TruthSneaker  Wrote:

NEESIE  Wrote:

well, I do bless you and respect how you feel. It just Isnt the same way that i feel. I was once a hardcore atheist. but one day i found myself telling my young nephews that God did not exist.

It later occured to me that I really didnt have anything to base that opinion on. And it frightened me that i was telling my nephews something that could end up destroying them. This made me want to do some research before i opened my mouth on the subject again.

that was a few years ago, I have since learned that there are very many signs that indicate an intelligent creator. and that Jesus christ and pontous pilot did exist!!

and the reason i believe that the God I now love is the God of the bible is because the bible is the oldest. This would indicate that it is a guidebook for the creation. Inside this book is an answer for almost any scenario. It explains the whole shebang, who,what,where,when and why. I would dare you to find these things elsewhere, the koran came out after the torah and much has been copied from scripture.

I just don't want others to condemn themselves the same way that i did. I have ruined my one nephew against God, but the other one knows that God does exist.

Thank for your honesty, and sorry in advance since I am going to be honest too.

I was a hardcore atheist myself about 6 years ago, the thought of even thinking about the Bible as being something else than a fairy tale made me laugh and want to argue with whoever was defending it.

Then I started to do a bit of research of myself and during the years came to a completely different view of everything. I would not go into complete details as this would not be the point of this debate.

What I would like to point out at first is that your first desire to know about Bible was not a desire of knowledge or truth but a desire of feeling safe and guarded. And the sole reason for that is fear.

Fear is the core mechanics of the Bible and religion, without fear, there is no worship and no religion.
So your quest that you enbarked was for wrong reasions and if you search for without a right reasion you find the wrong answer.

And fear is a negative energy... And the Bible thrives on it.


As for your quite silly remark about the most ancient... are you for real?

You have Vedas in India that are thousands of years older and tell the whole story of the Earth in a very more logical way.

You have Sumerian tablets that predate Israeli of an ancient religion that deals with the subject also in a more logical way.

And while we're at it... Israeli- Jewish religion came from the Ka'anite religion of multiple "Gods" which then the Jewish empire completely destroyed and covered almost all traces of their previous religion.

The very true and undeniable fact is that ALL present day "Christian" (Christian, Muslim, Jewish) are based on Pagan religions of multiple dieties. Even the stories are almost completely the same apart from the names.

I fear God, as is proper. But Really I LOVE God. It is very simple.


The biblical record is relatively silent about much of this period, although it does provide some hints. After Babel, the earth’s population became divided by language, and the different language groups became scattered all over the earth and ultimately formed their own culture (Gen. 11:8–9). As noted above, views about God and religious practice are a central part of culture. It is clear from the Babel account that even before the dispersion, humans had already begun to forget or suppress the truth about God. It is at this point in the Genesis account, after Babel, that we meet Abram. There is no indication in the account why God chose to call him to the land Canaan. Presumably Abram was a man who retained some knowledge of the one true God, so God chose him and his family to be His special people.

http://creation.com/review-stark-discovering-god

One of the biggest gripes that unbelievers keep repeating endlessly is hell. How awesomely absurd it is for unbelievers to think that hell indicates the God is not loving. What do you people want? Do you want Hitler to be given the same reward that Mother Theresa is given? THINK! Practice what you people preach and THINK!

LoP Guest  Wrote:

One of the biggest gripes that unbelievers keep repeating endlessly is hell. How awesomely absurd it is for unbelievers to think that hell indicates the God is not loving. What do you people want? Do you want Hitler to be given the same reward that Mother Theresa is given? THINK! Practice what you people preach and THINK!

you just fuked up..and showed how insane religions really are..

BECAUSE...

religions often teach that no matter how evil a person was on earth, if that person converts to the crorect religion, before they die, they can still enter heaven.

it must suck, to be a braindead cult member like yourself..and that you cant even see the insanitys that you are exposing.

One of the biggest gripes that unbelievers keep repeating endlessly is hell. How awesomely absurd it is for unbelievers to think that hell indicates the God is not loving. What do you people want? Do you want Hitler to be given the same reward that Mother Theresa is given? THINK! Practice what you people preach and THINK!

Galaxy  Wrote:

Because this isn't a religious forum.

Furthermore it's a forum about conspiracy. And there is no greater conspiracy mankind has ever faced than organized religion.

Currahee  Wrote:

Galaxy  Wrote:

Because this isn't a religious forum.

Furthermore it's a forum about conspiracy. And there is no greater conspiracy mankind has ever faced than organized religion.

CONSPIRACY FORUM?

rumors based on lies?

isn't that what a conspiracy is?

Justice demands that there be a hell. What a person sows is what that person deserves. It would be absurd to give the same reward to evil men that is given to saints.

LoP Guest  Wrote:

One of the biggest gripes that unbelievers keep repeating endlessly is hell. How awesomely absurd it is for unbelievers to think that hell indicates the God is not loving. What do you people want? Do you want Hitler to be given the same reward that Mother Theresa is given? THINK! Practice what you people preach and THINK!

What happens to the ones between mother theresa and hitler ?

I try to be a good human, but i fail sometimes.

I don't believe in bible crap either.

So tell me, whats my destiny ????

Galaxy  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

One of the biggest gripes that unbelievers keep repeating endlessly is hell. How awesomely absurd it is for unbelievers to think that hell indicates the God is not loving. What do you people want? Do you want Hitler to be given the same reward that Mother Theresa is given? THINK! Practice what you people preach and THINK!

What happens to the ones between mother theresa and hitler ?

I try to be a good human, but i fail sometimes.

I don't believe in bible crap either.

So tell me, whats my destiny ????

You will be purged. Some people refer to it as purgatory. Some people call it the astral world. There is a place after death where people who made mistakes will make amends for those mistakes and to learn the correct way to live. Many who are not Christians on this side of life will become Christians on the other side.

Galaxy  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

One of the biggest gripes that unbelievers keep repeating endlessly is hell. How awesomely absurd it is for unbelievers to think that hell indicates the God is not loving. What do you people want? Do you want Hitler to be given the same reward that Mother Theresa is given? THINK! Practice what you people preach and THINK!

What happens to the ones between mother theresa and hitler ?

I try to be a good human, but i fail sometimes.

I don't believe in bible crap either.

So tell me, whats my destiny ????

You will be purged. Some people refer to it as purgatory. Some people call it the astral world. There is a place after death where people who made mistakes will make amends for those mistakes and to learn the correct way to live. Many who are not Christians on this side of life will become Christians on the other side.

all GOOD people should go to heaven..

not neccesarily all

RELIGIOUS people

because quite often, religious people are not good people.