Post: #1

boy o boy, what a can of worms
this is a very contravertial book, but should be read and considerd

The Unknown Life of Jesus Christ: Nicolas Notovitch ...
(wheres skippy when you need him)

http://books.google.ca/books?id=oFSF9kHM...ch&f=false

http://books.google.ca/books?id=gzitnVkm...ch&f=false

and what is this ring about..........actual british coin....queen on 1 side on the other.....
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them

http://www.centercoin.com/british_royal_...s_coin.htm

seems to be connections between monarchy and egypt and the bible.....all is not well in denmark !!!

Post: #2

Good question,,, A confusing one to answer I am not an expert


According to Matthew 1:18-25, of the Bible Mary became pregnant with Jesus while she was engaged (but still unmarried) to Joseph. After Joseph found out about the pregnancy, he wanted to break off the engagement. But then an angel came to him in a dream, told him about Jesus, and persuaded him to go through with the marriage.

Mary was still a virgin when she gave birth to Jesus, and he was her first child. But she apparently had some other children later. Evidence for this is found at Matthew 13:55-56 and Mark 6:3, which indicate that Jesus eventually had four brothers and at least two sisters. The names of his brothers are given as James, Joses, Simon, and Jude. Unfortunately, his sisters aren't named, and we don't even know how many there were.

Some Christians believe that Mary was a virgin throughout her life, and that Jesus was her only child. People who believe this argue that the brothers and sisters mentioned in the gospels must have been step-brothers and step-sisters. However, Luke 2:7 refers to Jesus as Mary's "first-born", thus implying that she had other children later. In fact, most biblical scholars believe that all of the mentioned children were sons and daughters of Mary who were born after Jesus.

Joseph was a carpenter, and he presumably taught this trade to Jesus. However, there is evidence that Joseph died prematurely. Apparently he didn't accompany Mary to the wedding at Cana, and he doesn't appear in any subsequent part of the story either. Also, according to John 19:27, after the crucifixion Mary went to live at the home of the un-named Beloved Disciple, which she probably wouldn't have done if her husband had still been alive.

When Jesus left home to begin his ministry, other members of his family appear to have disapproved. According to Mark 3:21, they said that he was "out of his mind", and some of them attempted to "take charge of him" and bring him home. Matthew 12:46-50 indicates that he refused to talk to his mother and brothers when they tracked him down and tried to see him. And John 7:5 says "even his own brothers did not believe in him."

The gospels don't say how long this rift with his family lasted. But there must have been a reconciliation at some point, because Acts 1:14 says that Mary and all four brothers later joined the Nazarenes, the original community of believers who lived in Jerusalem after Jesus departed.

According to Luke 1:36, Mary was a relative of Elizabeth, the mother of John the Baptist. Luke 1:39-56 says that Mary went to live at Elizabeth's home in Judea after she became pregnant with Jesus and stayed there for about three months. Some scholars have suggested that Mary used Elizabeth's home as a refuge while waiting for Joseph to decide whether to accept her as his wife.

The oldest brother of Jesus was named James. He became a very important leader in the early church, and is the named author of the New Testament Epistle of James. Because he was very pious, and followed the Jewish religious laws very strictly, he was called James the Just (or James the Righteous). He was condemned to death and executed in Jerusalem in 62 AD.

Another brother of Jesus, called Jude, is the named author of the New Testament Epistle of Jude.

http://www.gospel-mysteries.net/family-Jesus.html

Post: #3

if he was egyptian, does that mean his ancestors were from Atlantis?

Post: #4

Jesus was part of the tribe of Judah....

Judah. This was prophesied :-
Gen 49:10 The scepter shall not depart from Judah, nor a Lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come. And the obedience of the peoples to him.

Heb 7:14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Judah, of which tribe Moses spoke nothing concerning priesthood.

Rev 5:5 One of the elders said to me, "Don't weep. Behold, the Lion who is of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has overcome; he who opens the book and its seven seals."
Rev 5:6 I saw in the midst of the throne and of the four living creatures, and in the midst of the elders, a Lamb standing, as though it had been slain, having seven horns, and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God, sent out into all the earth.


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The Flight into Egypt by Giotto di Bondone (1304-06, Scrovegni Chapel, Padua).

The flight into Egypt is a biblical event described in the Gospel of Matthew (Matthew 2:13-23), in which Joseph fled to Egypt with his wife Mary and infant son Jesus after a visit by Magi because they learn that King Herod intends to kill the infants of that area. The episode is frequently shown in art, as the final episode of the Nativity of Jesus in art, and was a common component in cycles of the Life of the Virgin as well as the Life of Christ.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_into_Egypt



Hope this helps some....

Post: #5

I believe what is 'supposed' to be the historic Christ is a composite character based off of either a essene jewish priest or Julius Caesar or aspects of both. The story I believe is symbolic of the sun, the sun being 'creator' of our world in the physical universe.

That being said, I believe the Christ has been around since before the days of the Hindu Krishna and the Egyptian mystery schools came from the same source the Hindus came from.

The Christ is you. Enlightened or if you like the word, 'raptured.'

Post: #6

He comes from the mind of an author.

Prove me wrong.

Post: #7

LoP Guest  Wrote:

He comes from the mind of an author.

Prove me wrong.

Who is the author ? Man or God?

Post: #8

TheWatchman1701  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

He comes from the mind of an author.

Prove me wrong.

Who is the author ? Man or God?

A man, obviously. Where do you think the
so-called "words of god" came from? It was
written by mans... it's a myth.

Definition of a myth;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zV74_-qF6OI

The bible is not an history book, it's pretty obvious when you read it, no?

