Government = Corporate puppet.
One in the Trinity of total silent secret societal slavery.
Government,is a wholly suicidal and loathsome unchanging tyrannical God approving or disproving items, choices,thoughts and products to the enslaved.
Corporations are the concentration camps of thought and labor.
They produce the desired results and if failure o well will just make another one up change the name and color a lil and try again.
Money is the fuel,lubricant,and coolant of this totalitarian machinery.
Until you accept the truth of there slavers marks you will have no life.
The ONE thing you have been PROGRAMMED to not even fathom a life without it.
Through these printed scripted lies your very soul is owned.
Programmed to believe the lies,that all revolves around these printed deceit marks.Alowing others of your very own make (Species)to justify the death and destruction of those not willing to be enslaved or just not useful to our slave masters desires.
All the while giving your real power to your slave masters.
Men have created the means to enslave all.
All done through lies believed as truth.
Just like all Government which is in fact and effect wholly UNNATURAL!
We do NOT NEED any government what so ever for a society/peoples based on honesty.
EVERY SINGLE INSTITUTION OF MAN THAT SITS OR SEEKS CONTROL OVER ANOTHER HUMAN IS IN ERROR!
The indigenous to the Americas did far better w/o a centralized bully err government than those with.
If not for the measles I would be speaking Navajo and loving my neighbor right now.
WAR ?? What for? everything we ALL need is RIGHT HERE under our very feet.
Being forced by threat of death to take there lies,from cradle to grave.
I blame you not.
LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 99107 06-23-2012 01:27 AM
As if the greedy bastards haven't made enough mulah off the first sale of things. We should all go on strike and stop buying anything more. Just keep what we have and when its unusable, throw it away. That's what they'll do with all the stuff they won't let us resell to someone who can't afford a new one.
This is the disease of money. What happened to just making your idea a reality so as many as possible could benefit from it, rather than how much money me-myself-I can make off an idea? This shift in purpose has opened wide the door for the "anything for money" attitude that silences people's consciences and motivates them to sell us poison while declaring it's good for us.
LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 66760 06-23-2012 01:47 AM
CRAZY!!!!!! People will still sell THEIR property. what are going to have? A used electronic administration like the DEA trying to find people who sell their used stuff? We already have a useless war on drugs, people would go underground with it. Actually, I don't think people would buy anything new in the first place. Way to help the economy.
What about returning it to the store if you don't like it? Would you have to get their permission to do that too?
long rant caution
i don't have much time this week to post replys to post like i enjoy doing(work stuff), but i wanted to say this.
i don't think most of you understand what this is really about but mother mary said something that you all need to think about right now.
"What about returning it to the store if you don't like it? Would you have to get their permission to do that too?"
think very hard about this statement, then think about this,
copyrights and trademarks on food, manufacturing, process, etc., as well as the way it gets from point a to point b to consumer.
what makes you think stores as you know them will be around in 10 or 20 years to return a product that you would have to get permission in the first place.
what if as a manufacturer you could get a guarantee for x number of units sold. what if as a store you get a guarantee of permanent display space, etc. etc., and the only thing you have to do is manufacture or supply exclusively for an entity willing to pay what you ask.
what if that entity was the government, and the manufacturing space was free, or the web store or even physical store was rent free, or with tax breaks, or guarantees that would outmatch any other offer you might get.
would you take that deal. well, as most assholes in corporate america are only out to make a buck, screw everyone in the process, the answer would be yes from corporate, and then deal with the fallout of the structure of the business later.
oil, telephones, banks, cable, delivery, fast food, and many many more, go back 50 years, come back to the present, and then figure out the difference between actual distinct owners and operators of business, and see how so many became so few over the years, and how it is still shrinking today.
then for an example take a few such as banks, phone service, stores such as walmart.
for example because of some dumbass at corporate said so, your weekly pay is either mandated as direct deposit or debit card.
because some dumbass at corporate said so, you can only pay your power or water bills online for your area because it saves money to shut your local physical billing office.
your local walmart now offers what you perceive as deals for purchases online only, not matching what you may find in a physical store, but since you frequent that location often, your receipt now contains a number code to save an additional 2% of online purchase.
smart meters
phone bill
water bill
frozen pizza
pharmacy
copyright
internet
tax
fines
as per company policy, and the fact if you don't eat you will die, you must get paid through direct deposit and since you need to eat to live you can't afford to not work so you trudge ahead grumbling the whole time about not having a choice.
you go to work, pay your bills, and generally do what you think you have to be a good person and live a good quiet life.
