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**The Lucky AC** Everything in life is luck User ID: 888 09-09-2012 12:59 AM

I am a middle class Christian, and a Republican. Recently a Family member was shocked when I said that I really don't care about gay marriage.
They acted like I was a traitor or something, but they were unable to articulate WHY I should care about gay marriage, only citing that it is an attack on traditional family values.
How so?
Honestly, I don't see how two guys, or girls getting married affects my family at all.
Can somebody please explain this in a simple way, evidently I am not as smart as I thought.

**MJ21**

You shouldnt care about gays..... but gay marriage you should, look if you wanna live that lifestyle fine, But marriage is between man and woman, I hold my marriage sacred

**Defector**

If marriage is so sacred how about making divorce illegal?

**MJ21**

Defector Wrote:

If marriage is so sacred how about making divorce illegal?

No complain here

**MJ21**

Find your true love and you'll think the same

**The Lucky AC** Everything in life is luck User ID: 888 09-09-2012 01:11 AM

http://deadspin.com/5941348/they-wont-ma...porting-it

Baltimore Ravens linebacker Brendon Ayanbadejo has spoken out in favor of a Maryland ballot initiative that would legalize gay marriage. Yahoo has published a letter that Maryland state delegate Emmett C. Burns Jr. wrote last week to Ravens owner Steve Bisciotti, urging him to "inhibit such expressions from your employee." This is Minnesota Vikings punter Chris Kluwe's response to Burns.

Maybe this answer can better address your question OP

**flintstone** lop guest User ID: 95037 09-09-2012 01:11 AM

the only reason u even know about it is that the pole smokers have taken over every damn media outlet and made us listen to their dribble about how they should have equal rights and all the other horseshit that they have been selling. it's not enough to be gay for them. we have to all be happy that they are gay and or become gay too. personally i'm sick of hearing about it. closets were invented for a reason.

**1110.00** lop guest User ID: 115486 09-09-2012 01:11 AM

Just make it so no government has any control over the issue with "legal recognition" and such.

**Cammi**

The Lucky AC Wrote:

I am a middle class Christian, and a Republican. Recently a Family member was shocked when I said that I really don't care about gay marriage.
They acted like I was a traitor or something, but they were unable to articulate WHY I should care about gay marriage, only citing that it is an attack on traditional family values.
How so?
Honestly, I don't see how two guys, or girls getting married affects my family at all.
Can somebody please explain this in a simple way, evidently I am not as smart as I thought.

I've read that its some agenda by TPTB to ruin society's morals, or something like that.

**Disturbed nli** Not the real one! User ID: 1 09-09-2012 01:13 AM

The Lucky AC Wrote:

I am a middle class Christian, and a Republican. Recently a Family member was shocked when I said that I really don't care about gay marriage.
They acted like I was a traitor or something, but they were unable to articulate WHY I should care about gay marriage, only citing that it is an attack on traditional family values.
How so?
Honestly, I don't see how two guys, or girls getting married affects my family at all.
Can somebody please explain this in a simple way, evidently I am not as smart as I thought.

If you're a christian it's clearly against what you guys believe

**Aalia** · **Aalia** CyBorg User ID: 117675 09-09-2012 01:14 AM **Posts: 3,078**

Baltimore Ravens linebacker Brendon Ayanbadejo has spoken out in favor of a Maryland ballot initiative that would legalize gay marriage. A letter published from Maryland state delegate Emmett C. Burns Jr. wrote last week to Ravens owner Steve Bisciotti, urged him to "inhibit such expressions from your employee."

This is Minnesota Vikings punter Chris Kluwe's response to Burns.

Dear Emmett C. Burns Jr.,

I find it inconceivable that you are an elected official of Maryland's state government. Your vitriolic hatred and bigotry make me ashamed and disgusted to think that you are in any way responsible for shaping policy at any level. The views you espouse neglect to consider several fundamental key points, which I will outline in great detail (you may want to hire an intern to help you with the longer words):

1. As I suspect you have not read the Constitution, I would like to remind you that the very first, the VERY FIRST Amendment in this founding document deals with the freedom of speech, particularly the abridgment of said freedom. By using your position as an elected official (when referring to your constituents so as to implicitly threaten the Ravens organization) to state that the Ravens should "inhibit such expressions from your employees," more specifically Brendon Ayanbadejo, not only are you clearly violating the First Amendment, you also come across as a narcissistic fromunda stain. What on earth would possess you to be so mind-boggingly stupid? It baffles me that a man such as yourself, a man who relies on that same First Amendment to pursue your own religious studies without fear of persecution from the state, could somehow justify stifling another person's right to speech. To call that hypocritical would be to do a disservice to the word. Mindfucking obscenely hypocritical starts to approach it a little bit.

