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***breaking*** .... this senators report from fukishima is not good, i pray people..
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a student of Protean
thought lop guest User ID: 87701 04-17-2012 09:05 PM
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RE: ***breaking*** .... this senators report from fukishima is not good, i pray people..
Why hasn't the "World's Governments" come together the 12th of March 2011 to adress this catastrophe can be argued in moot court for decades.
Today we have a clear and present danger of unimaginal proportions.
I share with you today the following:
Caveat Lector
Former Japanese Ambassador Akio Matsumura
http://akiomatsumura.com/
I asked top spent-fuel pools expert Mr. Robert Alvarez, former Senior Policy Adviser to the Secretary and Deputy Assistant Secretary for National Security and the Environment at the U.S. Department of Energy, for an explanation of the potential impact of the 11,421 rods.
I received an astounding response from Mr. Alvarez [updated 4/5/12]:
In recent times, more information about the spent fuel situation at the Fukushima-Dai-Ichi site has become known. It is my understanding that of the 1,532 spent fuel assemblies in reactor No. 304 assemblies are fresh and unirradiated. This then leaves 1,231 irradiated spent fuel rods in pool No. 4, which contain roughly 37 million curies (~1.4E+18 Becquerel) of long-lived radioactivity. The No. 4 pool is about 100 feet above ground, is structurally damaged and is exposed to the open elements. If an earthquake or other event were to cause this pool to drain this could result in a catastrophic radiological fire involving nearly 10 times the amount of Cs-137 released by the Chernobyl accident.
The infrastructure to safely remove this material was destroyed as it was at the other three reactors. Spent reactor fuel cannot be simply lifted into the air by a crane as if it were routine cargo. In order to prevent severe radiation exposures, fires and possible explosions, it must be transferred at all times in water and heavily shielded structures into dry casks.. As this has never been done before, the removal of the spent fuel from the pools at the damaged Fukushima-Dai-Ichi reactors will require a major and time-consuming re-construction effort and will be charting in unknown waters. Despite the enormous destruction cased at the Da–Ichi site, dry casks holding a smaller amount of spent fuel appear to be unscathed.
Based on U.S. Energy Department data, assuming a total of 11,138 spent fuel assemblies are being stored at the Dai-Ichi site, nearly all, which is in pools. They contain roughly 336 million curies (~1.2 E+19 Bq) of long-lived radioactivity. About 134 million curies is Cesium-137 — roughly 85 times the amount of Cs-137 released at the Chernobyl accident as estimated by the U.S. National Council on Radiation Protection (NCRP). The total spent reactor fuel inventory at the Fukushima-Daichi site contains nearly half of the total amount of Cs-137 estimated by the NCRP to have been released by all atmospheric nuclear weapons testing, Chernobyl, and world-wide reprocessing plants (~270 million curies or ~9.9 E+18 Becquerel).
It is important for the public to understand that reactors that have been operating for decades, such as those at the Fukushima-Dai-Ichi site have generated some of the largest concentrations of radioactivity on the planet.
http://akiomatsumura.com/2012/04/682.html
A call out to those of us who have viable answers to a crisis not only in Japan but clearly described in the link below.
Evacuation Zones for Nuclear Reactors
In the case of a nuclear reactor accident, what can be done?
Do you live within 50 miles of a nuclear reactor? One third of Americans do. Property contaminated by nuclear materials is not covered by insurance, so if your house is affected, you could be displaced permanently and lose everything. Use the tool below to find out if you are within an evacuation zone and are at risk. Also notice the number of people who would have to be evacuated if there was an accident at the plant closest to you. Do you really think that is possible? We don't.
The 25th anniversary of Chernobyl and the continuing crisis at Fukushima -- both Level 7 nuclear disasters -- are clear reminders that standard evacuation zones cannot protect the public from a nuclear accident. Current NRC regulations stipulate a 10 mile evacuation zone around nuclear plants. This is clearly insufficient and 50 miles has been recommended.
http://www.psr.org/resources/evacuation-...ctors.html
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Pingulala lop guest User ID: 90868 04-17-2012 09:16 PM
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RE: ***breaking*** .... this senators report from fukishima is not good, i pray people..
