example.

Your comparison is off. The LACK of evidence to support an existence of a "god" is the proof for a lack of existence. That is how science works....it's only a THEORY until you have evidence (you know...the empirical type), you don't get to call "fact" without said evidence. So saying that atheism is a cult because they are following a scientific method, is pure shit. Science is NOT faith...it is the antithesis of faith. Don't try to muddy the waters by using circular logic.

**FreedomStands**

I really hate when people say WELL YOU CAN'T PROVE THERE ISN'T A GOD!

That is so weak.

Yeah, you can't prove there isn't some ball of goo with mental prowess flying somewhere in space, but that isn't any reason to believe there is, let alone worship it.

You can prove that God exists logically, or at least what I call God.

You can also make some convincing statements about how some versions or ideas of God are ridiculous and likely don't exist.

**akhenaten**

LoP Guest Wrote:

The difference between Christians and unbelievers is like children who trust their parents and those who don't. The Christian child trusts that his parents know more than he does and that they love him. So when his parents tell him not to do certain things, such as, for example, play with fire, the Christian child trusts their wisdom and avoids playing with fire no matter how fascinating the flames may appear. The unbelieving child does not trust its parents and decides that such lovely bright flames can't hurt him so he tries to catch a flame, and gets burned.

You see, there are some things which children do not, and cannot understand at their early stage of life, but they are wise to trust their parents instructions. In the same way, adult Christians and unbelievers do not, and cannot understand at our mortal human stage, but we are wise to trust God's superior wisdom and heed His instructions to us.

When the children have grown into adults they then see and understand why their parents forbade them to do certain things, and realize how right and good their parents were in their care of them. The same will happen when human beings move beyond this mortal clay and into "spiritual adults" who can see and understand through the light of their souls that God was right, and that it was good to heed His wise instructions.

Unbelievers need to realize the futility of trying to understand the Infinite Mind of God with their finite mortal mind.

So...following your "logic" here. What do you say about santa claus, the easter bunny or the tooth fairy? You should trust in your parents' wisdom right? So by your logic, again, if you trust your parents' wisdom you would literally be running around waiting for santa to bring you your pay raise. Parents and especially the church are not the authority, or full of wisdom for that matter. If you don't question anything, you are sheeple...and ignorant sheeple at that.

**akhenaten**

FreedomStands Wrote:

I really hate when people say WELL YOU CAN'T PROVE THERE ISN'T A GOD!

That is so weak.

Yeah, you can't prove there isn't some ball of goo with mental prowess flying somewhere in space, but that isn't any reason to believe there is, let alone worship it.

You can prove that God exists logically, or at least what I call God.

You can also make some convincing statements about how some versions or ideas of God are ridiculous and likely don't exist.

The burden of proof is on the believer...NOT the non-believer. (like me) IF you (Proverbial you) want to try to convert or convince me, then you better have some f*cking evidence...if not...then go back to avoiding black cats, walking around ladders, and not stepping on cracks, and more importantly stop proselytizing. Heartflowers