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why did jesus lie and say john the baptisit was elijah ?
Dr. Woo

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08-16-2012 10:36 AM

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Post: #31
RE: why did jesus lie and say john the baptisit was elijah ?
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Because deception was necessary? His mission to Earth was not to be perfect because that is impossible. He was a man who wanted you to know he was just a man and could be so much more just like each and every one of us if we wanted it. You aren't making a f*cking pledge to worship him personally. You are accepting his words as truth and deciding to rise above the corrupt bullshit religions have been foisting on mankind.

Jesus was not a Christian nor did he start a religion. He was just a man that was probably smarter and wiser than most and did what was right and he probably had strong integrity and that's why he was viewed as such an example. Liberating yourself from the constraints of this world's view and elevating your spirit to godhood would probably be a popular idea and would get around. Too bad the Christians f*cked it up.
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RaXz
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08-16-2012 11:03 AM

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Post: #32
RE: why did jesus lie and say john the baptisit was elijah ?
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Jesus was not a Christian nor did he start a religion. He was just a man that was probably smarter and wiser than most and did what was right and he probably had strong integrity and that's why he was viewed as such an example. Liberating yourself from the constraints of this world's view and elevating your spirit to godhood would probably be a popular idea and would get around. Too bad the Christians f*cked it up.

Well, that's your judgement, so easy to judge especially when people tend to forget that the prophets of deceit are many while prophets of Christ are rare to be found, and sweet things are made rotten while rotten things are made sweet. One should look at Christianity the same as the first will be last, always the hypocrites that grab the most attention but that might be just reflection.

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08-16-2012 11:41 AM

 



Post: #33
RE: why did jesus lie and say john the baptisit was elijah ?
Jesus wasn't wearing his glasses.
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08-16-2012 12:08 PM

 



Post: #34
RE: why did jesus lie and say john the baptisit was elijah ?
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Adveser  Wrote:
Because deception was necessary? His mission to Earth was not to be perfect because that is impossible. He was a man who wanted you to know he was just a man and could be so much more just like each and every one of us if we wanted it. You aren't making a f*cking pledge to worship him personally. You are accepting his words as truth and deciding to rise above the corrupt bullshit religions have been foisting on mankind.

Jesus was not a Christian nor did he start a religion. He was just a man that was probably smarter and wiser than most and did what was right and he probably had strong integrity and that's why he was viewed as such an example. Liberating yourself from the constraints of this world's view and elevating your spirit to godhood would probably be a popular idea and would get around. Too bad the Christians f*cked it up.
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So we should have just stuck with Judaism (the old testament Torah only), which Jesus was a student of? But Jesus makes us all special according to Christianity, not just the chosen ones. Is that a bad thing to you?
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Dr. Woo

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08-16-2012 12:21 PM

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Post: #35
RE: why did jesus lie and say john the baptisit was elijah ?
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Dr. Woo  Wrote:
Adveser  Wrote:
Because deception was necessary? His mission to Earth was not to be perfect because that is impossible. He was a man who wanted you to know he was just a man and could be so much more just like each and every one of us if we wanted it. You aren't making a f*cking pledge to worship him personally. You are accepting his words as truth and deciding to rise above the corrupt bullshit religions have been foisting on mankind.

Jesus was not a Christian nor did he start a religion. He was just a man that was probably smarter and wiser than most and did what was right and he probably had strong integrity and that's why he was viewed as such an example. Liberating yourself from the constraints of this world's view and elevating your spirit to godhood would probably be a popular idea and would get around. Too bad the Christians f*cked it up.
Jhikpghf

So we should have just stuck with Judaism (the old testament Torah only), which Jesus was a student of? But Jesus makes us all special according to Christianity, not just the chosen ones. Is that a bad thing to you?
Me and Jesus are tight. Seriously. Most people only believe what they have been taught or read about him, they don't actually know him on a personal level.

Lets just say that Jesus has become disillusioned with the religion that claims to represent him, and who could blame him? Religion sucks!

The Kingdom of Heaven is WITHIN YOU!

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08-16-2012 12:48 PM

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Post: #36
RE: why did jesus lie and say john the baptisit was elijah ?
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Quote:10 And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come?

11 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.

12 But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them.

13 Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.
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even today at passover jewish famillies set a place for the return of elijah which will herald the return of the messiah

so i ask why did jesus lie and say john the baptist was elijah ?
So Elijah was supposed to herald the return of the Messiah, Emmanuel...

Aaaand...

John the Baptist heralded the coming of Jesus (a.k.a. - the Messiah)...

It seems that, by that reckoning, J the B is Elijah, just with a different name, just as Jesus wasn't named Emmanuel...

The Jews denied that Jesus was the Messiah, so they denied that J the B was the harbinger...

Doesn't sound like a lie, just a description of the Jews' total denial of Christ, at that time...

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Post: #37
RE: why did jesus lie and say john the baptisit was elijah ?
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Dr. Woo  Wrote:
Adveser  Wrote:
Because deception was necessary? His mission to Earth was not to be perfect because that is impossible. He was a man who wanted you to know he was just a man and could be so much more just like each and every one of us if we wanted it. You aren't making a f*cking pledge to worship him personally. You are accepting his words as truth and deciding to rise above the corrupt bullshit religions have been foisting on mankind.

Jesus was not a Christian nor did he start a religion. He was just a man that was probably smarter and wiser than most and did what was right and he probably had strong integrity and that's why he was viewed as such an example. Liberating yourself from the constraints of this world's view and elevating your spirit to godhood would probably be a popular idea and would get around. Too bad the Christians f*cked it up.
Jhikpghf

So we should have just stuck with Judaism (the old testament Torah only), which Jesus was a student of? But Jesus makes us all special according to Christianity, not just the chosen ones. Is that a bad thing to you?

No it is a good thing. Jesus was sick of those holding the knowledge of not teaching and living what they teach. The Jews taught "do as we say, not as we do" in OT into NT times. Corruption was everywhere, Jesus turning over the money changers tables was because they were using "usury" on the poor people. Need to make a $2 purchase for a sacrificial dove or pigeon, sorry today it is $2 + $.50 interest for the money changer. Same is happening today.... Rome fell in a similar way. Corruption and greed Tissue but be of good cheer, the Lord will over turn the tables again.

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