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Wood burning thread. Who heats with wood?
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Nottingham 12 Unopened 5 AKA ©®™ User ID: 128479 10-23-2012 03:14 AM
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RE: Wood burning thread. Who heats with wood?
barbsat Wrote:Thomas James Haller Wrote:barbsat Wrote:Heating with wood for most of 32 years now with an old Rite Way stove that has seen 32 winters and is still going strong. I had two cords of seasoned oak delivered today for $310. That is equal in heat output to about 500 gallons of heating oil. Or at today's prices about $2,000 in oil.
http://www.offroaders.com/tech/firewood-BTU.htm
I've been dealing with wood heating since about 1983.
When I started I could split all the wood by myself, now I have a 27 ton log splitter.
In my mid 20's I could cut all my own with just an ax and a hand saw. I loved felling a big, dead oak tress and feeling the ground shake when it fell.
At 52 I buy cord wood from local families who depend on selling wood to make ends meet.
I broke my knee at the beginning of September, and I was lucky I got all my wood in, and the stove cleaned.
At 53 I buy a few cords, and supplement it with what I have to cut down around the property. I try and get all my wood done in the spring, so it has all summer to cure.
Natural disasters, major attack on the U.S., martial law, civil war, WWIII, foreign invasion/occupation, and then basic survival.
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Pope Barbie Imaculata Praise "Bob" User ID: 125918 10-23-2012 03:20 AM
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RE: Wood burning thread. Who heats with wood?
Thomas James Haller Wrote:barbsat Wrote:Thomas James Haller Wrote:I've been dealing with wood heating since about 1983.
When I started I could split all the wood by myself, now I have a 27 ton log splitter.
In my mid 20's I could cut all my own with just an ax and a hand saw. I loved felling a big, dead oak tress and feeling the ground shake when it fell.
At 52 I buy cord wood from local families who depend on selling wood to make ends meet.
I broke my knee at the beginning of September, and I was lucky I got all my wood in, and the stove cleaned.
At 53 I buy a few cords, and supplement it with what I have to cut down around the property. I try and get all my wood done in the spring, so it has all summer to cure.
I am so sorry about your knee. That must be awful. I thought my torn up cartilage was bad.
I don't have all that much wood on my property anymore. I am down to 11 acres and had to sell off the big timber to pay for the estate taxes. I hated doing it but it was better than losing it to the state.
Grand High Pope of the Discordian Church of the blessed Dobbs head.
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flintstone lop guest User ID: 125316 10-23-2012 03:32 AM
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RE: Wood burning thread. Who heats with wood?
hill hermit Wrote:flintstone Wrote:well if i may throw in a few bits of advise on wood and pellet stoves on this thread i would be glad to offer it. i spent 15 years as a fireplace contractor/distributor/installer. granted there are new things out that i probably do not know about since i don't keep as up to date on alternative heating as i used to.
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if you would like to heat with wood it can be easily done. while older wood stoves are available and some of them are very ornate, i would buy a newer second burn technology stove to heat with. the epa phase 2 stoves will be heat shielded on the sides and back keeping clearances to combustibles minimal and be way more efficient. the difference in heating with a 1970 fireking and a new quadrafire/century etc would be about 1-1/2 cords of wood. the newer stoves do not really even put out smoke and in many areas can be used on no burn days (of course they are gonna smoke when starting a fire). there are catalytic stoves on the market and my personal advice is stay away from them. a new caltalytic filter is gonna cost a couple hundred dollars at the least and they are finicky. finally don't fall for that blower that every dealer wants to sell you. it's gonna set you back a couple hundred bucks or more and a good cieling fan will do a lot more good. you can also put a return air grill in the cieling above your wood stove and use the fan on a central air setup to circulate the heat throughout the house. as far as fireplaces go....there are only a few models out there that are worth buying and they will cost you at least 3500 dollars. the ones that come to mind are made by regency and quadrafire but i am sure there are more. they are zero clearance units made to be framed in a wall and are just as efficent as a wood stove 60-80%. most of them have duct take offs on the top to go directly to your central air return. the class a chimney for these will cost you more as well since you will be running it from fireplace to 2' above ridgeline of roof instead of from cieling to 2' above ridgeline with stove. anyways, that is a brief rundown on wood
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I must wholeheartedly disagree.
The point of wood heat is the simplicity.
I know many people who have 55 gallon barrels, pressure tanks, hot water heaters, ect... converted into wood burners that work just fine. Are they as "efficient" as some factory built, college degree designed, $3500 model? Likely no, but they work. For the sums you mention a person could buy a welder, the raw steel and some fire brick, build themselves a sweet custom stove and still have money left over for a vacation.
2 cents, IMO and that jazz.
just for everyones knowledge if you didn't already know this the clearance to an unshielded homeade or even factory made stove is 36 inches. you will burn a lot of wood, and you will have a stove in the middle of your room. will it work? yep sure will. do i care if you buy a new stove? not one bit. older stoves just burn more wood and make more ash. they work just fine except for that clearance issue. and a firewall behind a stove is a layer of brick ventilated at the bottom and top with 1" of clearance between it and combustibles. anyways, u can heat with a campfire, it will work. i am just giving u some advise so that the campfire doesn't include ur house.
