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**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 49548 12-16-2011 03:59 AM

Absolutely no reason to stick that on an employer, not to mention the unemployed, disabled, elderly, etc.

As the rest of the world knows, Health CARE is the responsibility of the government.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 49548 12-16-2011 04:00 AM

I'm curious about the historical aspects of this...how and when did it happen?

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 51860 12-16-2011 04:01 AM

It happened when Hollywood took over the White House in Reagan's term for Israel and dismantled the entire state while building up the war machine to fight proxy wars for the Jooos

**absurdious** · **absurdious** INFP User ID: 27152 12-16-2011 04:03 AM **Posts: 15,902**

LoP Guest Wrote:

Health CARE is the responsibility of the government.

How about YOU are responsible for your own health care...

**Mother Mary**

absurdious Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
Health CARE is the responsibility of the government.

How about YOU are responsible for your own health care...

But, then you don't get group rates.....

**Max Powers** lop guest User ID: 66176 12-16-2011 04:05 AM

you dont have to be employed to have health insurance, but the cost is very prohibitive. i think companies cut deals with insurance companies to get discounted rates..

**Luvapottamus**

It happened under NIXON.

The reason why it's tied to employment is to tie the employee to the employer. No matter how abusive.

The previous STANDARD was better.

It mandated the number of hospital beds per capita per county, and funded the construction of HOSPITALS.

NIXON was a NAZI.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 62850 12-16-2011 04:06 AM

absurdious Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
Health CARE is the responsibility of the government.

How about YOU are responsible for your own health care...

I can't really perform surgery on myself.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 51860 12-16-2011 04:08 AM

Oh please, Nixon was another Hollywood prop

**Foodnipple** · **Foodnipple** ♋ User ID: 67696 12-16-2011 04:11 AM **Posts: 4,850**

LoP Guest Wrote:

absurdious Wrote:
LoP Guest Wrote:
Health CARE is the responsibility of the government.

How about YOU are responsible for your own health care...

I can't really perform surgery on myself.

Nonsense!

Heres some whiskey and a knife, Have at it!

**Luvapottamus**

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QkgUkM0o6Q

The Hill-Burton Act was the previous standard.

If we extended medicare to Hill-Burton it'd be CHEAPER and BETTER than HMO.

Alternatively, we could have State Health insurance and Hill-Burton.

Rebates fo surpluses.

(I know what I'm talking about, my grandfather was President of Oklahoma Blue Cross before it went quasi-profit)

But I have to bail for a debate. Will return once it's streaming.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 49548 12-16-2011 04:17 AM

Luvapottamus Wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QkgUkM0o6Q

The Hill-Burton Act was the previous standard.

If we extended medicare to Hill-Burton it'd be CHEAPER and BETTER than HMO.

Alternatively, we could have State Health insurance and Hill-Burton.

Rebates fo surpluses.

(I know what I'm talking about, my grandfather was President of Oklahoma Blue Cross before it went quasi-profit)

But I have to bail for a debate. Will return once it's streaming.

Thanks for the info...I'm in my 50's and don't remember people complaining about health care costs when I was a kid- usually just one parent worked and everyone was covered.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 68111 12-16-2011 04:21 AM

absurdious Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
Health CARE is the responsibility of the government.

How about YOU are responsible for your own health care...

You'd rather have a world where irresponsible people shuffle around the streets on little skate boards and poor people walk along coughing their TB all over you. Old ladies and old men picking up cans, cigarette butts and mcdonald sacks with some fries left in it. What a wonderful world. Pottersville. It's ok to have 750 military bases around the world and fight 5 wars simultaneously, but not a penny for the irresponsible poor. f*ck em.

**Dial-up**

Luvapottamus Wrote:

It happened under NIXON.

The reason why it's tied to employment is to tie the employee to the employer. No matter how abusive.

The previous STANDARD was better.

It mandated the number of hospital beds per capita per county, and funded the construction of HOSPITALS.

NIXON was a NAZI.

**Silly Bastard**

It won't be that way much longer, if you can find a job that offers benefits anymore you are very lucky.