then it's mandated you have to pay bills online for whatever reason. you hate the idea but go ahead and buy a smartphone because that's what everyone else is doing and thee apps make it easy.
i can write a 50 page post to continue this but i'll try to make it short . . .
because of the mandates that have now co me to the point of massive online buying of goods and services, and electronic everything including
electronic money
electronic id
electronic records
so on and so on
you buy some frozen pizza containing extra cheese from walmart with debit card, but that violates gov mandated restrictions through insurance of which your doctor has told you in order to be covered you have to lose 20 more pounds to "fit" into your predesignated weight and obesity category, thereby resulting in denial of service for violations. said fines for violations are automatically deducted from your gov cares bank account, leaving you short this month for the automatic deduction of power bill because of the extended usage tax because this month you treated yourself to an extra two minutes of light before turning off the switch at 8:58 instead of 9 as stated for this weeks green carbon footprint awareness campaign .
judges are overworked these days, most fines such as these can be contested, and by understanding that you are innocent until proven guilty, but by using mandated debit cards, it falls on you to prove that fact to help the overworked judges, but being part of the gov cares program, for small fees we can facilitate that process.
thousands of scenarios you can come up with like this, some could happen, some are happening, some are too far fetched, some can't be believed.
but what do they all have in common.
copyright
trademark
product
theft
fines
taxes
laws
if you said yes to any of the above, then you are dead wrong.
what they all have in common, is the fact that they tell you up front before any of it happens. they aren't even trying to hide things anymore.
you go to the doctor you have to sign the paper for the privacy info act and other similar things. you buy a cell phone you sign a contract. you register as democrat or republican, you sign a paper telling you what to expect. you get cable or internet through a specific provider, you sign for it. you get s speeding ticket you sign it. you but a gun you sign a contract. you step into a walmart you are under a contract with a private entity. you get water service you sign a contract. you install photoshop or use facebook, you are under contract. you hand over a dollar bill for goods or services, or use a debit card, you are under contract. you use dye#50068 in your product you are under contract.
the copyrights or trademarks do not matter, do not f*cking mean shit. it's the contracts that are made that determines the use of the concept of the copyright. want proof. look at the exceptions to the rule.
sell your used ipad on ebay incur the wrath of the gods. violated about fifteen billion copyright laws and now owe so much money your great grand kids will be in debt forever. unless you bought 50 user office product activation codes and then qualify for immunity if an office worker never uses them so they get sold to another dept of firm as part of a business restructuring deal. wtf, how is this example even relevant to anything.
the answer is very simple. every product you buy, use, consume, read, see, wear, or whatever, comes with two, or even more sets of contracts.
a standard contract for the average consumer, and another contract for those who may have a bit more money that the average person(wealthy bastards), but may require a product or service that the average person uses.
as i type this, there are companies in existence, and even more being formed at an alarming levels, that help people who have money use goods and services. do you think congressmen use the same service or buy from the same kiosk at the mall you do when it comes to cell phones. doctors, lawyers, judges, bankers, and now even some law enforcement places, and even some military. heads of state, heads of business, industry. they use services designed to make things easier for todays professional to give them that extra edge over the competition.
think of anything from water bills to speeding tickets and count the number of times you catch yourself saying "must be nice to have money and do things differently."
whats even worse, the next time you see some of the videos posted here showing the rebels in syria, or other abuses and crap especially in 3rd world countries, take a moment before you type out that rant of yours and look for something in those videos. how many soldiers, rebels, guys in caves, idiots shooting guns, how many have on a baseball cap. how many are wearing a nice red or blue or yellow shirt that looks like something from the gap. nikes, casio watches, raybans, good leather belts that hold up their old navy denim shorts.
you can go to mall and buy some of the same clothes you see the rebels, bad guys, good guys, 3rd world natives, are wearing and go out in the middle of the woods and shoot a video that looks like it came straight out of syria or somewhere similar. but whats this have to do with anything.
it's not copyright violation, but copyright enforcement per the agreement you signed or accepted the implications of.
the rebels wearing out of place clothes, the person selling the ipad on ebay, the well dressed owner of a well doing local store, the person selling out his business to gov, the local pimp, prostitute, sheriff, dentist, mom, dad, kid, icecream truck driver, delivery person, vet, dj, weather man, etc., etc,. etc.,
all have something in common.
