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YOUR CHURCH - COME IN AND SAY A PRAYER..
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FreedomStands Registered User User ID: 14247 02-22-2011 04:22 AM
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LIFE SPEAKING lop guest User ID: 18491 02-22-2011 04:23 AM
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RE: YOUR CHURCH - COME IN AND SAY A PRAYER..
SHALL WE DANCE..
SHALL WE STIR THE MOONS DUST WITH ENERGY OF LUST...
LIGHTLY TOUCHING THE SKIN OF MY DEAR...
CARESSING THE NECK OF MY FAIR MAIDEN...
HER HAIR IS MAJESTIC...
LIKE THE HILLS....
ROLLING , THUNDEROUS RED BLOOM,,,,
HER SMELL IS A DOMINO AFFECT ......
LILLIES LILLAC, STRAWBERRIES AND CREAM...
SHE MUST BE THE MOST BEAUTIFUL WOMAN I KNOW...
OR IS SHE THE MOST BEAUTIFUL WOMAN I DONT KNOW...
I QUIVER IN THE MOMENT .....
THIRSTY FOR LOVE, DRAINED OF EMOTION....
GIVEN ONLY TO TEMPTATION NOR DO I VIGOR...
BUT COWER...
ONLY TO THIRST AGAIN AND AGAIN....
WHAT MAN DOESNT THIRST...
LILLIES, LILAC, STRAWBERRIES AND CREAM....
MY LOVE...
WHAT MAN MAN... MY LOVE ...
WHAT MAN....
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FreedomStands Registered User User ID: 14247 02-22-2011 04:24 AM
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RE: YOUR CHURCH - COME IN AND SAY A PRAYER..
SaltWaterTaffy Wrote:FreedomStands Wrote:SaltWaterTaffy Wrote:Whenever I hear a siren I think
"Lord please help that poor person."
And when I feel anxiety for myself or my family I think
"Lord please keep us safe and protected."
But mostly I just think "Thank You."
That's about the extent of it for me 
Pretty good! That is more than many people pray or think.
Are you married?
I'd like to add that the first one ... that's not just "when I hear sirens" but when I see something or read something ... I've been saying it a lot today because of Lybia.
Yes, I'm married.
Sorry for asking a personal question like that! I wanted to ask before I told you that I think you're really pretty!
EXPLAINING GOD THROUGH REASON
http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-Easy-Rel...a-Nutshell
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FreedomStands Registered User User ID: 14247 02-22-2011 04:24 AM
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RE: YOUR CHURCH - COME IN AND SAY A PRAYER..
LIFE SPEAKING Wrote:SHALL WE DANCE..
SHALL WE STIR THE MOONS DUST WITH ENERGY OF LUST...
LIGHTLY TOUCHING THE SKIN OF MY DEAR...
CARESSING THE NECK OF MY FAIR MAIDEN...
HER HAIR IS MAJESTIC...
LIKE THE HILLS....
ROLLING , THUNDEROUS RED BLOOM,,,,
HER SMELL IS A DOMINO AFFECT ......
LILLIES LILLAC, STRAWBERRIES AND CREAM...
SHE MUST BE THE MOST BEAUTIFUL WOMAN I KNOW...
OR IS SHE THE MOST BEAUTIFUL WOMAN I DONT KNOW...
I QUIVER IN THE MOMENT .....
THIRSTY FOR LOVE, DRAINED OF EMOTION....
GIVEN ONLY TO TEMPTATION NOR DO I VIGOR...
BUT COWER...
ONLY TO THIRST AGAIN AND AGAIN....
WHAT MAN DOESNT THIRST...
LILLIES, LILAC, STRAWBERRIES AND CREAM....
MY LOVE...
WHAT MAN MAN... MY LOVE ...
WHAT MAN....
You're getting really good at this!
EXPLAINING GOD THROUGH REASON
http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-Easy-Rel...a-Nutshell
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FreedomStands Registered User User ID: 14247 02-22-2011 04:26 AM
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RE: YOUR CHURCH - COME IN AND SAY A PRAYER..
TX PATRIOT Wrote:LIFE SPEAKING Wrote:GOD CALLED AND SAID STOP SAYING THAT...
KINDA SELLS HIM SHORT IN HIS OVERALL EFORT ...
That.made.me.REALLY.LOL...<<my sides hurt>>
So can you tell me about my teachings?