I think it best we not read any of this because its not going to help me go to work and pay the bills...Is this for real are we now all about to die of Plutonium poisoning within the next 2-5 years..If not lets get on with the perceived doom of Alienage or the Nibirus..Or Earthquake Sunami Sun Doom...This Fuku doom is just a terrible way to die all boily and bumpy feeling sicky cancered up an shit
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Aquarius Registered User User ID: 9383 04-17-2012 09:31 PM
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RE: ***breaking*** .... this senators report from fukishima is not good, i pray people..
thecanadianactivist Wrote:here we go ..... difinitive research site..... looks like alot of info here.............
http://hps.org/fukushima/ 
Bookmarked to check out later today ...
"Detest what is evil, cling to what is good." Romans 12:2
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Rager lop guest User ID: 89580 04-17-2012 09:42 PM
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RE: ***breaking*** .... this senators report from fukishima is not good, i pray people..
If you guys want good information just look through the big fukushima thread from last year.
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Astrochik seeking the truth - good or bad User ID: 55237 04-17-2012 09:54 PM
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a student of Protean
thought lop guest User ID: 87701 04-17-2012 09:57 PM
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RE: ***breaking*** .... this senators report from fukishima is not good, i pray people..
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great-grandfather eye of the storm User ID: 90811 04-17-2012 10:18 PM
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RE: ***breaking*** .... this senators report from fukishima is not good, i pray people..
a student of Protean
thought Wrote:Why hasn't the "World's Governments" come together the 12th of March 2011 to adress this catastrophe can be argued in moot court for decades.
Today we have a clear and present danger of unimaginal proportions.
I share with you today the following:
Caveat Lector
Former Japanese Ambassador Akio Matsumura
http://akiomatsumura.com/
I asked top spent-fuel pools expert Mr. Robert Alvarez, former Senior Policy Adviser to the Secretary and Deputy Assistant Secretary for National Security and the Environment at the U.S. Department of Energy, for an explanation of the potential impact of the 11,421 rods.
I received an astounding response from Mr. Alvarez [updated 4/5/12]:
In recent times, more information about the spent fuel situation at the Fukushima-Dai-Ichi site has become known. It is my understanding that of the 1,532 spent fuel assemblies in reactor No. 304 assemblies are fresh and unirradiated. This then leaves 1,231 irradiated spent fuel rods in pool No. 4, which contain roughly 37 million curies (~1.4E+18 Becquerel) of long-lived radioactivity. The No. 4 pool is about 100 feet above ground, is structurally damaged and is exposed to the open elements. If an earthquake or other event were to cause this pool to drain this could result in a catastrophic radiological fire involving nearly 10 times the amount of Cs-137 released by the Chernobyl accident.
The infrastructure to safely remove this material was destroyed as it was at the other three reactors. Spent reactor fuel cannot be simply lifted into the air by a crane as if it were routine cargo. In order to prevent severe radiation exposures, fires and possible explosions, it must be transferred at all times in water and heavily shielded structures into dry casks.. As this has never been done before, the removal of the spent fuel from the pools at the damaged Fukushima-Dai-Ichi reactors will require a major and time-consuming re-construction effort and will be charting in unknown waters. Despite the enormous destruction cased at the Da–Ichi site, dry casks holding a smaller amount of spent fuel appear to be unscathed.
Based on U.S. Energy Department data, assuming a total of 11,138 spent fuel assemblies are being stored at the Dai-Ichi site, nearly all, which is in pools. They contain roughly 336 million curies (~1.2 E+19 Bq) of long-lived radioactivity. About 134 million curies is Cesium-137 — roughly 85 times the amount of Cs-137 released at the Chernobyl accident as estimated by the U.S. National Council on Radiation Protection (NCRP). The total spent reactor fuel inventory at the Fukushima-Daichi site contains nearly half of the total amount of Cs-137 estimated by the NCRP to have been released by all atmospheric nuclear weapons testing, Chernobyl, and world-wide reprocessing plants (~270 million curies or ~9.9 E+18 Becquerel).
