Old Whatshisname  Wrote:

king of pariahs  Wrote:

Read about this on the net and I live in Phoenix. I had to go check it out. These are the google earth coordinates 34 53 06.20n 111 59 22 68w. This is what I found. The lake shown on GE is supposed to be the entry point of the tunnel boring machine http://www.unexplainable.net/artman/publ...825.shtml. This place is 10 miles out into the wilderness west of Sedona which is famous for UFOs, Vortices, UAP, dimensional portals and numerous other paranormal occurances.
There are 13 flags in the photo.

Do you have any evidence at all that what you show is anything more than just a meditation center?

And are you aware that those 'boring machines' are commercial ones, bought by the US Air Force in the 1970s as part of the on-again, off-again M-X Missile emplacement strategy?

And if you're serious about actually investigating that Sedona area, give me a call; I'll be happy to come with you, complete with cameras, and will even provide the 4WD vehicle to take us there.

I only live an hour away from you, and you're right on my way to Sedona!
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http://www.selectsmart.com/ilchilee.html Things sometimes are not as they appear. The gentleman that runs this place has other "meditation centers" similar to this one in other places around the world. Also, the last I read he is wanted by the Yavapai County Sheriff's Office for questioning in a death at the "meditation center" on July 4, 2003. There is also the issue of a $85,000,000 wrongful death lawsuit against Ilchi Lee which eventually was dismissed in 2008. If you want more suspicious facts I have some. This place sounds like some type of a dark,if not completely black, psyops school/facility.

Nothing spells Meditation Ranch Like a huge Iron gate with 13 f*cking obnoxious flags.
WTF
Why would the Air Force need a Horizontal Drilling machine?
Missile Silos are Vertical.

Things sometimes are not as they appear. The gentleman that runs this place has other "meditation centers" similar to this one in other places around the world. Also, the last I read he is wanted by the Yavapai County Sheriff's Office for questioning in a death at the "meditation center" on July 4, 2003. There is also the issue of a $85,000,000 wrongful death lawsuit against Ilchi Lee which eventually was dismissed in 2008. If you want more suspicious facts I have some. This place sounds like some type of a dark,if not completely black, psyops school/facility.

king of pariahs  Wrote:

Things sometimes are not as they appear. The gentleman that runs this place has other "meditation centers" similar to this one in other places around the world. Also, the last I read he is wanted by the Yavapai County Sheriff's Office for questioning in a death at the "meditation center" on July 4, 2003. There is also the issue of a $85,000,000 wrongful death lawsuit against Ilchi Lee which eventually was dismissed in 2008. If you want more suspicious facts I have some. This place sounds like some type of a dark,if not completely black, psyops school/facility.

I would think that, if it really were a classified government facility, you wouldn't see any wrongful death suits or similar; simply because Uncle Pig would hush them up.

And if the location were in Sedona (as opposed to West Sedona, which is in Yavapai County), the investigators would be from the Coconino County Sheriff's office.

But there are two bottom line points here:

1. You don't know enough to come up with a valid conclusion;
2. Neither do I.

My offer stands; let's go up there and poke around some weekend and find out!

Besides myself, has anyone else here ever been inside one of these underground cities?

Anonymous Coward  Wrote:

Besides myself, has anyone else here ever been inside one of these underground cities?

Do you mean the ones in Antarctica with the old Nazi Stormtroopers or the ones in New Mexico with the Little Purple Spaceship Guys From Arcturus?

Anonymous Coward  Wrote:

Nothing spells Meditation Ranch Like a huge Iron gate with 13 f*cking obnoxious flags.
WTF
Why would the Air Force need a Horizontal Drilling machine?
Missile Silos are Vertical.

True, but not the tunnels interconnecting them. During the various approaches that were actually tried during the Carter and Reagan years (and then cut back by Congressional squeezing of the budget), they had what was called the 'horizontal racetrack' approach. Here is a paragraph from the Report of Secretary of Defense Harold Brown to the Congress on the FY 1981 Budget, FY 1982 Authorization Request and FY 1981- 1985 Defense Programs, January 29, 1980, available from your friend Mr. Google, at

[url=http://www.policyarchive.org/handle/10207/bitstreams/8919.pdf][/url]

"... The other subterranean interconnected launch point option was the rock tunnel. This concept called for the digging of tunnels with launch portals through hard rock (granite) deep below the ground's surface. The Air Force had alraady [sic] become acquainted with some of the technological problems involved in this task during its HARD ROCK program for deep silo basing of part of the MINUTEMAN I11 missile force. Accordingly, this basing concept was eventually rejected because of both its technological risk and cost."

Not meaning to urinate in your breakfast-food, Anonymous Coward 6178, but if you're actually interested in a subject, you can always research it yourself instead of expecting others to do it for you.

Anonymous Coward  Wrote:

Besides myself, has anyone else here ever been inside one of these underground cities?

Do you mean the ones in Antarctica with the old Nazi Stormtroopers or the ones in New Mexico with the Little Purple Spaceship Guys From Arcturus?