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 42015 10-28-2012 10:11 PM
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RE: Wood burning thread. Who heats with wood?
I often wondered how people deal with an earthquake is shaking your home when you have a blazing fire in the fireplace or wood stove that could come loose and start rolling around the living room floor.
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 75417 10-28-2012 10:21 PM
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RE: Wood burning thread. Who heats with wood?
Thomas James Haller Wrote:bonsaiguy Wrote:Hi ya Barbsat. We heat with wood. I've used a woodstove for my primary heat source for the last 30 years or so. I love it! Out side of a bit of work in the summer months, it's a pretty good way to go. I have a bit of a physical issue, cant carry too much weight, so I use smaller pieces, but other than that, wood is the way to go. Mostly oak, hickory, mulberry etc... Burn some pallaat wood too. I love the aroma! We put a kettle on top with a little scented oil. Slice up some potatoes, mushrooms, onion, a hamburger patty wrapped in foil, toss it on the coals, mmmmmm good!
The wood stove makes a wonderful slow cooker, and I always have a couple of tea pots on the stove.

I have a folding grate with a handle that I cook london Broil right in the stove on hot coals .
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Nottingham 12 Unopened 5 AKA ©®™ User ID: 128479 10-28-2012 10:27 PM
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RE: Wood burning thread. Who heats with wood?
LoP Guest Wrote:I have a folding grate with a handle that I cook london Broil right in the stove on hot coals .
Cook mine medium.
Natural disasters, major attack on the U.S., martial law, civil war, WWIII, foreign invasion/occupation, and then basic survival.
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Pope Barbie Imaculata Praise "Bob" User ID: 125918 10-28-2012 10:30 PM
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RE: Wood burning thread. Who heats with wood?
Thomas James Haller Wrote:LoP Guest Wrote:I have a folding grate with a handle that I cook london Broil right in the stove on hot coals .
Cook mine medium.
That would also work with a nice Rib Eye or NY Strip.
Grand High Pope of the Discordian Church of the blessed Dobbs head.
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Nottingham 12 Unopened 5 AKA ©®™ User ID: 128479 10-28-2012 10:33 PM
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RE: Wood burning thread. Who heats with wood?
barbsat Wrote:I am so sorry about your knee. That must be awful. I thought my torn up cartilage was bad.
I don't have all that much wood on my property anymore. I am down to 11 acres and had to sell off the big timber to pay for the estate taxes. I hated doing it but it was better than losing it to the state.
 Thanks.
When I broke my knee there was also a lot of other damage, especially above the knee. I think this is why I'm having a slower time getting the motion back in my knee, I'm around 59 degrees knee bend now.
I did drive today for the first time.
That's a shame you had to sell off your trees. Some of my neighbors have had to do the same.
Natural disasters, major attack on the U.S., martial law, civil war, WWIII, foreign invasion/occupation, and then basic survival.
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Pope Barbie Imaculata Praise "Bob" User ID: 125918 10-28-2012 10:43 PM
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RE: Wood burning thread. Who heats with wood?
Thomas James Haller Wrote:barbsat Wrote:I am so sorry about your knee. That must be awful. I thought my torn up cartilage was bad.
I don't have all that much wood on my property anymore. I am down to 11 acres and had to sell off the big timber to pay for the estate taxes. I hated doing it but it was better than losing it to the state.
Thanks.
When I broke my knee there was also a lot of other damage, especially above the knee. I think this is why I'm having a slower time getting the motion back in my knee, I'm around 59 degrees knee bend now.
I did drive today for the first time.
That's a shame you had to sell off your trees. Some of my neighbors have had to do the same.
I am glad you managed to drive again. Not being able to do so would make me nuts in a very short time.
The nature of the economy these days is such that no matter how much you cut back and reduce your lifestyle you still can't get ahead.
I thought when I quit smoking almost two years ago now that it would mean I could start getting ahead a little. No such luck. Inflation on everything else has chewed up all those savings.
Grand High Pope of the Discordian Church of the blessed Dobbs head.
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 125569 10-28-2012 10:47 PM
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RE: Wood burning thread. Who heats with wood?
Wood burning thread. Who heats with wood?
is this a metaphor for having sex to keep warm?
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 120462 10-28-2012 11:00 PM
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RE: Wood burning thread. Who heats with wood?
Ya, so my brother inlaw wants to save money on his heating bill.
He wants to buy 1,000 dolla of wood to save 4 hundred on heating bill.
So I ask, how do you save money by spending $1,000 on wood so you can save $400 on gas heat. Tell me where the savings are.
BTW, he spent 3,000 dolla on a fireplace insert for the already in place fireplace. $3000 + $1,000 = $4000 to save 400 dolla.
Is someone f*cking nutz.
Plenty of cash flow can be had if one were to buy a $200 chain saw and cut the free wood, pile it and burn it. Thats saving money.
This brother inlaw is fat and was recently sent home for farting up the work place stinking everyone out. He also sneezes and coughs on food and people. Not only is he a box of rox, he's brain dead.
So whats it going to be, pay more money to save a little money or just forget about it and pay whats ya always paid and save money.
PS: turning down the thermometer is fail. The furnace kicks on the same no matter what the temp is set for. You will use the same amount of fuel to heat either way when its friggin cold out.
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