It is important for the public to understand that reactors that have been operating for decades, such as those at the Fukushima-Dai-Ichi site have generated some of the largest concentrations of radioactivity on the planet.
http://akiomatsumura.com/2012/04/682.html
A call out to those of us who have viable answers to a crisis not only in Japan but clearly described in the link below.
Evacuation Zones for Nuclear Reactors
In the case of a nuclear reactor accident, what can be done?
Do you live within 50 miles of a nuclear reactor? One third of Americans do. Property contaminated by nuclear materials is not covered by insurance, so if your house is affected, you could be displaced permanently and lose everything. Use the tool below to find out if you are within an evacuation zone and are at risk. Also notice the number of people who would have to be evacuated if there was an accident at the plant closest to you. Do you really think that is possible? We don't.
The 25th anniversary of Chernobyl and the continuing crisis at Fukushima -- both Level 7 nuclear disasters -- are clear reminders that standard evacuation zones cannot protect the public from a nuclear accident. Current NRC regulations stipulate a 10 mile evacuation zone around nuclear plants. This is clearly insufficient and 50 miles has been recommended.
http://www.psr.org/resources/evacuation-...ctors.html
this is exactly what this thread is asking W H Y .... W H Y NOT !! .... there is obviously a known danger to humankind, why are the world governments not acting NOW !!?? we really dont know what to do and individually there really isnt anything we can do ... it is up to our governments to act and it looks like they are sitting on their hands
i wish i knew him, i wonder if i am like him, i wonder if i will ever know
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a student of Protean
thought lop guest User ID: 87701 04-17-2012 10:19 PM
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RE: ***breaking*** .... this senators report from fukishima is not good, i pray people..
Pingulala Wrote:I think it best we not read any of this because its not going to help me go to work and pay the bills...Is this for real are we now all about to die of Plutonium poisoning within the next 2-5 years..If not lets get on with the perceived doom of Alienage or the Nibirus..Or Earthquake Sunami Sun Doom...This Fuku doom is just a terrible way to die all boily and bumpy feeling sicky cancered up an shit
I chose not to hide.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHyKDrGzn-I
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a student of Protean
thought lop guest User ID: 87701 04-17-2012 10:40 PM
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RE: ***breaking*** .... this senators report from fukishima is not good, i pray people..
Quote:this is exactly what this thread is asking W H Y .... W H Y NOT !! .... there is obviously a known danger to humankind, why are the world governments not acting NOW !!?? we really dont know what to do and individually there really isnt anything we can do ... it is up to our governments to act and it looks like they are sitting on their hands
Maybe they, the governments of this world, have bigger fish to fry.
Maybe they, the governments of this world, have got theirs and are not concerned about how you will get yours.
As I have stated earlier, we could argue the whys until the cows come home.
There are inevitabilities we must reckon with or without them and we may be alone in our reckoning.
Are we prepared?
I trow not.
In this world there are choices we make that have consequences that must be reckoned.
That is absolute.
There are not many absolutes I have found but the above statement is one we can not escape from.
I am not a fatalist just objectively observing the mundane.
http://proteanstudios.blogspot.com/2011/...-here.html
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Astrochik seeking the truth - good or bad User ID: 55237 04-17-2012 10:41 PM
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a student of Protean
thought lop guest User ID: 87701 04-17-2012 11:06 PM
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RE: ***breaking*** .... this senators report from fukishima is not good, i pray people..
Astrochik Wrote:http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-Time-to-...to-act-NOW
Time to smell the coffee - things are going to get much worse, we need to act NOW
Astrochik you are one of the few who looks toward resolutions;
which I may add is rare.
Thanks always for your P.O.V.
A Big for resolve!!!
