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if we could see the center of our galaxy...
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 120348 09-12-2012 06:37 AM
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if we could see the center of our galaxy...
Would it look like a second sun? Can we see it? Or because of our rotation we never see it? or is it just too far away? Is it hidden behind our sun? Would the second coming of the christ conciousness be that we would see it as a second sun?
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 8757 09-12-2012 07:30 AM
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RE: if we could see the center of our galaxy...
LoP Guest Wrote:Would it look like a second sun? Can we see it? Or because of our rotation we never see it? or is it just too far away? Is it hidden behind our sun? Would the second coming of the christ conciousness be that we would see it as a second sun?
I'm pretty sure we can see it (REAL pretty sure, I'm trying NOT to insult you)...do a bit of research...others here are way too lazy to say this.
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247mph nli...lazy lop guest User ID: 8757 09-12-2012 07:31 AM
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RE: if we could see the center of our galaxy...
LoP Guest Wrote:LoP Guest Wrote:Would it look like a second sun? Can we see it? Or because of our rotation we never see it? or is it just too far away? Is it hidden behind our sun? Would the second coming of the christ conciousness be that we would see it as a second sun?
I'm pretty sure we can see it (REAL pretty sure, I'm trying NOT to insult you)...do a bit of research...others here are way too lazy to say this.
^^^ That was me.
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 119435 09-12-2012 07:39 AM
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RE: if we could see the center of our galaxy...
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 8757 09-12-2012 08:39 AM
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RE: if we could see the center of our galaxy...
LoP Guest Wrote:The question is, which galaxy ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df4FE7Lg7...sults_main
Very astute, yep you are correct, the OP mean the other "OUR" galaxy. Not the Milky Way..."OUR" other one...what is the name of that one again we are spinning around?
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Caseman1967 Registered User User ID: 119719 09-12-2012 08:49 AM
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RE: if we could see the center of our galaxy...
I'm curious as to how someone came up with the shape of our galaxy. Wouldn't it require a perspective from outside our galaxy?? Seriously, if you know, tell me....cuz I'm just not wrappin my brain around the how.
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Palafox Registered User User ID: 67232 09-12-2012 09:07 AM
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RE: if we could see the center of our galaxy...
Im currently taking an astronomy class so I can help answer a few of the questions. The earth is 26,000 light years from the center of the galaxy. At the center of our galaxy is believed to be a super-massive black hole. It emits massive amounts of energy from "consuming" stars, but emits little light, so it wouldn't be likely to appear as a "second sun." The light that does come from the center of our galaxy is reflecting off the high density of dust and other material that is in that area. This dust is quite literally cloaking the center so we cannot actually see it. On very dark nights, if you have good vision, you may be able to see the bulge of the center of the galaxy but not the center itself.
On December 21 this year, we (and our sun, this is going to get interesting!) will be aligned to receive that massive amount of energy emitted from the center of the galaxy.
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Palafox Registered User User ID: 67232 09-12-2012 09:12 AM
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RE: if we could see the center of our galaxy...
Caseman1967 Wrote:I'm curious as to how someone came up with the shape of our galaxy. Wouldn't it require a perspective from outside our galaxy?? Seriously, if you know, tell me....cuz I'm just not wrappin my brain around the how.
By observing the stars, we see a band in the night sky, which shows many stars "horizontally" and very few "above or below us." I use quotations because this orientation in in relation to the center of our galaxy. http://www.nuitsacrees.fr/DP/CV_apod2000.jpg
We also know that the centripetal force of stars in our galaxy spinning around the super-massive black hole in the middle flattens it out like a pancake.
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Palafox Registered User User ID: 67232 09-12-2012 09:12 AM
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RE: if we could see the center of our galaxy...
As above... so below.
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(This post was last modified: 09-12-2012 09:13 AM by Palafox.)
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247mph nli lop guest User ID: 8757 09-12-2012 09:30 AM
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RE: if we could see the center of our galaxy...
Palafox Wrote:Im currently taking an astronomy class so I can help answer a few of the questions. The earth is 26,000 light years from the center of the galaxy. At the center of our galaxy is believed to be a super-massive black hole. It emits massive amounts of energy from "consuming" stars, but emits little light, so it wouldn't be likely to appear as a "second sun." The light that does come from the center of our galaxy is reflecting off the high density of dust and other material that is in that area. This dust is quite literally cloaking the center so we cannot actually see it. On very dark nights, if you have good vision, you may be able to see the bulge of the center of the galaxy but not the center itself.
On December 21 this year, we (and our sun, this is going to get interesting!) will be aligned to receive that massive amount of energy emitted from the center of the galaxy.
I appreciate students, BUT (and not trying to be a "smarty-pants" here)...you just said; and I may agree, that the center of our galaxy is a black hole. I thought we as a planet were dipping up into the linear disk equatorial basis of the galaxy, if that is so we might be more inclined to be encountering debris perhaps gravitational forces, etc...not the energy of the "center of the galaxy" as the black hole is aimed "North-South" in expulsion force/matter. Is is sideways and facing us in an East-West straight on configuration/as in on a linear plane with the galaxy? I don't know, I've never really studied it...I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night though, lol. I'm serious, is the black hole's upper and lower bases aimed sideways in our plane/direction, or top to bottom away from this spiral?