2. "Many of your fans are opposed to such a view and feel it has no place in a sport that is strictly for pride, entertainment, and excitement." Holy f*cking shitballs. Did you seriously just say that, as someone who's "deeply involved in government task forces on the legacy of slavery in Maryland"? Have you not heard of Kenny Washington? Jackie Robinson? As recently as 1962 the NFL still had segregation, which was only done away with by brave athletes and coaches daring to speak their mind and do the right thing, and you're going to say that political views have "no place in a sport"? I can't even begin to fathom the cognitive dissonance that must be coursing through your rapidly addled mind right now; the mental gymnastics your brain has to tortuously contort itself through to make such a preposterous statement are surely worthy of an Olympic gold medal (the Russian judge gives you a 10 for "beautiful oppressionism").

3. This is more a personal quibble of mine, but why do you hate freedom? Why do you hate the fact that other people want a chance to live their lives and be happy, even though they may believe in something different than you, or act different than you? How does gay marriage, in any way shape or form, affect your life? If gay marriage becomes legal, are you worried that all of a sudden you'll start thinking about penis? "Oh shit. Gay marriage just passed. Gotta get me some of that hot dong action!" Will all of your friends suddenly turn gay and refuse to come to your Sunday Ticket grill-outs? (Unlikely, since gay people enjoy watching football too.)

I can assure you that gay people getting married will have zero effect on your life. They won't come into your house and steal your children. They won't magically turn you into a lustful cockmonster. They won't even overthrow the government in an orgy of hedonistic debauchery because all of a sudden they have the same legal rights as the other 90 percent of our population—rights like Social Security benefits, child care tax credits, Family and Medical Leave to take care of loved ones, and COBRA healthcare for spouses and children. You know what having these rights will make gays? Full-fledged American citizens just like everyone else, with the freedom to pursue happiness and all that entails. Do the civil-rights struggles of the past 200 years mean absolutely nothing to you?

In closing, I would like to say that I hope this letter, in some small way, causes you to reflect upon the magnitude of the colossal foot in mouth clusterfuck you so brazenly unleashed on a man whose only crime was speaking out for something he believed in. Best of luck in the next election; I'm fairly certain you might need it.

Sincerely,
Chris Kluwe

P.S. I've also been vocal as hell about the issue of gay marriage so you can take your "I know of no other NFL player who has done what Mr. Ayanbadejo is doing" and shove it in your close-minded, totally lacking in empathy piehole and choke on it. Asshole.

**Cammi**

Kmgcottex Wrote:

Defector Wrote:
If marriage is so sacred how about making divorce illegal?

No complain here

In MD you have to wait a year after separation to finalize a divorce... Imo, I think divorces should be instant and you have to wait a year or two to remarry.

**Yoyodyne**

They can do what every they want but I am sick and tired of hearing about it everywhere I turn. Get back in the closet.

**Aalia** · **Aalia** CyBorg User ID: 117675 09-09-2012 01:16 AM **Posts: 3,078**

The Lucky AC Wrote:

http://deadspin.com/5941348/they-wont-ma...porting-it

Baltimore Ravens linebacker Brendon Ayanbadejo has spoken out in favor of a Maryland ballot initiative that would legalize gay marriage. Yahoo has published a letter that Maryland state delegate Emmett C. Burns Jr. wrote last week to Ravens owner Steve Bisciotti, urging him to "inhibit such expressions from your employee." This is Minnesota Vikings punter Chris Kluwe's response to Burns.

Maybe this answer can better address your question OP

Dammit!! I was editing my post while you were posting this!

I hate when that happens but good shit right? This thread made me think of this letter, so I posted the text. Sorry your post wasn't here when I started my reply! There was only the OP and one reply!

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 119514 09-09-2012 01:17 AM