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**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 113877 08-16-2012 06:51 AM

sia Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
sia Wrote:
beginning and end do not denote a cycle, they represent a beginning and an end.
sound cyclical to me.
After the end of this world thats it huh?
nope
the cycle will repeat.

no one knows, either way if it is a cycle or a beginning and end it is not for me to know. neither do you know.

i know what the bible says and what the voices tell me.
I know that a GOD of LOVE would not simply end this beautiful creation that is our universe.....
I know that what the bible refers to as the "end" is not the end.
Just the end of the beginning.

**Tyche Unleashed**

sea Wrote:

This is how nature sounds like, nature which god created.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOBzSxFK8...ure=relmfu

Thank you sea. I believe you're right.

**sia**

LoP Guest Wrote:

sia Wrote:
LoP Guest Wrote:
sound cyclical to me.
After the end of this world thats it huh?
nope
the cycle will repeat.

no one knows, either way if it is a cycle or a beginning and end it is not for me to know. neither do you know.
i know what the bible says and what the voices tell me.
I know that a GOD of LOVE would not simply end this beautiful creation that is our universe.....
I know that what the bible refers to as the "end" is not the end.
Just the end of the beginning.

the bible says there will be a new heaven and earth, the quran teaches that god is a god of the worlds not just earth, the late rabbinic material teaches god is the master of the universe, so im not really seeing your point.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 113877 08-16-2012 06:58 AM

sia Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
sia Wrote:
no one knows, either way if it is a cycle or a beginning and end it is not for me to know. neither do you know.
i know what the bible says and what the voices tell me.
I know that a GOD of LOVE would not simply end this beautiful creation that is our universe.....
I know that what the bible refers to as the "end" is not the end.
Just the end of the beginning.

the bible says there will be a new heaven and earth, the quran teaches that god is a god of the worlds not just earth, the late rabbinic material teaches god is the master of the universe, so im not really seeing your point.

my point is according to the bible in the beginning (alpha) "GOD" created the heavens and the earth.
"the earth was WITHOUT FORM"
this means it was NOT round....it was debris.
The term "god" in this reference is a planet.

Then in revelation...it says there will be no more sun and the "light will come from god himself"....once again a reference to a planet.(omega)
In order for the sun to be gone...either 1 of 2 things must happen....
either supernova(which would kill us)
or the earth will change positions.
(new heavens new earth)
alpha and omega is a planetary cycle.
Our earth will be pulled into a different orbit and the light will come from the planet nibiru.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 113877 08-16-2012 07:04 AM

LoP Guest Wrote:

sia Wrote:
LoP Guest Wrote:
i know what the bible says and what the voices tell me.
I know that a GOD of LOVE would not simply end this beautiful creation that is our universe.....
I know that what the bible refers to as the "end" is not the end.
Just the end of the beginning.

the bible says there will be a new heaven and earth, the quran teaches that god is a god of the worlds not just earth, the late rabbinic material teaches god is the master of the universe, so im not really seeing your point.
my point is according to the bible in the beginning (alpha) "GOD" created the heavens and the earth.
"the earth was WITHOUT FORM"
this means it was NOT round....it was debris.
The term "god" in this reference is a planet.

Then in revelation...it says there will be no more sun and the "light will come from god himself"....once again a reference to a planet.(omega)
In order for the sun to be gone...either 1 of 2 things must happen....
either supernova(which would kill us)
or the earth will change positions.
(new heavens new earth)
alpha and omega is a planetary cycle.
Our earth will be pulled into a different orbit and the light will come from the planet nibiru.

genesis chapter 1 is a description of nibiru destroying the previous planet tiamat which was a water world.
space.com recently did a story about how another planet was observed splitting into two smaller ones.
http://www.space.com/15467-giant-alien-p...orlds.html

this is exactly what happened in our solar system.
Tiamat was divided into two parts...the upper hemisphere became the earth....the lower became the asteroid belt.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 113877 08-16-2012 07:56 AM

http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-Where-we...ure-of-GOD

**GUANO**

LoP Guest Wrote:

doesnt the bible refer to god as "the alpha and the omega"?
The begining and the end.

Hey this denotes a cycle......
what else works in cycles?
Planets.