Post: #9

could this be true,,,,,,,,,,,,,,like i said.... can of worms......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zUqiV5eHC8

Post: #10

correct answer: no proof of his existence, so without this proof why do you bother wondering where he came from, he didn't because its a myth

but this myth is wonderful for book writers who come up with endless stories and theories

Post: #11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtiMw0-akAM

Post: #12

thecanadianactivist  Wrote:

boy o boy, what a can of worms
this is a very contravertial book, but should be read and considerd

The Unknown Life of Jesus Christ: Nicolas Notovitch ...
(wheres skippy when you need him)

http://books.google.ca/books?id=oFSF9kHM...ch&f=false

http://books.google.ca/books?id=gzitnVkm...ch&f=false

and what is this ring about..........actual british coin....queen on 1 side on the other.....
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them

http://www.centercoin.com/british_royal_...s_coin.htm

seems to be connections between monarchy and egypt and the bible.....all is not well in denmark !!!

Read this book. Simple read really, but mind-blowing and highly plausible...

http://www.curledup.com/jesusint.htm

With the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls, new and exciting theories about the historical Jesus have arisen in the form of intriguing books such as Jesus in the House of the Pharaohs, which poses the idea that Jesus was indeed the Teacher of Righteousness referred to in the Scrolls and revered by the Essenes, a secret Jewish sect that removed itself from mainstream Jewish thought and tradition. Author Ahmed Osman also offers up a fascinating argument for a totally new concept of when Jesus actually lived and preached – almost 1400 years before the Christian New Testament places his birth.

In fact, using solid documentation with quotes and references from the Old and New Testaments, the Scrolls, the Nag Hammadi texts, Talmudic sources and the Koran, Osman states his belief that Jesus was, in fact, the same person as Joshua of the Old Testament, and a contemporary of Moses, AND that Jesus was also known as Tutankhamun, the pharaoh ruler of Egypt between 1361 and 1352 B.C.. Now, if this all sounds confusing, you have to read the book, which details the long history of the mythology of the Christ story, and shows how this story has been told again and again throughout “biblical” history with different names attached, told long before even “biblical history,” as in the story of Isis/Osiris and other pre-Christian creation and hero stories.

What is so mind-blowing about this theory is the fact that Osman supports his ideas with actual comparisons of passages in holy texts that often counter the history of Christ that we are most familiar with, yet are there in plain sight for anyone who wants to look them up and see for themselves. The Old Testament is filled with references to a Messiah figure just like Jesus, with exact parallels of the Christ saga, yet uses either no name or different names to portray what the ancient Essenes believed to have been a person who actually had suffered, died and rose from death MANY CENTURIES BEFORE JESUS OF THE NEW TESTAMENT. I use capital letters hear because this is a fascinating and provocative concept backed up, again, by plenty of textual evidence, that most orthodox Christians and even Jews will pass off as pure heresy, yet Osman shows again and again how the Old Testament refers to the coming of the Messiah as an event that had already taken place. This is backed up by many other Talmudic sources, and Osman also gives good argument for the fact that some of the stories about Jesus that later appeared on the scene had obviously been doctored to do away with this shocking truth (he is not alone in this - other scholars believe this, as well). After all, what modern Christian would want to believe Jesus was an Egyptian pharaoh, or that the story of his life is not really the story of his life?

But for many scholars who study mythology, comparative religion and objective history, and are not tied to the orthodoxy of the Catholic Church’s demands for revisionism, this book offers a new way of seeing the older stories of the Bible and other religious texts that talk about a Jesus-like figure, born of a virgin, died and risen again, yet without the actual name Jesus attached. Perhaps indeed, as Osman states, Jesus was originally a different person operating his ministry in a much earlier time, but whose presence was utterly needed again 1400 years later, when Jerusalem struggled to be free from Roman rule, and a new Messiah would have come in quite handy in the historical scheme of things. Hmmmm…food for thought.

Osman also digs into the historical background of Moses, whom he believed was a contemporary of Jesus (Joshua) and also the life and importance of John the Baptist, a man whom many still believe to have been the real Messiah. In addition, there is plenty of food for thought about the Essenes themselves, who believed they were the true inheritors of the teachings of Christ, the Teacher of Righteousness mentioned in the Scrolls, as well as the identity of the true King David (there were actually TWO Davids!) of the historical bloodline that led directly to Jesus.

Several interesting photos of the Egyptian pharaohs and ancient art add to this ongoing mystery of the true identity of Christ. One thing is for sure, upon reading Jesus in the House of the Pharaohs, it is hard to think of Christian history in the same way again. Kudos to Osman for his courage and his great research abilities, which will no doubt open the floodgates to more debate, and perhaps, ultimately, to the complete release of the remaining Dead Sea Scrolls, now being kept under wraps, which may once and for all reveal the truth about a man we all seek to know more about.

Post: #13

Luvapottamus  Wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtiMw0-akAM

You know i've always said if they had real wine and mushroom tops instead of grape juice & crackers they'd have a helluva lot more people comming to church.

Serious shit.

Post: #14

And I knew the meaning of it all
And I knew the distance to the sun
And I knew the echo that is love
And I knew the secrets in your spires
And I knew the emptiness of youth
And I knew the solitude of heart
And I knew the murmurs of the soul
And the world is drawn into your hands
And the world is etched upon your heart
And the world so hard to understand
Is the world you can't live without
And I knew the silence of the world

Post: #15

All I know is He did what He came to do and I am thankful for that

if you want to know what a f'd up sorcery world was here before He arrived check out this thread

http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-Freemasons-Primitives

I think I might have been pretty good at that crap too but I am so thankful to Him that we are rid of it