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a student of Protean
thought lop guest User ID: 87701 04-17-2012 11:09 PM
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RE: ***breaking*** .... this senators report from fukishima is not good, i pray people..
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a student of Protean
thought lop guest User ID: 87701 04-17-2012 11:25 PM
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RE: ***breaking*** .... this senators report from fukishima is not good, i pray people..
Sleep Bah Bah sleeep....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqlsVZ1zxMk
Harmlessly passing your time in the grassland away;
Only dimly aware of a certain unease in the air.
You better watch out,
There may be dogs about
I've looked over Jordan, and I have seen
Things are not what they seem.
What do you get for pretending the danger's not real.
Meek and obedient you follow the leader
Down well trodden corridors into the valley of steel.
What a surprise!
A look of terminal shock in your eyes.
Now things are really what they seem.
No, this is no bad dream.
The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want
He makes me down to lie
Through pastures green He leadeth me the silent waters by.
With bright knives He releaseth my soul.
He maketh me to hang on hooks in high places.
He converteth me to lamb cutlets,
For lo, He hath great power, and great hunger.
When cometh the day we lowly ones,
Through quiet reflection, and great dedication
Master the art of karate,
Lo, we shall rise up,
And then we'll make the bugger's eyes water.
Bleating and babbling I fell on his neck with a scream.
Wave upon wave of demented avengers
March cheerfully out of obscurity into the dream.
Have you heard the news?
The dogs are dead!
You better stay home
And do as you're told.
Get out of the road if you want to grow old
~ Roger Waters
"Sheep" is a song by the English band Pink Floyd. It was released on the album Animals in 1977. In 1974, it was originally titled "Raving and Drooling".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheep_(song)
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Luvapottamus Registered User User ID: 82349 04-17-2012 11:35 PM
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RE: ***breaking*** .... this senators report from fukishima is not good, i pray people..
a student of Protean
thought Wrote:Take what you will
spit out the rest.
Reality is an acquired taste.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwO3MDfUe...1CDukfc%3D
Robots didn't work for Chernobyl.
I think they've gotten some into Fukishima. That technology is father advanced now.
But valid point, most of the robots I've seen have pretty delicate electronics. Radiation shielding might not be adequate and seals and such may well not be durable enough.
There are other approaches to electronic robots, however. Hydro-pneumatic controls and fibre-optic imaging.
That would mean tethers/umbilicals which seem like an additional hazard, don't want to strand a bunch of equipment in there, if it gets tangled up.
But I think there are ways to fix this if the efforts are made.
There is no such thing as sovereign debt. End the FED, bring back Greenbacks.
Wall Street Sales Tax http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb5OQUElilo
United Front Against Austerity
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a student of Protean
thought lop guest User ID: 87701 04-17-2012 11:52 PM
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RE: ***breaking*** .... this senators report from fukishima is not good, i pray people..
Luvapottamus Wrote:a student of Protean
thought Wrote:Take what you will
spit out the rest.
Reality is an acquired taste.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwO3MDfUe...1CDukfc%3D
Robots didn't work for Chernobyl.
I think they've gotten some into Fukishima. That technology is father advanced now.
But valid point, most of the robots I've seen have pretty delicate electronics. Radiation shielding might not be adequate and seals and such may well not be durable enough.
There are other approaches to electronic robots, however. Hydro-pneumatic controls and fibre-optic imaging.
That would mean tethers/umbilicals which seem like an additional hazard, don't want to strand a bunch of equipment in there, if it gets tangled up.
But I think there are ways to fix this if the efforts are made.
If the M.I.C. (military industrial complex) is, as some have perportedly claimed, to be technologically advanced by decades; then this could have been taken care of in the dark of night with none to be the wiser of their intervention.
We have to ask the questions in a different construct.
We have to look at events in a different perspective.
What is evident.
Second, third and fourth hand knowledge is not evidence of what has happened and what is presently occurring.
The box is an illusion for our entertainment not for resolution to objectively come to a reasonable conclusion.
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