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**Gibbie** · **Gibbie** ^D ^D ^D whoa User ID: 49076 06-24-2012 01:47 AM **Posts: 7,187**

Powhatan Wrote:

You started this thread as an excuse to hurl insults at Christians. You inserted insults at every opportunity under the guise of making a point. If it isn't a bait thread, I'd like a mod to define bait thread for me.
A lot of spiritual belief systems are presented and discussed here. Do you refer to all of them as fruity? Should everyone here accept your determination as to what constitutes a "fruity" belief system?
Have you always been this full of yourself?

So how many converts to your fruity religion have you made on this board in the last year with that wonderful tact of yours?

**Powhatan**

freebyrd Wrote:

Gibbie Wrote:
Ever wonder why there are certain people that can never be converted to your weird belief system no matter how many insults or threats to their eternal soul you level at them? Ever wonder why it is so hard to convince certain people about certain things.. Gosh could it be they've spent considerable time thinking about these things and have a strong position, right or wrong, about them?

Energy spent trying to proselytize to infidels is ultimately wasted unless their mind is in a state of change. It could be they are in a personal crisis and they need some new comforting piece of information they didn't have or accept before. If you are a furniture salesmen do you think you will have much of an audience selling life insurance to someone that just wants a chair? You do not pick the time to convert the infidel the infidel does.

You will not be winning souls for insert your deity here if you continually present your faith as a gathering of thin skinned jackasses complaining that every argument against your fruity belief system constitutes persecution. Grow up already! Be a man or woman and accept that if people are laughing at you then you should not talk so much about your funny beliefs.

A church is like a business. It is the right place and offers the right times for conversion services. The internet is not church nor will it ever be.

I'm not saying it is wrong to talk about religion but what are you trying to accomplish honestly by talking about it?

That is all.
this is where most of the successes of religious conversion come from,
as i pointed out last night, you must be humbled and your spirit broken and have run out of all answers within, then you look without

THATS where they get you,
it's like mk ultra mind control

A lot of broken people who've run out of answers join churches AFTER their prayer to God was answered. That's what you don't understand. If God didn't exist, prayer would be futile, and Christianity would have died like so many other religions. The fact is that prayer produces results, and that is what draws people who used to be skeptics. Brain washing alone can't do it.
I know rational intelligent people who experienced this firsthand who never went to church except for the occasional wedding. I understand that you don't want that to be true, but it is. People really do experience things that can't be reconciled with the atheist paradigm.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 104013 06-24-2012 02:08 AM

The biggest misconception is that "Forgiveness" was NOT instituted prior to the moment the universe came into play.
That "Forgiveness" required a sacrifice.
The "Sacrifice" occurred in truth,on account of truth,for many people love lies,just look on how the demand to be governed by an outside source, this is the WORST way to run a world let alone live as an individual.

All that was stated by this person was all truth.
The result has been known now for quite a long time.
The means and motives on the other hand have been obscured and twisted to profit the few at the cost of everyone.
Very capitalistic,or is it predatory?
Same diff.

Death is but rouse I know my Immortality has always existed, and so has yours.
Do you want it peaceful or warlike?
It is sad that lies have ruled us for so long that the truth "stinks"
Like Governments are the most vile and destructive construct man has ever devised yet the majority THINK they absolutely NEED it ><.
O well soon enough I will be immune to all there bullets.
Already can see through all the bullshavik.

**Powhatan**

Gibbie Wrote:

Powhatan Wrote:
You started this thread as an excuse to hurl insults at Christians. You inserted insults at every opportunity under the guise of making a point. If it isn't a bait thread, I'd like a mod to define bait thread for me.
A lot of spiritual belief systems are presented and discussed here. Do you refer to all of them as fruity? Should everyone here accept your determination as to what constitutes a "fruity" belief system?
Have you always been this full of yourself?

So how many converts to your fruity religion have you made on this board in the last year with that wonderful tact of yours?

