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**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 108013 09-13-2012 08:01 AM

LoP Guest Wrote:

While some researchers argue that grain didn't become a staple until fairly recently, 10 thousand years or so, other research suggests humans have been eating grasses for 70 thousad years or longer according to an article at blog.scientificamerican.com on research. Published in Science. I can't post the link because I'm on a phone. Search history of grain in human diet

nwo disinfo, nwo wants u to eat grains so u stay fat, stupid, weak and sick like most americans

**TheSt0rm**

Devout Agnostic Wrote:

healthnut Wrote:
everyones always like popcorn is a health food, im guessing now that i know grains are bad that popcorn is bad for you even organic popcorn, more lies, kinda like 'the sun is bad for you' gag they pull on the masses

Corn is the one grain that I think might be suitable for the human digestive system (in much smaller amounts than we currently eat). It has no close relatives, and the indians claim that Maize was a gift from the sky brothers.

Actually the major grains also came from the Gods. The annunaki of course.

We also used to have a second stomach.

**TheSt0rm** · (This post was last modified: 09-13-2012 08:05 AM by TheSt0rm.)

LoP Guest Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
While some researchers argue that grain didn't become a staple until fairly recently, 10 thousand years or so, other research suggests humans have been eating grasses for 70 thousad years or longer according to an article at blog.scientificamerican.com on research. Published in Science. I can't post the link because I'm on a phone. Search history of grain in human diet

nwo disinfo, nwo wants u to eat grains so u stay fat, stupid, weak and sick like most americans

It's not disinfo.

Sure hybrid grains are bad, excess is bad, and most people are not healthy enough or have a lifestyle to handle grains. You pretty much need to be working in a plantation to allow consumption of grains.
Again, also the ancient grains in particular, and raw, preferably sprouted.

**TheSt0rm** · (This post was last modified: 09-13-2012 08:21 AM by TheSt0rm.)

I think the main roblems with grain intolerance is that:

1. they're made from hybrids. The more hybridized a crop is the more it has those antinutrients.

2. Unsprouted or definitely, not fresh and raw. Unsprouted grains do have a lot of phytic acid and enzyme inhibitors. Sprouting them increases phytase esp. in wheat LIKE CRAZY. And deactivates enzyme inhibitors.

3. The presence of candida overgrowth, or intestinal blockages.

4. As with ANY high carb food, if you don't have a healthy, well balanced diet, or your body is nutrient depleted it can cause problems. Ie, bone calcium depletion, sensitivity, etc.

5. Acidity, linked with allergic symptoms

6. low diet in omega 3s. Omega 3s are anti=inflammatory, or rather provides the basis for the body keeping it anti-inflammatory. Too much omega 6s (present in grains) is inflammatory itself and does not give the body a source of anti-inflammatory precursor.

7. Requires a relatively active lifestyle to maintain. Ie those working on the plantation, grains are ok. Runners in mexico eating a diet mainly of corn, it's ok.

**Devout Agnostic**

TheSt0rm Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
LoP Guest Wrote:
While some researchers argue that grain didn't become a staple until fairly recently, 10 thousand years or so, other research suggests humans have been eating grasses for 70 thousad years or longer according to an article at blog.scientificamerican.com on research. Published in Science. I can't post the link because I'm on a phone. Search history of grain in human diet

nwo disinfo, nwo wants u to eat grains so u stay fat, stupid, weak and sick like most americans

It's not disinfo.

Sure hybrid grains are bad, excess is bad, and most people are not healthy enough or have a lifestyle to handle grains. You pretty much need to be working in a plantation to allow consumption of grains.
Again, also the ancient grains in particular, and raw, preferably sprouted.

I would wager that, like most people, the OP doesn't work on a plantation. So therefore the presumption that OP's thesis is based upon still appears sound.

**Devout Agnostic**

TheSt0rm Wrote:

I think the main roblems with grain intolerance is that:

1. they're made from hybrids. The more hybridized a crop is the more it has those antinutrients.

2. Unsprouted or definitely, not fresh and raw. Unsprouted grains do have a lot of phytic acid and enzyme inhibitors. Sprouting them increases phytase esp. in wheat LIKE CRAZY. And deactivates enzyme inhibitors.

3. The presence of candida overgrowth, or intestinal blockages.

4. As with ANY high carb food, if you don't have a healthy, well balanced diet, or your body is nutrient depleted it can cause problems. Ie, bone calcium depletion, sensitivity, etc.

5. Acidity, linked with allergic symptoms

6. low diet in omega 3s. Omega 3s are anti=inflammatory, or rather provides the basis for the body keeping it anti-inflammatory. Too much omega 6s (present in grains) is inflammatory itself and does not give the body a source of anti-inflammatory precursor.

yikes. never seen it laid out like that. seems to me, if we can live without them, that would probably be the best course of action.

**TheSt0rm**

There;s a tribe in Mexico that runs all day. They run on sandals. They eat corn ALL DAY EVERYDAY. That's their main thing. THey even drink corn beer.

**TheSt0rm**

Devout Agnostic Wrote:

TheSt0rm Wrote:
I think the main roblems with grain intolerance is that:

1. they're made from hybrids. The more hybridized a crop is the more it has those antinutrients.

