It is kind of like what we notice we make happen. If we don't notice something it doesn't happen for us.

Hmm we start running out of words quite quickly when we start to approach the top end of things.

Love is sympathetic resonance, when you strike a tuning fork next to another one that is the same frequency it starts to vibrate also even though it is not touching.
In this way all of the similar wavelengths of the hologram vibrate and transmit energy/information to each other no matter where they may be in physical time and space.[this is a bit incomplete]

Every vibration produces related harmonics that are related to the fundamental vibration they interact with each other and the first vibration causing other frequencies called beat notes.

If you have a guitar string vibrating next to another one also vibrating they create a third vibration made of the over lapping nature of the first two vibration this third vibration isn't real, it is produced by two "real" vibrations and the human ear can perceive it.

When you apply this same theory to the vibrations of reality you can see things get complicated very quickly. Every same vibration is "telling" the other same frequency vibrations what it is doing no matter where it is in time/space.

This could be the nature by which we are all joined in some small way to each other.

There is another theory that says thoughts create vibration.

We create thoughts and ideas from nothing.

The things of the world around us we have made for ourselves are created from someones ideas made physical, once they could convey their idea to someone else and they could understand it in becomes real for someone else.

Because of my consciousness I am able to perceive things both real and ideas.
It is like I believe them into life for me, and if I can get someone else to perceive my idea it become perceived/real for them also.

Bizarre illusions at play within consciousnesses?

If you start thinking too hard about some of these ideas you are dabbling with madness itself.
The self reality of you own mind VS the sum of possibilities available.
Possible some more brain power required.

I know I'm real, I think you are real, everything between.... maybe just mental illusions at play for demonstration purposes.

We create thoughts and ideas from nothing.

The Lucky AC  Wrote:

It is kind of like what we notice we make happen. If we don't notice something it doesn't happen for us.

Hmm we start running out of words quite quickly when we start to approach the top end of things.

Love is sympathetic resonance, when you strike a tuning fork next to another one that is the same frequency it starts to vibrate also even though it is not touching.
In this way all of the similar wavelengths of the hologram vibrate and transmit energy/information to each other no matter where they may be in physical time and space.[this is a bit incomplete]

Every vibration produces related harmonics that are related to the fundamental vibration they interact with each other and the first vibration causing other frequencies called beat notes.

If you have a guitar string vibrating next to another one also vibrating they create a third vibration made of the over lapping nature of the first two vibration this third vibration isn't real, it is produced by two "real" vibrations and the human ear can perceive it.

When you apply this same theory to the vibrations of reality you can see things get complicated very quickly. Every same vibration is "telling" the other same frequency vibrations what it is doing no matter where it is in time/space.

This could be the nature by which we are all joined in some small way to each other.

There is another theory that says thoughts create vibration.

We create thoughts and ideas from nothing.

The things of the world around us we have made for ourselves are created from someones ideas made physical, once they could convey their idea to someone else and they could understand it in becomes real for someone else.

Because of my consciousness I am able to perceive things both real and ideas.
It is like I believe them into life for me, and if I can get someone else to perceive my idea it become perceived/real for them also.

Bizarre illusions at play within consciousnesses?

If you start thinking too hard about some of these ideas you are dabbling with madness itself.
The self reality of you own mind VS the sum of possibilities available.
Possible some more brain power required.

I know I'm real, I think you are real, everything between.... maybe just mental illusions at play for demonstration purposes.

this is my lesson for the day... thank you for sharing

Do all emotions have a resonance?

Phooey  Wrote:

The Lucky AC  Wrote:

It is kind of like what we notice we make happen. If we don't notice something it doesn't happen for us.

Hmm we start running out of words quite quickly when we start to approach the top end of things.

Love is sympathetic resonance, when you strike a tuning fork next to another one that is the same frequency it starts to vibrate also even though it is not touching.
In this way all of the similar wavelengths of the hologram vibrate and transmit energy/information to each other no matter where they may be in physical time and space.[this is a bit incomplete]

Every vibration produces related harmonics that are related to the fundamental vibration they interact with each other and the first vibration causing other frequencies called beat notes.

If you have a guitar string vibrating next to another one also vibrating they create a third vibration made of the over lapping nature of the first two vibration this third vibration isn't real, it is produced by two "real" vibrations and the human ear can perceive it.

When you apply this same theory to the vibrations of reality you can see things get complicated very quickly. Every same vibration is "telling" the other same frequency vibrations what it is doing no matter where it is in time/space.

This could be the nature by which we are all joined in some small way to each other.

There is another theory that says thoughts create vibration.