the same contract that gets signed vs. the contracts that are allowed and the deals made for tptb. it's not about enforcing copyright, it's about keeping the wealthy different from just the average consumer, which in turn allows for even more contracts and deals to be made to further weed out the less than wanted of the rich and famous, and lets power be divided up among a select few instead of ever increasing wealthy leeches.
it's not about copyright enforcement, it's about well managed and brokered deals. if you can only buy what we say, do what we tell you, see or hear what we allow, it makes things easier to manage when it comes to the unwanted we have among our own wealthy ranks. when romney or obama gives a speech, they are not talking to you the average person. they are speaking to us, jumping through hoops for us held by us. corporate domination isn't something about controlling the market. it's about controlling the idea's behind the need of us to begin with. we don't need millions of new consumers to our products everyday. we need a few good assholes to make sure you as the consumer think you have no choice but to
do things the way you were born into doing them. the very second you as a average person realize that if you say no collectively all at once, wether through protest, boycot, or similar means, that we will just crush you with our military or laws anyway, that is when you realize the only way the problem can be taken care of is to get rid of us permanently. we don't want that. because any whack job with a gun can shoot us at any moment, and that would be bad. but if everybody figures out we would kill you first without much fore thought, there is no amount of money that would protect us from everyone. billions vs just a few thousand. not good odds and our trip would be over very quickly.
Mr Gormsby Registered User User ID: 93439 06-23-2012 02:03 AM
Posts: 7,193
If you have any of these corporate products, get some people who have similiar and go dump the unwanted crap on the steps of the coroporate head quarters. You are just returning what you "borrowed"
Mr. Gormsby: Of course I wasn't going to roger you, this isn't a Catholic school
LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 68357 06-23-2012 02:06 AM
Let's just do this the easy way...DON'T buy the products these companies sell, until they stop this "illegal reselling of their products" crap.
Buy their competitor's products instead, and send them a letter telling them exactly why you didn't buy their miserable product in the first place.
Once the $$$ stops flowing in and these companies start feeling the pinch, maybe they'll stop messing with the American citizens' right to buy and sell legally purchased products as they choose.
or we could just dump every used computer, toy, ipod, appliance, refrigerator, oven, toilet, and etc. on the front lawns of their CEOs.
since "they" own it . . . .
LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 104025 06-23-2012 02:23 AM
If you have any of these corporate products, get some people who have similiar and go dump the unwanted crap on the steps of the coroporate head quarters. You are just returning what you "borrowed"
yeah . . . you think like me.
their lawns can be our landfills.
nrg Registered User User ID: 84469 06-23-2012 02:59 AM
Posts: 1,553
It is O.K. to ban the sale of toys, as long as the banks can still package all the homes they bought at pennies on the dollar and package them for sale to Germany and China, than our country is still cool.
Oh and America is going to be fine, the blank check was written to advance missile delivery systems. Screw you world !!We remain your Red white and blue daddy, even if you own stock.
"People are a circuit of water-this water washes all knowledge and recollection away."
Ikaika User ID: 104028 06-23-2012 03:09 AM
Posts: 15,787
No where to run, no where to hide. This crap is happening everywhere.
Dr. ProfessorWrote:
Mother MaryWrote:
I signed it about an hour ago.
CRAZY!!!!!! People will still sell THEIR property. what are going to have? A used electronic administration like the DEA trying to find people who sell their used stuff? We already have a useless war on drugs, people would go underground with it. Actually, I don't think people would buy anything new in the first place. Way to help the economy.
What about returning it to the store if you don't like it? Would you have to get their permission to do that too?
I swear if I had the money I'd leave the US. Each law seems to be dumber than the previous.
Mr Gormsby Registered User User ID: 93439 06-23-2012 03:20 AM
Posts: 7,193
If you have any of these corporate products, get some people who have similiar and go dump the unwanted crap on the steps of the coroporate head quarters. You are just returning what you "borrowed"
yeah . . . you think like me.
their lawns can be our landfills.
Mr. Gormsby: Of course I wasn't going to roger you, this isn't a Catholic school
LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 102123 06-23-2012 03:45 AM
I signed after getting an email earlier today. Corporations are really out of control.
TOTALLY out of control.
If this becomes law, I'd suggest anything you're done with, instead of trying to re-sell it, pack it right full of the nastiest stinkiest most vile poo you can find and ship it back to the greedy bastards that think THEY own it... with a note: "Here's your SHIT back a-holes... LITERALLY!"
...Great Idea!
not really. they'll find a way to make a buck on it if they have to put in salisbury steaks as a new fda approved flavor enhancer or use it to genetically modify turnips. you'll end up paying for your own crap.
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