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Will we ever be privy to our family trees?
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10-24-2012 07:07 AM

 



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Will we ever be privy to our family trees?
There are records kept, census' and whatnot. Will we ever have access to everything known about us? At least our lineage?

I think its possible...who knows?
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Aqua
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10-24-2012 07:28 AM

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RE: Will we ever be privy to our family trees?
you can start here...

http://www.ancestry.com/?o_xid=21837&o_l...sch=Search

you have to remember that beyond the SSDI (social security death index) and census reports, that unless some member of your own family has not input other data on your ancestors, that you might not find much.

but it's always worth a try!

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Dreaminglady
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10-24-2012 07:39 AM

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RE: Will we ever be privy to our family trees?
LoP Guest  Wrote:
There are records kept, census' and whatnot. Will we ever have access to everything known about us? At least our lineage?

I think its possible...who knows?

Your lineage just won't be handed to you.
I took 6 years of my life and two uncles on both sides helped me (they had money and retired time on their hands) to search birth records and census and more.

On my Dad's side I know my lineage back to the 17th century and it isn't too impressive but on my mother's side we can trace back to the Tudor age.
On Mom's side my 17th great grandmother was one of (The beheaded) Queen Mary's friend, back in those days women carried a little book of religious hymns and notes and Mary handed her's to my 17th g-granny from the gallows to keep for her.
We are also related to other blue bloods, like the Elder Wyatt that King Henry knew. Even related to the man that was married to Lady Godiva, of course that wasn't her real name. We have ancestors that owned castles.

All I know about my Dad's side was something to do with Scottish turmoil and some went away and respelled their surname (Lindsey) due to the arguments with the royals there and some stayed in Scotland.

What pisses me off very much is tracing a branch on my mom's American side that bread with Native Americans, thanks to the Dawson Rolls and the trail of tears, the US government erased many many many Indian records.
all I know is I had some great great aunts that were so red skinned they could have only been full blooded Sioux.

That is the saddest part, my indian heritage is lost. All I can find is one English man with our surname on mom's side that was wed to an Indian and taken on the trail of tears from North Carolina, he just vanished from the records, maybe died on the way?

That is what gets me. All the way back to the Tudors but let the US government get involved hundreds of years later and some leaves and branches of our tree just vanish into thin air.
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10-24-2012 08:15 AM

 



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RE: Will we ever be privy to our family trees?
i subscribed to ancestry.com and found out i was already in the "one world tree." one of my relatives apparently made a huge hobby out of researching our family ancestry. of the presidents, i'm related closest to jfk, also related to nancy astor, aldous huxley... then it goes pretty far back through royalty. my husband on the other hand seems to have a dead end in his lineage. his father was adopted (half cherokee) and his parents are deceased. his mother's side only goes back a few generations and then stops in what is now czechoslovakia. i had my subscription for several months, but could never find anything about his side.
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Everyone
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10-24-2012 08:24 AM

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RE: Will we ever be privy to our family trees?
This is a good free site by the LDS.
https://familysearch.org/
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10-24-2012 08:27 AM

 



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RE: Will we ever be privy to our family trees?
LoP Guest  Wrote:
There are records kept, census' and whatnot. Will we ever have access to everything known about us? At least our lineage?

I think its possible...who knows?

I found my lineage. All the way back to the year 100ad.
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RE: Will we ever be privy to our family trees?
Dreaminglady  Wrote:
LoP Guest  Wrote:
There are records kept, census' and whatnot. Will we ever have access to everything known about us? At least our lineage?

I think its possible...who knows?

Your lineage just won't be handed to you.
I took 6 years of my life and two uncles on both sides helped me (they had money and retired time on their hands) to search birth records and census and more.

On my Dad's side I know my lineage back to the 17th century and it isn't too impressive but on my mother's side we can trace back to the Tudor age.
On Mom's side my 17th great grandmother was one of (The beheaded) Queen Mary's friend, back in those days women carried a little book of religious hymns and notes and Mary handed her's to my 17th g-granny from the gallows to keep for her.
We are also related to other blue bloods, like the Elder Wyatt that King Henry knew. Even related to the man that was married to Lady Godiva, of course that wasn't her real name. We have ancestors that owned castles.

All I know about my Dad's side was something to do with Scottish turmoil and some went away and respelled their surname (Lindsey) due to the arguments with the royals there and some stayed in Scotland.

What pisses me off very much is tracing a branch on my mom's American side that bread with Native Americans, thanks to the Dawson Rolls and the trail of tears, the US government erased many many many Indian records.
all I know is I had some great great aunts that were so red skinned they could have only been full blooded Sioux.

That is the saddest part, my indian heritage is lost. All I can find is one English man with our surname on mom's side that was wed to an Indian and taken on the trail of tears from North Carolina, he just vanished from the records, maybe died on the way?

That is what gets me. All the way back to the Tudors but let the US government get involved hundreds of years later and some leaves and branches of our tree just vanish into thin air.