We create thoughts and ideas from nothing.

The things of the world around us we have made for ourselves are created from someones ideas made physical, once they could convey their idea to someone else and they could understand it in becomes real for someone else.

Because of my consciousness I am able to perceive things both real and ideas.
It is like I believe them into life for me, and if I can get someone else to perceive my idea it become perceived/real for them also.

Bizarre illusions at play within consciousnesses?

If you start thinking too hard about some of these ideas you are dabbling with madness itself.
The self reality of you own mind VS the sum of possibilities available.
Possible some more brain power required.

I know I'm real, I think you are real, everything between.... maybe just mental illusions at play for demonstration purposes.

this is my lesson for the day... thank you for sharing

Do all emotions have a resonance?

Of course

The Lucky AC  Wrote:

Phooey  Wrote:

this is my lesson for the day... thank you for sharing

Do all emotions have a resonance?

Of course

How do you avoid vibrations from the negative emotions of others?

The Lucky AC  Wrote:

Phooey  Wrote:

this is my lesson for the day... thank you for sharing

Do all emotions have a resonance?

Of course

How do you avoid vibrations from the negative emotions of others?

Phooey  Wrote:

The Lucky AC  Wrote:

Of course

How do you avoid vibrations from the negative emotions of others?

Do not allow those vibrations to attenuate within you. Love is the universal solvent.

Can ideas really come from nothing? I tend to think of the formation of ideas as following the lines of evolution. Little things build bigger things, these things allow for little systems to form, and the little systems allow for bigger systems to form.

The idea of A or B or C is equal in power the idea of truck or baby doll, or marriage. You would think that A or B or C would be a tiny idea, but it is equal in symbol strength because of the things attached to it. A is for Alligator, wooden,toy blocks you play with in preschool often have letters of the alphabet on them, Grade A meat, Earning an A+ on a test, Masonic A symbol, Alpha and Omega, etc, etc.

But do all ideas have the same power or influence or baggage attached to them? Is the idea of a hole equal to the idea of a black hole? No. A hole has more material, more idea connections than a black hole. When we write black hole, we limit the term hole, when we write just the word hole, we open a doorway in our minds to all the ideas associated with holes, including black holes.

So we have proven that some ideas have more idea connections to other ideas than others. All ideas do not have the same influence or power. What are the smaller ideas, then? If we follow the strategy above, the smallest idea is actually the biggest one, the one that is most defined and so defined, so explained, so detailed, that very few ideas can be connected to it, or better stated, confused with it. It would be an idea that is self-contained, needing no associations, and having no natural associations come to bear upon it.

LoP Guest  Wrote:

Can ideas really come from nothing? I tend to think of the formation of ideas as following the lines of evolution. Little things build bigger things, these things allow for little systems to form, and the little systems allow for bigger systems to form.

The idea of A or B or C is equal in power the idea of truck or baby doll, or marriage. You would think that A or B or C would be a tiny idea, but it is equal in symbol strength because of the things attached to it. A is for Alligator, wooden,toy blocks you play with in preschool often have letters of the alphabet on them, Grade A meat, Earning an A+ on a test, Masonic A symbol, Alpha and Omega, etc, etc.

But do all ideas have the same power or influence or baggage attached to them? Is the idea of a hole equal to the idea of a black hole? No. A hole has more material, more idea connections than a black hole. When we write black hole, we limit the term hole, when we write just the word hole, we open a doorway in our minds to all the ideas associated with holes, including black holes.

So we have proven that some ideas have more idea connections to other ideas than others. All ideas do not have the same influence or power. What are the smaller ideas, then? If we follow the strategy above, the smallest idea is actually the biggest one, the one that is most defined and so defined, so explained, so detailed, that very few ideas can be connected to it, or better stated, confused with it. It would be an idea that is self-contained, needing no associations, and having no natural associations come to bear upon it.

I also have played with this same idea as yours many times and tried to put all the different angles on it.

We are good at seeing the differences between things even if we don't know what the first things is we perceive, we can perceive it is different from something else.
Sometimes it feels like we are endlessly observing things and noting their differences even if we don't know what they are.
We can find patterns in nearly anything, even conspiracies.

I have often found some of the ideas I first had were incorrect but they gave me an understanding of the next step or bigger idea. The mind is able to grasp the unreal/nonphysical.

Ideas are powerful and words are ideas in action on the physical in a way.
we don't always have the words available to convey the most "out there" ideas we have, but still we manage to communicate with each other anyway.

We have come a long way from Knowing Nothing, I think I still have a long way to go but it is enjoyable.

Do we really know anything?
I definitely know something, but how true is it.
We are curious by our nature, we want to know things.