I'm not interested in making converts. I enjoy pointing out hypocrisy and faulty logic.

**Gibbie** · **Gibbie** ^D ^D ^D whoa User ID: 49076 06-24-2012 02:17 AM **Posts: 7,187**

Powhatan Wrote:

Gibbie Wrote:
Powhatan Wrote:
You started this thread as an excuse to hurl insults at Christians. You inserted insults at every opportunity under the guise of making a point. If it isn't a bait thread, I'd like a mod to define bait thread for me.
A lot of spiritual belief systems are presented and discussed here. Do you refer to all of them as fruity? Should everyone here accept your determination as to what constitutes a "fruity" belief system?
Have you always been this full of yourself?

So how many converts to your fruity religion have you made on this board in the last year with that wonderful tact of yours?
I'm not interested in making converts. I enjoy pointing out hypocrisy and faulty logic.

I'm not interested in you.

**Powhatan**

Ask me if I give a f*ck.

**Gibbie** · **Gibbie** ^D ^D ^D whoa User ID: 49076 06-24-2012 02:22 AM **Posts: 7,187**

Powhatan Wrote:

Ask me if I give a f*ck.

I don't care if you do give a f*ck

**freebyrd**

Powhatan Wrote:

freebyrd Wrote:
Gibbie Wrote:
Ever wonder why there are certain people that can never be converted to your weird belief system no matter how many insults or threats to their eternal soul you level at them? Ever wonder why it is so hard to convince certain people about certain things.. Gosh could it be they've spent considerable time thinking about these things and have a strong position, right or wrong, about them?

Energy spent trying to proselytize to infidels is ultimately wasted unless their mind is in a state of change. It could be they are in a personal crisis and they need some new comforting piece of information they didn't have or accept before. If you are a furniture salesmen do you think you will have much of an audience selling life insurance to someone that just wants a chair? You do not pick the time to convert the infidel the infidel does.

You will not be winning souls for insert your deity here if you continually present your faith as a gathering of thin skinned jackasses complaining that every argument against your fruity belief system constitutes persecution. Grow up already! Be a man or woman and accept that if people are laughing at you then you should not talk so much about your funny beliefs.

A church is like a business. It is the right place and offers the right times for conversion services. The internet is not church nor will it ever be.

I'm not saying it is wrong to talk about religion but what are you trying to accomplish honestly by talking about it?

That is all.
this is where most of the successes of religious conversion come from,
as i pointed out last night, you must be humbled and your spirit broken and have run out of all answers within, then you look without

THATS where they get you,
it's like mk ultra mind control
A lot of broken people who've run out of answers join churches AFTER their prayer to God was answered. That's what you don't understand. If God didn't exist, prayer would be futile, and Christianity would have died like so many other religions. The fact is that prayer produces results, and that is what draws people who used to be skeptics. Brain washing alone can't do it.
I know rational intelligent people who experienced this firsthand who never went to church except for the occasional wedding. I understand that you don't want that to be true, but it is. People really do experience things that can't be reconciled with the atheist paradigm.

bait thread?!
god i hear that shit so much! the term is convoluted and has no real meaning anymore
but more to the point christianity killed many religions and stole so many pagan worshiping holidays and symbols that most worshipers no exactly jack squat about christmas being a pagan holiday, easter being a pagan fertility holiday
it's a joke, and your time and your religion is running out, hopefully you don't take the rest of us down with you in your armageddon fantasy

? lop guest User ID: 103070 06-24-2012 02:28 AM

I can see discussing religions and their conspiracy aspect.

But I've never heard religion discussed (in real life) at work, a party or in public with a stranger. It just isn't socially acceptable.

Too many people of different religions. To start blasting about your religion is very inconsiderate and in bad taste. They don't care. So they are treated accordingly.

So - when I see them pushing their agenda at a conspiracy forum it is crazy. They pick and choose which parts of their religion to live by and ignore the rest -- while still claiming they are __________ians.