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Palafox Registered User User ID: 67232 09-12-2012 10:06 AM
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RE: if we could see the center of our galaxy...
247mph nli Wrote:Palafox Wrote:Im currently taking an astronomy class so I can help answer a few of the questions. The earth is 26,000 light years from the center of the galaxy. At the center of our galaxy is believed to be a super-massive black hole. It emits massive amounts of energy from "consuming" stars, but emits little light, so it wouldn't be likely to appear as a "second sun." The light that does come from the center of our galaxy is reflecting off the high density of dust and other material that is in that area. This dust is quite literally cloaking the center so we cannot actually see it. On very dark nights, if you have good vision, you may be able to see the bulge of the center of the galaxy but not the center itself.
On December 21 this year, we (and our sun, this is going to get interesting!) will be aligned to receive that massive amount of energy emitted from the center of the galaxy.
I appreciate students, BUT (and not trying to be a "smarty-pants" here)...you just said; and I may agree, that the center of our galaxy is a black hole. I thought we as a planet were dipping up into the linear disk equatorial basis of the galaxy, if that is so we might be more inclined to be encountering debris perhaps gravitational forces, etc...not the energy of the "center of the galaxy" as the black hole is aimed "North-South" in expulsion force/matter. Is is sideways and facing us in an East-West straight on configuration/as in on a linear plane with the galaxy? I don't know, I've never really studied it...I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night though, lol. I'm serious, is the black hole's upper and lower bases aimed sideways in our plane/direction, or top to bottom away from this spiral?
I made a mistake in saying: we will be aligned to receive that massive amount of energy emitted from the center of the galaxy.
So you are partly correct. We will not be receiving the high energy gamma radiation that extends 50,000 light years "north & south" (up and down makes more sense i think) of our galactic center. We will however be aligned with the center of the galaxy, allowing us to receive a different form of energy (i have no idea so dont ask me lol). Many believe at this time we will also be entering the "Photon Belt" and receiving energy that will assist in a "conscious shift." But no one knows for sure.
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247mph nli lop guest User ID: 8757 09-12-2012 10:42 AM
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RE: if we could see the center of our galaxy...
Palafox Wrote:247mph nli Wrote:Palafox Wrote:Im currently taking an astronomy class so I can help answer a few of the questions. The earth is 26,000 light years from the center of the galaxy. At the center of our galaxy is believed to be a super-massive black hole. It emits massive amounts of energy from "consuming" stars, but emits little light, so it wouldn't be likely to appear as a "second sun." The light that does come from the center of our galaxy is reflecting off the high density of dust and other material that is in that area. This dust is quite literally cloaking the center so we cannot actually see it. On very dark nights, if you have good vision, you may be able to see the bulge of the center of the galaxy but not the center itself.
On December 21 this year, we (and our sun, this is going to get interesting!) will be aligned to receive that massive amount of energy emitted from the center of the galaxy.
I appreciate students, BUT (and not trying to be a "smarty-pants" here)...you just said; and I may agree, that the center of our galaxy is a black hole. I thought we as a planet were dipping up into the linear disk equatorial basis of the galaxy, if that is so we might be more inclined to be encountering debris perhaps gravitational forces, etc...not the energy of the "center of the galaxy" as the black hole is aimed "North-South" in expulsion force/matter. Is is sideways and facing us in an East-West straight on configuration/as in on a linear plane with the galaxy? I don't know, I've never really studied it...I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night though, lol. I'm serious, is the black hole's upper and lower bases aimed sideways in our plane/direction, or top to bottom away from this spiral?
I made a mistake in saying: we will be aligned to receive that massive amount of energy emitted from the center of the galaxy.
So you are partly correct. We will not be receiving the high energy gamma radiation that extends 50,000 light years "north & south" (up and down makes more sense i think) of our galactic center. We will however be aligned with the center of the galaxy, allowing us to receive a different form of energy (i have no idea so dont ask me lol). Many believe at this time we will also be entering the "Photon Belt" and receiving energy that will assist in a "conscious shift." But no one knows for sure.
Thanks, awesome posts on your part (again not calling you wrong at all), it's good to have fun educational threads that clue some people into 12-21-12. I agree with you for the most part, I really do. Thanks for the reply. I'm hoping I see what happens, it should be amazing.
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Aqua Registered User User ID: 107867 09-12-2012 06:15 PM
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RE: if we could see the center of our galaxy...
worth a bump...
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 67012 09-12-2012 06:21 PM
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RE: if we could see the center of our galaxy...
Thx palafox.
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 114809 09-12-2012 06:24 PM
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RE: if we could see the center of our galaxy...
I never understand why we see the milkyway as a big smear across the sky with a lot of black stuff in it and not a brighter whiter center.
Someone said it was too far away, but I cannot believe that. I think there is actually a lot of material that does not give of light that is blocking parts of the milkyway from view.
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