I define knowledge and wisdom like this, Knowledge tells me the fire is hot but wisdom tells me not to out my hand in it.

I think we quest for knowledge but it is wisdom we are really looking for.

The Lucky AC  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

Can ideas really come from nothing? I tend to think of the formation of ideas as following the lines of evolution. Little things build bigger things, these things allow for little systems to form, and the little systems allow for bigger systems to form.

The idea of A or B or C is equal in power the idea of truck or baby doll, or marriage. You would think that A or B or C would be a tiny idea, but it is equal in symbol strength because of the things attached to it. A is for Alligator, wooden,toy blocks you play with in preschool often have letters of the alphabet on them, Grade A meat, Earning an A+ on a test, Masonic A symbol, Alpha and Omega, etc, etc.

But do all ideas have the same power or influence or baggage attached to them? Is the idea of a hole equal to the idea of a black hole? No. A hole has more material, more idea connections than a black hole. When we write black hole, we limit the term hole, when we write just the word hole, we open a doorway in our minds to all the ideas associated with holes, including black holes.

So we have proven that some ideas have more idea connections to other ideas than others. All ideas do not have the same influence or power. What are the smaller ideas, then? If we follow the strategy above, the smallest idea is actually the biggest one, the one that is most defined and so defined, so explained, so detailed, that very few ideas can be connected to it, or better stated, confused with it. It would be an idea that is self-contained, needing no associations, and having no natural associations come to bear upon it.

I also have played with this same idea as yours many times and tried to put all the different angles on it.

We are good at seeing the differences between things even if we don't know what the first things is we perceive, we can perceive it is different from something else.
Sometimes it feels like we are endlessly observing things and noting their differences even if we don't know what they are.
We can find patterns in nearly anything, even conspiracies.

I have often found some of the ideas I first had were incorrect but they gave me an understanding of the next step or bigger idea. The mind is able to grasp the unreal/nonphysical.

Ideas are powerful and words are ideas in action on the physical in a way.
we don't always have the words available to convey the most "out there" ideas we have, but still we manage to communicate with each other anyway.

We have come a long way from Knowing Nothing, I think I still have a long way to go but it is enjoyable.

Do we really know anything?
I definitely know something, but how true is it.
We are curious by our nature, we want to know things.

I define knowledge and wisdom like this, Knowledge tells me the fire is hot but wisdom tells me not to out my hand in it.

I think we quest for knowledge but it is wisdom we are really looking for.

Very true. Also, I'm glad you differentiated between the unreal and the unphysical. To call an idea unreal would be a fallacy, as ideas are very much a part of reality, but not of a physical reality, which you very well knew. Of course, we being minds inside of physical bodies, who have created our ideas from physicality itself, have a difficult task in defining at what crucial point an idea is separate from physical reality.

We physically see the letter a, and according to science, it is even represented as a picture on a layer of neurons in the back of the brain, as if it were an lcd screen. So the physicality of the letter a is still physical even upon perception in the brain. But somewhere, what the neurons tell each other about the shape they have felt upon that layer of visualizing neurons, is that the shape was an A, and the neurons that remember all the other associations with that shape come into play, yet somehow the brain has learned that sometimes the letter A is just an a in a sentence you are reading, and sometimes it is more important, as an A on a School's report card, or even a mystery, as the A of freemasonry. And even though the idea had a physical aspect, even in the secondary perception apparati of sight, the associations it incurs are also represented by physical neurons where memory is stored.

I suppose the mapping out of the neuronal patterns and 'if x then y' reactions also stored along with them are to be considered non physical and are simply biological imprinting or advanced biological self-programming, then that would have to be the cut off point, would it not?

Is the programming of a biological computer real? Is the programming of a non-biological computer more real or less real?

This came up in an acid trip I took a while back, I write things on paper and read them after to see if they still make sense or I can remember the sense they made at the time.

Everything must have a reference to be known. You can't comprehend what an apple is without other knowledge as a reference. trees, ground, etc

In the morning my piece of paper had on it, for X to exist and be known it must be referenced by Y, what references Y?
We are the thing that makes X's and Y's real.

We are a self programing machine/existence/entity.
In computer programing a self programing program has to have all of its possibilities and functions available to it to write the program as it is needed.

Somewhere within us is the master program, the keys if you like.
We are able to mentally adapt as required, even though we don't use all of our abilities the functions and rules of existence are contained within as our reference in programming ourselves and referencing ourselves within reality.

An idea.

Could a clever computer program have a consciousness equal to ours?
Why not. If it could perceive itself and know it existed why not?