2. Unsprouted or definitely, not fresh and raw. Unsprouted grains do have a lot of phytic acid and enzyme inhibitors. Sprouting them increases phytase esp. in wheat LIKE CRAZY. And deactivates enzyme inhibitors.

3. The presence of candida overgrowth, or intestinal blockages.

4. As with ANY high carb food, if you don't have a healthy, well balanced diet, or your body is nutrient depleted it can cause problems. Ie, bone calcium depletion, sensitivity, etc.

5. Acidity, linked with allergic symptoms

6. low diet in omega 3s. Omega 3s are anti=inflammatory, or rather provides the basis for the body keeping it anti-inflammatory. Too much omega 6s (present in grains) is inflammatory itself and does not give the body a source of anti-inflammatory precursor.

yikes. never seen it laid out like that. seems to me, if we can live without them, that would probably be the best course of action.

Forgot to add, that you need an active lifestyle to burn off all those carbs.

~~Jackinthebox~~

healthnut Wrote:

everyones always like popcorn is a health food, im guessing now that i know grains are bad that popcorn is bad for you even organic popcorn, more lies, kinda like 'the sun is bad for you' gag they pull on the masses

Actually popcorn is not good for you. Never has been. It's fine in small doses, but obviously worse these days now that it is GM. If we were talking all natural like 30 or 40 years ago, much better for you, but still not as healthy as it was pumped as for quite some time in order to monetize the crop more thoroughly.

Even fresh corn is not great for you. But as with most things, balance is key, not eliminating or exclusively living on any one thing. That is of course, except for the zombified crap.

**Devout Agnostic**

Jackinthebox Wrote:

Actually popcorn is not good for you. Never has been. It's fine in small doses, but obviously worse these days now that it is GM. If we were talking all natural like 30 or 40 years ago, much better for you, but still not as healthy as it was pumped as for quite some time in order to monetize the crop more thoroughly.

Even fresh corn is not great for you. But as with most things, balance is key, not eliminating or exclusively living on any one thing. That is of course, except for the zombified crap.

Katherine Albrecht had a GMO expert-guy on a while back, he said that Popping Corn hasn't been genetically modified yet. Probably because the demand is more or less stable.

**Faith**

If you want some popcorn every now and again, eat it - just pop it yourself with an air popper or pan (not that microwave crap). Most people would be better off it they cut wheat out of their diet and ate corn more modestly. As a whole I don't think we eat enough of the other grains to really bother us (barley, rye, buckwheat, etc.). As other posters have said, it's a moderation thing.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 74163 09-13-2012 09:33 AM

http://www.naturalnews.com/037170_GM_whe...e_GMO.html

Genetically engineered wheat contains an enzyme suppressor that, when consumed by humans, could cause permanent liver failure (and death). That's the warning issued today by molecular biologist Jack Heinemann of the University of Canterbury in Australia.

Heinemann has published an eye-opening report that details this warning and calls for rigorous scientific testing on animals before this crop is ever consumed by humans. The enzyme suppressor in the wheat, he says, might also attack a human enzyme that produces glycogen. Consumers who eat genetically modified wheat would end up contaminating their bodies with this enzyme-destroying wheat, causing their own livers to be unable to produce glycogen, a hormone molecule that helps the body regulate blood sugar metabolism. This, in turn, would lead to liver failure.

**Blue Waffle**

TheSt0rm Wrote:

TheSt0rm Wrote:
LoP Guest Wrote:
interesting info, but im still not convinced grains or popcorn is good for you.

we went millions of years not eating grain then one day just brought it into our diet ?

doesnt seem nature.

meat, nuts wild edibles and veggies = the best diet hippy

yea I agree. Grains, in excess is bad. but I think if one is healthy one can have some sprouted raw essense bread from ancient grains.

Also, a lot of your paleo eaters forget entirely about the technology of farming, gardening and sprouting. Like, it was actually farming which gave us the huge advantage to become more civil as a society and have an abundance of food.

Looking at world affairs, are we *really* more civil?

**Blue Waffle**

TheSt0rm Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
While some researchers argue that grain didn't become a staple until fairly recently, 10 thousand years or so, other research suggests humans have been eating grasses for 70 thousad years or longer according to an article at blog.scientificamerican.com on research. Published in Science. I can't post the link because I'm on a phone. Search history of grain in human diet

Exactly. Yea grasses may be it.

I recently got a wheatgrass juicer and I was researching on the internet about it. It turns out wheatgrass was used by the Ancient Egyptians. I dont know if they used the juice but damn they knew the health benefits of grass.

How the hell do you consume it anyways if you dont have a juicer?

Chew, chew, chew...
Then spit out the stuff that's left once the flavor's gone.
Kinda like chewing gum...

**-Vod-**

Disquiet Wrote:

http://blog.aarp.org/2012/08/09/hold-the...s-disease/
"Long suspected as a cause of lung damage, researchers are now linking butter flavoring to Alzheimer’s disease."

Popcorn = Evil

It's so easy to make popcorn and use real butter, why people are buying these kind of things ?