On my mother's side, in the family genealogy book, there's a relation to Lady Jane Grey. I use to joke to my friends as a kid that if 5,328,734 people in England died, I would become King. chuckle

I assume I'm related to the Tutor family through her.

Natural disasters, major attack on the U.S., martial law, civil war, WWIII, foreign invasion/occupation, and then basic survival.
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Aqua
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10-24-2012 08:56 AM

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RE: Will we ever be privy to our family trees?
Dreaminglady  Wrote:
On my Dad's side I know my lineage back to the 17th century and it isn't too impressive but on my mother's side we can trace back to the Tudor age.
On Mom's side my 17th great grandmother was one of (The beheaded) Queen Mary's friend, back in those days women carried a little book of religious hymns and notes and Mary handed her's to my 17th g-granny from the gallows to keep for her.
We are also related to other blue bloods, like the Elder Wyatt that King Henry knew. Even related to the man that was married to Lady Godiva, of course that wasn't her real name. We have ancestors that owned castles.

All I know about my Dad's side was something to do with Scottish turmoil and some went away and respelled their surname (Lindsey) due to the arguments with the royals there and some stayed in Scotland.

What pisses me off very much is tracing a branch on my mom's American side that bread with Native Americans, thanks to the Dawson Rolls and the trail of tears, the US government erased many many many Indian records.
all I know is I had some great great aunts that were so red skinned they could have only been full blooded Sioux.

That is the saddest part, my indian heritage is lost. All I can find is one English man with our surname on mom's side that was wed to an Indian and taken on the trail of tears from North Carolina, he just vanished from the records, maybe died on the way?

That is what gets me. All the way back to the Tudors but let the US government get involved hundreds of years later and some leaves and branches of our tree just vanish into thin air.


sounds similar to this family tree, painted by Norman Rockwell....I love that little fair skinned red headed dude that pops out at the top!

[Image: 5D07_508790EF.jpg]

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10-24-2012 09:16 AM

 



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RE: Will we ever be privy to our family trees?
I guess it depends on your family or on your own determination.. my family line (paternal side) goes all the way back to the Domesday book (1086) but that is mostly because my family have been either master craftsmen, scholars or downright criminal..

The scholars kept records down the ages making it all easier to piece it all together, and a line of criminals really makes things simple.. it is easier to find one black sheep than a one hundred fluffy white honest ones :) and master-craftsmen tend to leave their own mark..

None of the above is my own work, that took one of my great uncles most of his lifetime to put together (he had spare time as he was a senior University know it all in London) however my family have lived hear abouts for at least 1,000 years.

The black sheep are the interesting ones... some of mine tend to be the con men type, specialising in conning the nobility out of cash, however it must be said they where never good enough not to get caught.. chuckle
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Aqua
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RE: Will we ever be privy to our family trees?
My mother was adopted, and yet even both sides of my parents genealogy comes to a screeching halt after my folks's parents, (my grandparents).

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10-24-2012 10:08 AM

 



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[Image: B5C6_5087A1E6.jpg]

what more do you need to know, sinner?
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10-24-2012 10:43 AM

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I was adopted...no chance of me finding out a single thing...awesome thread (lol).

Doesn't really matter where you came from...it matters who you are, what you have done with your life.

Someone got into our heads, with big steel toed boots, cable cutters, and a chainsaw...they went to town. Neurons got exposed, curcuits got rewired. Our brain cells got obliterated... (Denzel Washington..."The Manchurian Candidate".)
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10-24-2012 11:43 AM

 



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No. That information is classified.
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10-24-2012 11:45 AM

 



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RE: Will we ever be privy to our family trees?
LoP Guest  Wrote:
I guess it depends on your family or on your own determination.. my family line (paternal side) goes all the way back to the Domesday book (1086) but that is mostly because my family have been either master craftsmen, scholars or downright criminal..

The scholars kept records down the ages making it all easier to piece it all together, and a line of criminals really makes things simple.. it is easier to find one black sheep than a one hundred fluffy white honest ones :) and master-craftsmen tend to leave their own mark..

None of the above is my own work, that took one of my great uncles most of his lifetime to put together (he had spare time as he was a senior University know it all in London) however my family have lived hear abouts for at least 1,000 years.

The black sheep are the interesting ones... some of mine tend to be the con men type, specialising in conning the nobility out of cash, however it must be said they where never good enough not to get caught.. chuckle

Meh. Heroes, all of them, non the less.
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10-24-2012 12:04 PM

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Baker rolls for us.... I guess we lived way back until about 1904... then my great grand daddy got some land in Buckingham Co VA.... Big farm, but his boys went away... thay JUST didnt have any interest in what he was TRYING to do. Most of them went back to NC,, some went to the city of Charlottesvile.. Others went out west. I think only two stayed with him, and it simply wasnt enough to keep the farm going...

But they did found the town of Cedintary. Almost ALL my people are either burred there or in Cherokee NC... My parents are STILL fighting over where I will lay when I pass...

f*ck em BOTH... I already have place next my mama and papa... THEY where SMART! LOL

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