Isnt every planet in our solar system named after a GOD???

GOD=PLANET

The ancients did not recognize 'planets' as we do today. they just saw some 'lights' that moved independently of the firmament (the fixed stars)... It's all symbolism/allegory/mythos that's way over you're head...

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**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 113877 08-16-2012 08:06 AM

GUANO Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
doesnt the bible refer to god as "the alpha and the omega"?
The begining and the end.

Hey this denotes a cycle......
what else works in cycles?
Planets.

Isnt every planet in our solar system named after a GOD???

GOD=PLANET

The ancients did not recognize 'planets' as we do today. they just saw some 'lights' that moved independently of the firmament (the fixed stars)... It's all symbolism/allegory/mythos that's way over you're head...

link to image: http://imgupld.lunaticoutpost.com/graphi...2C8D4E.jpg

yes they did. they had immense knowledge of the solar system and the planets therein. they knew how many...even size and COLOR.
it was plastered all over their stone tablets.
Many references to this

**GUANO**

LoP Guest Wrote:

sia Wrote:
LoP Guest Wrote:
sound cyclical to me.
After the end of this world thats it huh?
nope
the cycle will repeat.

no one knows, either way if it is a cycle or a beginning and end it is not for me to know. neither do you know.
i know what the bible says and what the voices tell me.
I know that a GOD of LOVE would not simply end this beautiful creation that is our universe.....
I know that what the bible refers to as the "end" is not the end.
Just the end of the beginning.

The Bible ends with the destruction of the entire universe along with everything we are comfortable with and feel is 'beautiful' (a dog-eat-dog world that is out to kill you)... and the new creation is something none of us could ever even imagine to understand...

3And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

**GUANO**

LoP Guest Wrote:

GUANO Wrote:
LoP Guest Wrote:
doesnt the bible refer to god as "the alpha and the omega"?
The begining and the end.

Hey this denotes a cycle......
what else works in cycles?
Planets.

Isnt every planet in our solar system named after a GOD???

GOD=PLANET

The ancients did not recognize 'planets' as we do today. they just saw some 'lights' that moved independently of the firmament (the fixed stars)... It's all symbolism/allegory/mythos that's way over you're head...

link to image: http://imgupld.lunaticoutpost.com/graphi...2C8D4E.jpg

yes they did. they had immense knowledge of the solar system and the planets therein. they knew how many...even size and COLOR.
it was plastered all over their stone tablets.
Many references to this

just because it's on a youtube video doesn't make it legit... Just because something looks a certain way to a modern human doesn't mean the ancients thought of it the same way... Stichen was a f*cking moron and his works are straight sci-fi....

**Imum coeli**

If God consciously created everything, then consciousness precedes creation and solipsism is correct.

So...

We are simply figments of Gods imagination. (Solipsism and God are both unfalsifiable)

or

Matter preceded God and God did not create anything.

**sia**

Imum coeli Wrote:

If God consciously created everything, then consciousness precedes creation and solipsism is correct.

So...

We are simply figments of Gods imagination. (Solipsism and God are both unfalsifiable)

or

Matter preceded God and God did not create anything.

what does it mean to say we are figments of gods imagination?

if someone punches me in the face, thats real enough.

**christ65** · (This post was last modified: 08-16-2012 08:58 AM by christ65.)

The LORD bless you and keep you; the LORD make His face to shine upon you and be gracious to you; the LORD lift up His countenance upon you and give you peace. ~ Numbers 6: 24-26

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**Imum coeli**

What is real, the punch in the face, or the sensation of being punched in the face and the resultant qualia?

Or does God simply imagine it, so it seems real to you, because you are merely a thought?

**GUANO** · (This post was last modified: 08-16-2012 09:01 AM by GUANO.)

Imum coeli Wrote:

If God consciously created everything, then consciousness precedes creation and solipsism is correct.

So...

We are simply figments of Gods imagination. (Solipsism and God are both unfalsifiable)

this is a great theory and even quantifiable within the bible itself... if you are not christian... then you can think about it in the hermetic terms... they are both pretty much hand-in-hand... It's the 'Matrix', it's what's being spoken of in quantum physics... It's the 'holographic universe' ideology... it's actually the oldest religion in recorded history...