Now, I have had religious folk knock on my door. A huge invasion of my privacy IMHO.

**Gibbie** · **Gibbie** ^D ^D ^D whoa User ID: 49076 06-24-2012 02:29 AM **Posts: 7,187**

freebyrd Wrote:

Powhatan Wrote:
freebyrd Wrote:
this is where most of the successes of religious conversion come from,
as i pointed out last night, you must be humbled and your spirit broken and have run out of all answers within, then you look without

THATS where they get you,
it's like mk ultra mind control
A lot of broken people who've run out of answers join churches AFTER their prayer to God was answered. That's what you don't understand. If God didn't exist, prayer would be futile, and Christianity would have died like so many other religions. The fact is that prayer produces results, and that is what draws people who used to be skeptics. Brain washing alone can't do it.
I know rational intelligent people who experienced this firsthand who never went to church except for the occasional wedding. I understand that you don't want that to be true, but it is. People really do experience things that can't be reconciled with the atheist paradigm.

bait thread?!
god i hear that shit so much! the term is convoluted and has no real meaning anymore
but more to the point christianity killed many religions and stole so many pagan worshiping holidays and symbols that most worshipers no exactly jack squat about christmas being a pagan holiday, easter being a pagan fertility holiday
it's a joke, and your time and your religion is running out, hopefully you don't take the rest of us down with you in your armageddon fantasy

Amen to that!

**Powhatan**

Gibbie Wrote:

Powhatan Wrote:
Ask me if I give a f*ck.

I don't care if you do give a f*ck

As long as you continue to present yourself as the self appointed arbiter of what is worth discussing, and what isn't, I'll be there.

**Gibbie** · **Gibbie** ^D ^D ^D whoa User ID: 49076 06-24-2012 02:33 AM **Posts: 7,187**

Powhatan Wrote:

Gibbie Wrote:
Powhatan Wrote:
Ask me if I give a f*ck.

I don't care if you do give a f*ck
As long as you continue to present yourself as the self appointed arbiter of what is worth discussing, and what isn't, I'll be there.

Ok batman.

**Powhatan**

Gibbie Wrote:

Powhatan Wrote:
Gibbie Wrote:
I don't care if you do give a f*ck
As long as you continue to present yourself as the self appointed arbiter of what is worth discussing, and what isn't, I'll be there.

Ok batman.

A lot more people read threads than post on them. You've pretty much proven that insults pass for debating in your book. I'm sure everyone reading this is impressed with your ability to make a point.

**leti** lop guest User ID: 55367 06-24-2012 03:19 AM

Gibbie Wrote:

I'm not saying it is wrong to talk about religion but what are you trying to accomplish honestly by talking about it?

you're the one that's talking about it
.

**HardTruth**

Gibbie Wrote:

Ever wonder why there are certain people that can never be converted to your weird belief system no matter how many insults or threats to their eternal soul you level at them? Ever wonder why it is so hard to convince certain people about certain things.. Gosh could it be they've spent considerable time thinking about these things and have a strong position, right or wrong, about them?

Energy spent trying to proselytize to infidels is ultimately wasted unless their mind is in a state of change. It could be they are in a personal crisis and they need some new comforting piece of information they didn't have or accept before. If you are a furniture salesmen do you think you will have much of an audience selling life insurance to someone that just wants a chair? You do not pick the time to convert the infidel the infidel does.

You will not be winning souls for insert your deity here if you continually present your faith as a gathering of thin skinned jackasses complaining that every argument against your fruity belief system constitutes persecution. Grow up already! Be a man or woman and accept that if people are laughing at you then you should not talk so much about your funny beliefs.

A church is like a business. It is the right place and offers the right times for conversion services. The internet is not church nor will it ever be.

I'm not saying it is wrong to talk about religion but what are you trying to accomplish honestly by talking about it?

That is all.

.