Did the Lord of Chaos, Master of all Diseases, stuff bother you? Why would anyone want diseases and the bad things in this world out of God's control?
EXPLAINING GOD THROUGH REASON
http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-Easy-Rel...a-Nutshell
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FreedomStands Registered User User ID: 14247 02-22-2011 04:28 AM
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RE: YOUR CHURCH - COME IN AND SAY A PRAYER..
LIFE SPEAKING Wrote:WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO GO OUT WITH YOU AFTER THE FRUM-UNDER CHEESY STUFFF YOU JUST WROTE...
KEEPER OF ALL EVIL, GOD OF DISEASE...
MAN,,,,
IF YOU WANNA DATE....
YOUR GONNA HAVE TO LAY OFF THE DISEASE STUFF ATLEAST...
GOD OF ALL DISEASES...
GOD CALLED AND SAID STOP SAYING THAT...
KINDA SELLS HIM SHORT IN HIS OVERALL EFORT ...
JACKSASS..............
PS. ARE YOU MARRIED...
What was wrong with the stuff I wrote? You didn't like the disease stuff? Why? What is the problem? How is saying God controls absolutely everything and is ultimate in power entirely selling God short of the overall effort?
EXPLAINING GOD THROUGH REASON
http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-Easy-Rel...a-Nutshell
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FreedomStands Registered User User ID: 14247 02-22-2011 04:33 AM
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RE: YOUR CHURCH - COME IN AND SAY A PRAYER..
Who created diseases and supports their existence in reality? Who decides who becomes diseased and who gets healed? Who created destructive things and operates them ultimately? Who brings the storms and selects who they specifically affect and how?
I say God alone does all these things, God alone has all the power over all these things, and no one else controls the operation or animation of such things, and everything is the creation of God, even the thoughts we think originally had to be created by God, supported in existence by God, and their operation and activity animated by God.
Will you say there is another power besides God who controls the the powers which you don't want to associate with God? Then why wouldn't the favor of the destructive God be sought out as well?
But God is one alone, controlling all misfortune and harm, and all goodness and blessings.
EXPLAINING GOD THROUGH REASON
http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-Easy-Rel...a-Nutshell
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SaltWaterTaffy lop guest User ID: 14515 02-22-2011 04:38 AM
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RE: YOUR CHURCH - COME IN AND SAY A PRAYER..
FreedomStands Wrote:SaltWaterTaffy Wrote:FreedomStands Wrote:Pretty good! That is more than many people pray or think.
Are you married?
I'd like to add that the first one ... that's not just "when I hear sirens" but when I see something or read something ... I've been saying it a lot today because of Lybia.
Yes, I'm married.
Sorry for asking a personal question like that! I wanted to ask before I told you that I think you're really pretty!
It's ok, and thanks
Maybe the most beautiful prayer:
Prayer of Saint Francis of Assisi
Lord, make me an instrument of your peace.
Where there is hatred, let me sow love;
where there is injury,pardon;
where there is doubt, faith;
where there is despair, hope;
where there is darkness, light;
and where there is sadness, joy.
O Divine Master, grant that I may not so much seek
to be consoled as to console;
to be understood as to understand;
to be loved as to love.
For it is in giving that we receive;
it is in pardoning that we are pardoned;
and it is in dying that we are born to eternal life.
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LIFE SPEAKS lop guest User ID: 18491 02-22-2011 04:43 AM
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RE: YOUR CHURCH - COME IN AND SAY A PRAYER..
GOOD WRITING, I LIKED IT...
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK....
YOUR THE GIVER OF THE LITERAL SENSE OF ALL....
MARCH ON....
BUT LETS ALL REMEMBER TO WEAR A CONDOM...
CAUSE GOD AND THE GIVER OF GONERHIA...
YOU GOT TO GO DOWN ON MAIN AND GET THAT....
JACKSASS....
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LIFE SPEAKING lop guest User ID: 18491 02-22-2011 04:46 AM
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RE: YOUR CHURCH - COME IN AND SAY A PRAYER..
SORRY, MY TIMING WAS POOR...
DIDNT MEAN TO DISGRACE THE BEAUTIFUL PRAYER..
I WAS BANTERING WITH FREEDOM...
MY APOLOGIES....
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TX PATRIOT Registered User User ID: 14365 02-22-2011 05:02 AM
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RE: YOUR CHURCH - COME IN AND SAY A PRAYER..
FreedomStands Wrote:TX PATRIOT Wrote:FreedomS, allow me to preface this post by saying that I really like you, and I really do not mean disrespect.
But, I must inquire: if you step outside of your emotion-driven paradigm for just one brief second and take a view from a position of logic, does the above even sound sane to you?
Based on your 'teachings', are you really worshiping the "Lord of chaos," "the master of destruction" and the "bringer of pain"?
(I know I will live to regret this inquiry. )
Wow! Thank you for asking such a nice, thoughtful question!
I don't mean to sound like I'm making anything difficult but, what teachings are we talking about?
I understand that second prayer was radical sounding, but I wanted both prayers to kind of make some points that I thought were important for people to understand.
The main reason was probably to show that in monotheism there shouldn't be dualism, with two opposing forces, good vs evil in perpetual battle.
I wanted to show the idea (which is confirmed by all religious scriptures in their earliest forms, especially the vedas, the ancient world religions such as Egyptian and Akkadian religion, the scriptures of the Bible such as Isaiah, and the Qur'an, as well as ancient Chinese religion practiced in Early Han China) that an all powerful God holds all the power of fortune and misfortune. Later, developments occurred which personified misfortune as demons, and then as the act of demons in many religions while only goodness was reserved for God. I think this is a dangerous belief, and really just starts a whole line of confusion and a polytheism of numerous warring powers.
To simplify things, I think it is best to say God controls everything absolutely and has complete power. God has all the power to execute whatever God wants without question, and can define things in any way also. So the idea of good and evil become kind of contrary in a moral sense, since God can be considered entirely evil from our current perspective but still have all the power to bring us good or harm, so the only option would be to try to ask for the good and avoid the harm.
It doesn't matter to me if it isn't really true that God has all the power or not. I think it is the most beneficial belief and brings most personal peace to realize or think that there is an all powerful sustainer maintaining, controlling, and animating reality alone. It simplifies spiritual appeals to one source, it denies the powers of demons and other such things over our fortune, and also takes away the pressure of feeling like we are ultimately responsible for the functions of the universe that seem clearly out of our control.
The other options are:
Thinking we are in control of all things with our mind. Here, great stress comes upon us for worrying about what we think, our "negative" thoughts having "negative" influence on the world, and even worrying about things that we didn't think or some beliefs we didn't even really have but blaming ourselves for everything.
Thinking we ourselves and others are all in control "co-creating" which creates the problem of other people's thoughts causing problems. This makes it a great concern that other people are thinking negative things, and causes a partial loss of control that creates great stress as well. The only version in which this is best is in a literal sense of actually working together but still knowing that if anything doesn't happen it is because of God ultimately.
Thinking there is a system of absolute "karma" and feeling that we can't escape the automatic "punishments" or recompense. Included is also the idea that there is "reincarnation" where our past as someone else is to be blamed for the misfortune happening to us.
Thinking that God is just neutral or doesn't interfere and the forces of evil are left to do whatever they want, and we have to actually work to combat them or convince them not to be evil. In that case the forces of evil should to be appeased since they seem to have the real power.
I mean none of the other options seem as good to me as believing that God alone holds all power and authority over all things. That God alone brings all harm and fortune. To seek the fortune and avoid the harm. That if the harm happens not to really think it is punishment but rather know that there is at least the option of asking God for relief, rather than thinking an uncontrollable demon is inflicting it. Basically it makes a person realize their state of utter surrender to reality, that things are not really in our control at all, that even our prayers might not be answered (though I really think they seem to be for many people), but that what happens in the world or what bad things aren't really in our control and all these things are from God ultimately for whatever reason.
I mean it doesn't matter to me if it is true or not, because I don't believe there is any way of knowing what is and what isn't with certainty. I do believe that it is the most beneficial and least risky belief system.
The belief system of not believing in an ultimate and all powerful God is riskier than believing in one. The belief system of believing in numerous powers is complicated and riskier seeming than believing in just one ultimate all powerful all encompassing sustainer and animator of reality.
What are the risks? Well by believing in one ultimate God, the most religious systems are fulfilled, leading to the most potential benefit according to the most systems. If none of this is true, and we die forever, then all we did was live doing good things hoping for the best from God. But if the promises of many religions are true, then our belief and devotion to God will benefit us later too, while atheism would lead us to a life with an incomplete seeming explanation and a possible afterlife with dire consequences from the perspectives of many potentially true religions.
No, no.....I must thank you for such an eloquent and well-written explanation of your beliefs and intent. Admittedly, I did not expect such a rational response to what struck my soul as an irrational prayer.
And while I do not personally agree with all you have presented, there are definite points worthy of thought. Thanks, FS.
Please, Jesus, protect me from your followers. Amen.
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FreedomStands Registered User User ID: 14247 02-22-2011 05:05 AM
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RE: YOUR CHURCH - COME IN AND SAY A PRAYER..
LIFE SPEAKING Wrote:SORRY, MY TIMING WAS POOR...
DIDNT MEAN TO DISGRACE THE BEAUTIFUL PRAYER..
I WAS BANTERING WITH FREEDOM...
MY APOLOGIES....
I know that on the basic level it seems like people give and get diseases from each other. But on the ultimate level I believe God both created and designed the possibility for those diseases and even selects who experiences them. That nothing at all can happen if God doesn't make it happen.
EXPLAINING GOD THROUGH REASON
http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-Easy-Rel...a-Nutshell
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ashesandsackcloth Registered User User ID: 14769 02-22-2011 05:12 AM
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RE: YOUR CHURCH - COME IN AND SAY A PRAYER..
Magnus74 Wrote:ashesandsackcloth Wrote:Like most churches the place is evil and smells bad.
But with a few good people in the mix
Yes Magnus 74. Lots of people that we love. But our rightiousness is as filthy rags to GOD. Only thru the shed Blood of Jesus do we have a prayer.
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LIFE SPEAKING Registered User User ID: 18491 02-22-2011 05:26 AM
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RE: YOUR CHURCH - COME IN AND SAY A PRAYER..
some things are just meant to be on a basic level....
you pour so much into those info praymercials im lost...
do you worship god....
or satan or satin....
or do they worship you....
that one guys brownnosin u if you didnt notice...
did u whip his ass before...
or was he born with a brown nose....
hahahaha...
im cool with satan...
he aint my bud or nothin,,,,
but i like that shoutin rock shit...
the bang ditty bang da babg da bag ditty ,,
some kinda shit like that,,,
i bet they get horse signing like that....
thats some freaky shit there....
argggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg...
first verse...
grannnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggggggggggggg
second verse....
wow.....
and it sold....
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FreedomStands Registered User User ID: 14247 02-22-2011 06:20 AM
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RE: YOUR CHURCH - COME IN AND SAY A PRAYER..
TX PATRIOT Wrote:No, no.....I must thank you for such an eloquent and well-written explanation of your beliefs and intent. Admittedly, I did not expect such a rational response to what struck my soul as an irrational prayer.
And while I do not personally agree with all you have presented, there are definite points worthy of thought. Thanks, FS.
Thank you so much! You are so kind! Your response really made me feel great! I really appreciate it! It has made me so happy! It made my day! Thank you!
Yeah, I understand how calling God those things might seem like an insult, blasphemy, or extremely controversial, but I actually think they aren't really that, and the greater blasphemy from a strictly monotheistic stance at least would be to say that God doesn't control everything, or that God doesn't have all the power, or that God only controls our fortune while some other force controls our harm.
Thank you so much for reading what I wrote! I'm so happy that you're willing to give it some consideration and thought at least.
I apologize deeply if I've ever said anything insulting towards God, that is never my intention really, but I did want to make those radical statements to make a point since too many people believe in dualistic ideas that I don't feel really benefit them or do justice to God or reality. Rather they seem to empower concepts that oppose God (which is impossible in the system I'm presenting). Many people consider Satan some kind of Lord of Chaos and evil, when I consider him just a powerless liar, who has no power over our harm or benefit, but just tells us different lies, especially the old lie which is still present in the world which is that we are Gods or can be Gods, when in truth that brings great pressure on a person and also doesn't seem true and is especially disturbing when we find that we don't actually have control over things or anything at all in many senses.
So I'd never say there is any other power other than God alone, even if it isn't really true even, because I don't even feel it can be known with total certainty but only believed at most.
EXPLAINING GOD THROUGH REASON
http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-Easy-Rel...a-Nutshell
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